After watching a bunch of this first round...

maroontide06

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and looking at the scores in other games, pitching must be really spread out and thin. You either have a guy who can get everyone out or nobody out. Need to stay in the winners bracket.
Bruce I realize you've seen a lot of baseball, but with your in-depth knowledge of the game do you think State can make it to the CWS finals if they find a way to snag two in Athens this weekend?
 
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I realize this is crazy, but if we pitched Tico in G1 and ride him through 7 then bring in Bauer/Webb and they're able to get 2 innings and close it...what if we went with Mac in G2 hoping he gets 5-6 innings then bring Stone in for 2-3 then Davis! Go all in!

I'm only 1/2 joking...we'd never do that, and probably understandably so.

Bottom line, our bullpen has to show up this weekend and throw strikes.
 
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I realize this is crazy, but if we pitched Tico in G1 and ride him through 7 then bring in Bauer/Webb and they're able to get 2 innings and close it...what if we went with Mac in G2 hoping he gets 5-6 innings then bring Stone in for 2-3 then Davis! Go all in!

I'm only 1/2 joking...we'd never do that, and probably understandably so.

Bottom line, our bullpen has to show up this weekend and throw strikes.
I’m thinking Mac goes 5 in game 2 then Papelbon and Holder cover the rest
 

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The lack of pitching quality overall was pretty shocking. I’m not sure what the problem is or how to fix it, but college baseball definitely has a pitching problem.
 

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Bruce I realize you've seen a lot of baseball, but with your in-depth knowledge of the game do you think State can make it to the CWS finals if they find a way to snag two in Athens this weekend?
We have to stay in the winners bracket. The bats have seemed to wake up. The breaking balls haven't killed us. Really depends on if the biorythms are running high.
 

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We have to stay in the winners bracket. The bats have seemed to wake up. The breaking balls haven't killed us. Really depends on if the biorythms are running high.
Bruce I understand everything in your response until I get to the word biorhythms. What exactly is that, or is that something that is difficult to explain?
 

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Bruce I understand everything in your response until I get to the word biorhythms. What exactly is that, or is that something that is difficult to explain?
Guess they don't exist anymore. It was a thing kinda like horoscopes where you could ask a computer to spit out a biorythm chart for you based on your birthday. It was a pseudoscience thing in the 70s and 80s that tried to define when things were going good or bad. I am just using it as that mysterious unknown when someone gets hot.

 
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Guess they don't exist anymore. It was a thing kinda like horoscopes where you could ask a computer to spit out a biorythm chart for you based on your birthday. It was a pseudoscience thing in the 70s and 80s that tried to define when things were going good or bad. I am just using it as that mysterious unknown when someone gets hot.


So, like midi-chlorians. Got it.
 

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Guess they don't exist anymore. It was a thing kinda like horoscopes where you could ask a computer to spit out a biorythm chart for you based on your birthday. It was a pseudoscience thing in the 70s and 80s that tried to define when things were going good or bad. I am just using it as that mysterious unknown when someone gets hot.

I'm old enough to remember when this was a thing, hadn't heard it in years.
 

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Guess they don't exist anymore. It was a thing kinda like horoscopes where you could ask a computer to spit out a biorythm chart for you based on your birthday. It was a pseudoscience thing in the 70s and 80s that tried to define when things were going good or bad. I am just using it as that mysterious unknown when someone gets hot.

Thanks for the insight Bruce. I had no idea this was even a thing. I kind of inferred it to be a team chemistry/gelling kind of thing. Hopefully these biorhythms are peaking at the right time. How do I go about obtaining a degree from the University of Bruce Castoria? I feel like that would be a very useful degree LOL.
 

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More kids are playing soccer when they use to be at the baseball field like my age group. Just not as many kids developing into pitchers.
 

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Bruce I understand everything in your response until I get to the word biorhythms. What exactly is that, or is that something that is difficult to explain?
Guess they don't exist anymore. It was a thing kinda like horoscopes where you could ask a computer to spit out a biorythm chart for you based on your birthday. It was a pseudoscience thing that tried to define when things were going good or bad. I am just using it as that mysterious unknown when someone gets hot
 

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Oof, looked like it only had about 90 on Saturday.

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O'Connor has gotten in a bad habit of trying to extend him one too many innings lately. He starts wearing down around 90-100 pitches. If he's already 85+ on the pitch count, I say don't send him out to start a new inning. If you do, have an arm warm in the pen so you can pull him after the first baserunner reaches that inning. This trying to steal an entire inning with him lately has cost us some runs. That doesn't hurt against lesser opponents, but Georgia can make it hurt...and fast.
 

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O'Connor has gotten in a bad habit of trying to extend him one too many innings lately. He starts wearing down around 90-100 pitches. If he's already 85+ on the pitch count, I say don't send him out to start a new inning. If you do, have an arm warm in the pen so you can pull him after the first baserunner reaches that inning. This trying to steal an entire inning with him lately has cost us some runs. That doesn't hurt against lesser opponents, but Georgia can make it hurt...and fast.
I think that he has a lack of confidence in our bullpen. I can’t blame him for that.
 
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The lack of pitching quality overall was pretty shocking. I’m not sure what the problem is or how to fix it, but college baseball definitely has a pitching problem.
Staff ERA’s have been skyrocketing for the past 4-5 years or so.

Therefore, only one conclusion can be reached…..over 300 D1 pitching coaches all started sucking at their jobs at the same time, around 2022. Literally no other explanation*****
 
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Unless you're a first rounder, a good arm could get you more $ via NIL...
We should already be seeing more talented upperclassmen staying, particularly those guys that are borderline that in the past would have gone after year 3 because they had a little bit of leverage, now sticking around to pocket NIL money. So I assume the staff ERA has been going up the last few years, it's because there are more good hitters sticking around than good pitchers? Or maybe it's just natural fluctuations and NIL hasn't helped pitching or batting relative to the other.
 

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Years ago when MLB was talking of more expansion, there was an analyst that laid out his opinion that runs would increase as there is a lesser pool of quality arms than there are hitters. I don't remember exactly who it was, but I do recall that it was someone that would know like a Smoltz. That has to propagate down into College as you have seen an increase in emphasis on baseball and more quality position players opting for school rather than the minors. We also know that in baseball in general there is concerted effort to add scoring to increase fan interest.
 

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Years ago when MLB was talking of more expansion, there was an analyst that laid out his opinion that runs would increase as there is a lesser pool of quality arms than there are hitters. I don't remember exactly who it was, but I do recall that it was someone that would know like a Smoltz. That has to propagate down into College as you have seen an increase in emphasis on baseball and more quality position players opting for school rather than the minors. We also know that in baseball in general there is concerted effort to add scoring to increase fan interest.
The biggest problem is that relief pitchers are at the bottom end of the NIL totem pole. Just looking at the SEC - our own neighborhood - everyone is capable of funding a pretty formidable batting order, and at least a couple of solid weekend starters. Relief pitchers all want to be starters eventually, because that’s where the money is. No relievers want to stay stuck in a situation where they don’t have a path to start within a year or so at most, and they don’t command enough NIL money to stay for that reason alone.

So, they move around and sometimes even go down a level to a less prestigious school if they see an opportunity to get more innings. It’s yet another area where development is now dead due to the portal and NIL. Throw in the circus that everyone deals with regarding TJ surgery and uncertainty with HS pitching signees signing or going to college, and you get what we have now, where nobody can assemble a formidable bullpen beyond 1-2 guys.

It’s the same problem as football, where even elite programs can’t hang onto 2nd/3rd string DL, 3rd string QB’s, etc.
 
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I realize this is crazy, but if we pitched Tico in G1 and ride him through 7 then bring in Bauer/Webb and they're able to get 2 innings and close it...what if we went with Mac in G2 hoping he gets 5-6 innings then bring Stone in for 2-3 then Davis! Go all in!

I'm only 1/2 joking...we'd never do that, and probably understandably so.

Bottom line, our bullpen has to show up this weekend and throw strikes.
I’m not saying that this is the exact route that I’d go, but I think you’re 100% spot on in that if we are in position to win any of these games by the 6th/7th inning, we have to throw everything we can at them to get the W. We cannot play UGA with a “we’ll get the tomorrow” mentality
 

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I've seen it implied or stated a lot this week, but I just don't think we'll see any game where 2 of our 3 primary starters will be in a game together (unless it's game 3 and somebody who got knocked out early in Game 1 or 2 comes back).

I may be wrong about this, but I just don't see us burning a possibly very needed Game 3 starter when we have lots of options in the bullpen to get us through.
 
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So, like midi-chlorians. Got it.

the force awakens GIF by Star Wars
 
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Hasn't it always been a lack of quality pitching college baseball?

In 2013, help me remember, by the time we got to the CWS, we were starting a guy that threw nothing but off speed stuff. Cohen tried to get 3 innings out of him before the bullpen finished. Most of the time, the kid pitched 1-2 innings.
 
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Hasn't it always been a lack of quality pitching college baseball?

In 2013, help me remember, by the time we got to the CWS, we were starting a guy that threw nothing but off speed stuff. Cohen tried to get 3 innings out of him before the bullpen finished. Most of the time, the kid pitched 1-2 innings.

Luis Pollorena (great pinch hitter as well) or Ross Mitchell?
 

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I've seen it implied or stated a lot this week, but I just don't think we'll see any game where 2 of our 3 primary starters will be in a game together (unless it's game 3 and somebody who got knocked out early in Game 1 or 2 comes back).

I may be wrong about this, but I just don't see us burning a possibly very needed Game 3 starter when we have lots of options in the bullpen to get us through.
Let's say we win Game 1 using TV, Bauer, maybe Davis. Then in game 2 we throw McP or Stone, and we're leading by 3 in the 6th. I'd have absolutely no issue at all bringing in McP or Stone (whichever didn't start) to close the game vs. trying to hold a slim lead for 4 more innings and gambling with the bullpen.
 

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Let's say we win Game 1 using TV, Bauer, maybe Davis. Then in game 2 we throw McP or Stone, and we're leading by 3 in the 6th. I'd have absolutely no issue at all bringing in McP or Stone (whichever didn't start) to close the game vs. trying to hold a slim lead for 4 more innings and gambling with the bullpen.

I'm simply saying I'll be surprised if we do something like that, and would be interested to hear Oak's thinking on it afterwards.

You're gambling either way with the bullpen or with putting a starter into a reliever's slot.
 

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I'm simply saying I'll be surprised if we do something like that, and would be interested to hear Oak's thinking on it afterwards.

You're gambling either way with the bullpen or with putting a starter into a reliever's slot.
Yeah i don't expect we'd do that either...but then again I don't know Oak's level of risk aversion yet. I'd be ok with him doing it
 
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