Bienemy was OC at Colorado during Bohn’s time there. I like Bienemy, but USC needs a proven HC.
Adam Schefter on Eric Bieniemy and USC
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USC needs a CEO type that knows all aspects of running a major D1 program.
Nothing less. No OC's, no DC's, no position coaches need apply.
Nothing less. No OC's, no DC's, no position coaches need apply.
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I'd agree with you IF we hadn't just hired 3 straight mediocre candidates. The idea is that after so many years of mediocrity, it would be nice to hire someone who has a proven track record of success as a college coach. It's not a guarantee of success at SC but it raises the odds. Taking a gamble on someone without head coach experience seems like a bad idea after Clay.
Tbh I had to censor what I wanted to say a hair or two lmao . Nice helperTee'd it up for someone.
Glad you didn't whiff on it.
Hard pass....
- No head coaching experience at any level
- Has only been a position/coordinator coach
- He is a successful OC with leagues hottest QB talent for the next generation (even Helton looked good with Sam)
This type of hire would be worst case scenario. Could he be a home run hire...maybe. Could he be a dumpster fire...maybe. I'd put odds of a home run at 25%. We have to do better.
- No head coaching experience at any level
- Has only been a position/coordinator coach
- He is a successful OC with leagues hottest QB talent for the next generation (even Helton looked good with Sam)
This type of hire would be worst case scenario. Could he be a home run hire...maybe. Could he be a dumpster fire...maybe. I'd put odds of a home run at 25%. We have to do better.
Fools gold and Andy is the one that runs that offense
You said is right here. It’s Any Reid’s offense he could replace Eric tomorrow with Clay Helton and keep it rolling.
He won’t have Travis Kelce, Hill or Mahomes here so what else does he have?
I see this as a Jimmy Lake like stretch. This organization has been through enough. Please have mercy on us fans and go out and get a proven HC with Experience. Ask yourself would Clemson or Alabama hire Eric Bienenemy as their HC? No! Well that’s who you have to beat to reach your goal. Think like them to beat them. You can’t be playing Risk while they are playing monopoly you have to beat them at their own game. That’s why I like Venables he would take over at Clemson if Saban retired and Dabo took the Alabama job. He’s a top tier NC winning DC not a HC but the level of DC experience more than makes up for that.
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Trust me, we’re thinking the same way. I’d LOVE for Tony Elliott to get a shot but I don’t see a coordinator with no HC cred coming in to clean up the Clay mess.
That’s an opinion, not a winning argument. I can give you 50 reasons why we want to have somebody proven and active in college football rather than a pro guy.
Pete Carroll was the exception as somebody who stepped down, succeeded, then step back up and succeeded again.
The names of those who have successfully gone from college to pros is short and the list of professional coaches who stepped down and succeeded at the college level is even shorter.
I like Venables, especially what we did to his defense in the NC game in Miami in 2005
With NIL in full force & being in Los Angeles, USC definitely could use a pro level type of Head Coach or an individual that’s already been at a blue blood level program.
Did the Chiefs win the Super Bowl when Hacket was the OC?Anybody else having PTSD from former KC Chiefs Offensive Coordinators (Hackett)?
So, in other words, you would only consider someone that has coached at SC; that pool of viable candidates is too shallow. Need to open it up to winners, regardless of where they won!
Hell he’s starting to look more and more like Charlie Weiss.
What's wrong with that? It's not like he's speaking Sugandese
Here's the thing, Eric has never been a HC and isn't the keys behind that offense at KC. My opinion on the hiring process has noting to do with considering someone that's coached at SC. Far from it. It's to look and get the best and Eric isn't the best option for HC. So I agree with you in that USC needs to look for winners but how they win and if they have a legit plan should be a factor. We need a coach that has their sh*t together and doesn't look like a clueless fool on the sideline. Or needs to blame someone else in the ether about, why they can't preform on Saturdays on the field, after a week of practice or even a full pre-season.
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What makes Cowherd anymore of an expert than anyone of us?
My problem with him is he's now an NFL guy through and through. He's just looking for the right NFL coaching job. He would put in a couple of 8-4 seasons and one of the pro teams would scoop him up
@ErikMcKinney, please tell us that we are going after a defensive head coach. I think the offensive head coaches don't bring the right physicality. We have been burnt out from offensive head coach (Kiffin, Sarkisian, Helton, etc).
I'd love a defensive guy.
The question that I have is as an OC under Andy Reid, does he really call the plays?! He was passed over by his own *alma mater* Colorado who went with Karl Dorrell
. Too much *risk* in this move. I'm not buying it.
My God - who the hell wanted Venables? He's terrible - anyone watch the Ohio State game last year? Know how many times he blitzed in that game? TWICE. The whole game. Know what Justin Fields' biggest weakness is? Keying and beating the blitz. Venables would be at the very bottom of any list for USC head coach.
Bieniemy is a strong alpha coach, something we haven't had here in a while. He holds the players accountable. He's been a strong influence over Mahomes I'm told. He puts a foot in the a$$ of players who aren't giving 100%. Now, the fact that he hasn't been a head coach is a factor, and it's the reason he's not at the top of my list. But he would be in the top group to interview.
And hating on USC while there.
If hired, it would be akin to Jack Del Rio coaching Notre Dame.
I love all these national reporters that don't know **** about USC football chiming in on who USC should hire as our next HC.
Screw them.
Screw them.
As a comparison, Meyer was able to recruit and develop players at a lesser college, Utah, as has Fickel at Cincinnati, but EB couldn’t help do that at Colorado.
The last 3 were offensive, no doubt about that
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Lol...if you ask that question, you haven't been paying attention to this world we live in...especially the nature of perceptions in Los Angeles, California.
Like when Hackett having Joe Montana at KC, them coming to USC as an offensive genius.
It was a politcal, racist comment.
It should not matter who or who is not a minority. Should only be about someone's qualifications
