2 spaces or 1 space after period?

BvillePoker

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I was reviewing and correcting an essay that my daughter was writing for school and she informed me that her teacher was instructing her to only put 1 space after a period before the begining of a new sentence. Which of course led to a long discussion about the subject and me telling my daughter to use 2 spaces and if her teacher counts her off for it I would set her teacher straight. The crux of the teacher's reasoning seemed to be that two spaces after the period is a holdover from the typewriter era and was only used because all letters on a type writer were the same width and the 2 spaces made it more readable. Her teacher seemed to think it was not necessary in today's digital world because characters do not all take the same amount of space and they are not needed for readability any more. Your thoughts? Am I an idiot for insisting that my daughter use 2 spaces no matter what her teacher instructs?
 

Air_Thurman

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I only use one space and I think that is what I was taught in JB school (but it has been almost a decade). Not sure that is a battle I would want to fight with a teacher.
 

ThorOdinson13

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I was reviewing and correcting an essay that my daughter was writing for school and she informed me that her teacher was instructing her to only put 1 space after a period before the begining of a new sentence. Which of course led to a long discussion about the subject and me telling my daughter to use 2 spaces and if her teacher counts her off for it I would set her teacher straight. The crux of the teacher's reasoning seemed to be that two spaces after the period is a holdover from the typewriter era and was only used because all letters on a type writer were the same width and the 2 spaces made it more readable. Her teacher seemed to think it was not necessary in today's digital world because characters do not all take the same amount of space and they are not needed for readability any more. Your thoughts? Am I an idiot for insisting that my daughter use 2 spaces no matter what her teacher instructs?

I hate to break it to you but 1 space is the new standard. If your daughter uses 2 spaces in high school or college she will likely get gigged for it. I learned this was a new standard when I went back to college after the military. I've also realized that when you enter the workforce some organizations have held on to the 2 spaces while others have moved on and implemented the 1 space. Just depends on where you work.
 

PDT816

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Your child's teacher is correct, but it still blows goats for anyone over 40.

I never heard of the rule until I went to check out why my phone was spazzing out with two periods every time I hit the spacebar twice.
 

Bitter Creek

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I was reviewing and correcting an essay that my daughter was writing for school and she informed me that her teacher was instructing her to only put 1 space after a period before the begining of a new sentence. Which of course led to a long discussion about the subject and me telling my daughter to use 2 spaces and if her teacher counts her off for it I would set her teacher straight. The crux of the teacher's reasoning seemed to be that two spaces after the period is a holdover from the typewriter era and was only used because all letters on a type writer were the same width and the 2 spaces made it more readable. Her teacher seemed to think it was not necessary in today's digital world because characters do not all take the same amount of space and they are not needed for readability any more. Your thoughts? Am I an idiot for insisting that my daughter use 2 spaces no matter what her teacher instructs?
 

Bitter Creek

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I still use two spaces. That way people can know that I am old without having to embarass me with the question of my age.
 

Cordellhall83

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Look, it was two spaces in 1975!!! Get up to speed. It's two freak'in spaces. I swear youngsters are lazy...one space instead of two......
 
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EvilPOKES

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I am only 29 and will always use 2 spaces after a period. That's how I was originally taught and I ain't changing now.
 
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Poke_4_Life

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Two. The rest of you losers can go to hell. Have to deal with this crap from kids (youngsters in the office) all the damn time. Two. Spaces. After. A. Period.
 
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OSUIvan

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I was reviewing and correcting an essay that my daughter was writing for school and she informed me that her teacher was instructing her to only put 1 space after a period before the begining of a new sentence. Which of course led to a long discussion about the subject and me telling my daughter to use 2 spaces and if her teacher counts her off for it I would set her teacher straight. The crux of the teacher's reasoning seemed to be that two spaces after the period is a holdover from the typewriter era and was only used because all letters on a type writer were the same width and the 2 spaces made it more readable. Her teacher seemed to think it was not necessary in today's digital world because characters do not all take the same amount of space and they are not needed for readability any more. Your thoughts? Am I an idiot for insisting that my daughter use 2 spaces no matter what her teacher instructs?

Two!
 

OSUIvan

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I think the space thing predates Twitter. I mean I'm 31 and I've never been taught to put two spaces after a sentence. You guys need to quit getting sucked in by the typewriter industrial complex.

I'm 33 and was taught to use 2 spaces
 

FMPoke

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Bunch of freakin' liberals. Two spaces is just bureaucratic waste that serves no purpose.


If it was good enough for Paul and Silas it's good enough for me. I guarantee your there are two space in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bible. If you internet boys want to one space your way straight to hell go ahead but we true Americans will keep two spacing.
 

AC2017

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I'm 52 and was always taught 1 space. In my post graduate work they were Nazis about that kind of stuff on my research papers.
 

GoPokes43

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There was a long email chain about this at my office not too long ago. For publishing, it seems that one space is the right standard. I'm not in publishing - I use two spaces.
 

Anodyne

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I just finished a 102,000 word dissertation and you're damn sure I used one space and you're damn sure all my students use one space.

Also: no extra line between paragraphs (unless single-spaced), indent first line of footnotes (just as in the body of the text), single space footnotes with extra space between them (Yeah! Chicago-Turabian Style!), Oxford comma, avoid "it," no contractions, do not start paragraphs with a sentence that starts with a clause, do not end paragraphs with an extended block quote (put at least one sentence after the block, then start a new paragraph)...other than that I'm pretty flexible about things.

Other big peeve: hyphenated nouns. Ex: "The Civil War was in the nineteenth-century" should be "The Civil War was in the nineteenth century." If you want to hyphenate that, then write, "The Civil War was a nineteenth-century conflict."
 

osutater

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I didn't even know two spaces was a thing, and I've written a ton of research papers. I'm 31
 

Anodyne

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BTW I'm old enough to have learned to type on an electric typewriter, with correction tape and all that jazz. It was really easy to unlearn the two-space thing.
 

Jeff J

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I was taught two spaces, like everyone else over the age of 30ish in the present day.

The standard changed 10-12 years ago, and I adapted. It's more expedient and no one ever noticed, to my knowledge.
 

Jeff J

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Us old fogies were also taught to type out the word for numbers under 10, but one needs only to look at this thread to see that one didn't stick like "two spaces" did.
 

CowboyPhil

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I was taught two spaces in typing class also, but it did change with the wider use of computers. It adds a larger space after the period negating the need of two spaces.

I'm a graphic designer at a printing company and one of the first things I do when I receive files from customers is execute a find and replace on two spaces to replace with one. Then the same with tabs.
 

Mr. Blonde

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I was taught two spaces, and no one in JB school at OSU ever corrected that. It was only at work that the issue came up, and I started making the effort to change. Now I can see it in emails and such, and the wasted space annoys me. How quickly things change.
 

poke2001

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I was taught 2, then in college 1. I'm all screwed up. I generally find myself mixing it up a bit in the same paragraph. Luckily, I don't write for a living though.
 

Anodyne

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Us old fogies were also taught to type out the word for numbers under 10, but one needs only to look at this thread to see that one didn't stick like "two spaces" did.

That's still the rule for formal writing. We should come up for a consolidated style guide for message board posting. The NSB could be like the Chicago Manual of Style for internet spazzes.
 

Football_Goddess

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I still do two spaces--and did in my dissertation, Anodyne....But aside from that, I'm with you. Turabian FTW, tab in the first line of footnotes, single space within and double space between, but I'm also picky in that I don't like folks who change the font size of footnotes to match the size of text. They should be smaller than the text. They aren't the star.
 

Been Jammin

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I am glad I am not the only one. I will be 50 before the end of the year, and I had never even heard of the 2 space thing until recently. I took typing class in high school and was taught 1 space. For me, it has always been 1 space and always will be.
 

AC2017

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Been I've honestly never heard of using two spaces after a period.

It's been that way when I've written news and was definitely that way in grad school when they strictly required adherence to what Anodyne referenced (Chicago Turabian).
 
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JonnyVito

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All of you have debated one space vs two space but everyone in this thread has used one space.
 

nathajw

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Two spaces. I had to ask my fiancee before I asked her to marry me. There was no way I'm gonna procreate with a one-spacer. 31 btw.
 

AC2017

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Two spaces. I had to ask my fiancee before I asked her to marry me. There was no way I'm gonna procreate with a one-spacer. 31 btw.

And yet you use one space in your response in this thread. Curious.
 

nathajw

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And yet you use one space in your response in this thread. Curious.

I went to "Edit" post and checked. There's two spaces there after every period in that post. I have no clue why it doesn't look like it once you post. Two spaces after each sentence in this post as I type as well. Weird.