Anybody still want Jeff Brohm?
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He gave Alabama more of a game at WKU than we did with a 12 million dollar buyouts worth of recruiting classes. If he had our raw, ridiculously still undeveloped talent down there in BG he'd be 5-1
And you came to this conclusion how? Both games were 17-3 at half, both of these games included a defensive td in first half. Would scored a td although with 45 seconds left. Both games were eerily similiat, but that don't fit the agenda of a certain crowd. Kentucky also was a tipped ball from going up 10-0. "
After the wku game saban was all over his players, while his team and himself some some nice things about U.K. Here is the comments after wky
"I don't know that I've ever been this disappointed after winning a game, maybe ever. We have lots of work to do. We're going to play a lot better teams. I didn't think we practiced very well this week. I didn't think we prepared very well for this game. I don't think we respected the team we played. Like I said before, when you're arrogant, it makes you complacent. It creates a blatant disregard for doing things right. If we don't start doing things right, we're not going to have the kind of success that we're capable of"
After Kentucky win, " I told be all week this would be a better game, and Kentucky was better than they were previewed as". And to end his press conference "all and all I thought this was a good win for us"
But that don't fit the agenda!
We suck, but being better than us is the standard for picking a new coach? The team that beat WKU is now 3-3 and plays in WKU's conference. But, let's judge Jeff by the fact that his team lost to Bama by about the same margin as UK lost. Seems to me we should be hyping the Bulldog's coach. They moved the ball better than Bama did against WKU. That coach must be awesome!!!!
Yes. 2 of their losses are against SEC competition. One of those by 1 point in OT when Brohm went for the win. For the people who act like it's some kind of argument that UK played Bama a tiny bit better than WKU, you have to take into consideration UK should have more talent than WKU.
There is also the possibility that Saban didn't run up the score on WKU because they were an inferior opponent. Maybe he did the same thing against UK....hmmmmmm
There is also the possibility that Saban didn't run up the score on WKU because they were an inferior opponent. Maybe he did the same thing against UK....hmmmmmm
If UK ends up looking for a new head coach this offseason, it needs to pick a head coach with focus beyond one season of work.
This is a reminder for those who will overreact to whatever Neal Brown does this one season at Troy. IIRC, even Doug Martin (for UK QB and now New Mexico St hc) once had a 10+ win season at Kent State.
This is a reminder for those who will overreact to whatever Neal Brown does this one season at Troy. IIRC, even Doug Martin (for UK QB and now New Mexico St hc) once had a 10+ win season at Kent State.
If their last name doesn't end in iles I'm not interested at this point. I'd like to see a proven winner hired as coach if it comes to that.
guess if we beat that same "SEC competition" Vandy by 2 points or more Stoops should be coach for life
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Does UK have more talent? More experience? The thought that WKU has less talent is an assumption. Does UK have more talent than Houston? Does OU have more talent than Houston? Should it?
The argument was actually that WKU played Bama better than UK. You may be responding to the response to that claim.
And, I love how Vandy sucks when they beat UK, but they are an "SEC team" when WKU loses to them.
Some of you people need to just stop posting.
Yet he losses to a team in his conference with the same resources he has.
I never understood this argument for those who hate the coach. It really is contradictive. News flash!!!! UK, even with the new improvements and upgrades, STILL doesn't have the resources as their competitors on a weekly basis. So this argument really hurts your agenda.
What will happen if UK loses to Vandy tomorrow? All I'm saying, the OP wants to act like WKU being 3-3 at this point is some kind of failure on Jeff Brohm and we should run the other way from him. He left out that tidbit of information that 2 of those losses are to SEC schools. WKU shouldn't even be in those games what so ever. And Stoops and UK are losing to Southern Miss. Come on dude. Stoops has 7 games to prove he needs to stay the head coach here. I don't think he proves it at the end of the year and UK is moving on. They need to look at Jeff Brohm when that happens.
Newflash....UK probbaly has already spoke to his agent and gauged interest as well as a few other coaches..
4 years in and you don't have more talent that WKU? That's on the coaching staff at UK then and that isn't making a pro Stoops argument at this point. When Joker was fired, and Stoops lost to WKU the next year, people argued the problem was WKU had more talent. Now 4 years later, the question can still be asked if WKU has more talent than UK. That's sad.
Not questioning what you are saying, but interested in your take of what resources we lack in.
I have been visiting other SEC venues and one reason was to see what they have that we don't.
All that tells me is that Saban thinks that UK has more talent than the results on the field would indicate. If I was this staff a coach making a comment like that should be an embarrassment. That is truly a quote of "that team should be better than how they have played".
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OK dude, think whatever you want if it make you feel good despite it not being based in any form of reality
the merits and flaws of this nonsense aside, something you just made up on the spot is not a news flash.
Agree with this. I'm not against Brown in the future, but our next coach needs to be someone who has real HC experience. I could see our next coach being a bridge that leads to Brown after him, assuming Brown has proven himself at that point.
You really think that coaches get hired in a couple of days like it's reported on ESPN? That's not the way it works. With the situation at UK right now, even Barnhardt, is going to be calling these coaches' agents and sending out feelers in case a change has to be made. Don't believe "evaluate at the end of the year" nonsense that these AD's spew out.
AD's talk to these guys agents so the coach can deny they aren't going anywhere or haven't spoken to anyone. Look at the size of these contracts. That's not drawn up and negotiated and signed in 2 days, even 2 weeks. There's so much behind the scenes stuff with coaching hires it isn't even funny.
Maybe I woke up in the Twilight Zone this morning but how can a team be 3-3 if they've only played 4 games this year?
You didn't go to the game then - UK gave Alabama a better game this year.
Go Big Blue!
I would rather have Neal Brown. I said this earlier and got shot down. Brohm didn't recruit the players he was excelling with - just check it out for yourself - his team was heavily Willie Taggart's players last year with a few from Petrino. Brown is doing it with HIS players -17 of the two deep playing at Troy were recruited by Neal. If we need to make a change we need to realize Neal's success at recruiting, motivation, game planning, etc. Neal has proven himself as an OC and his offense did extremely well here as well. It wasn't the offense that kept us out of a bowl here in the second year of Stoop's here. If the defense had come thru that year we go bowling - we did put 40 up on Louisville at Louisville while Petrino took his third string QB and beat us as the defense just didn't get it done. His offense also put up 31 against both Georgia and Mississippi State when State was ranked #1 - think about it!
Go Big Blue!
I like Neil. But the counter point of his players, is 26 on the two deep are jr or above. They are a very experienced team. But he has done a great job this year
I thought the same thing for a while but I grew up with his nephews and the bad half of my family is pretty connected with UL athletics. From what I understand the Brohm's weren't real happy with the way Jeff's first coaching gig at UL went with regards to how Jurich handled things. Thought it was interesting because that family is about as die hard UL as it gets.
I think Brohm will probably bounce at the end of this season.
He could very well end up at Vanderbilt, Boston College, Purdue, NC State, GA Tech
I also look at Houston as a very attractive spot for really any coach not quite up for top tier gigs just yet.
I mean you can go to a P5 bottom feeder and struggle, maybe even end your career or you can go to Houston. It's a stable nationally recognized program on the rise, has easy access to the very best talent in the country, a relatively easy schedule, and it has catapulted Briles, Sumlin, Herman to top coaching names.
Right now if I'm Jeff Brohm, PJ Fleck, Neal Brown and other young coaches rising up the ranks I would feel out houston. They could go there win 8-10 games easily for a couple seasons and then be in a real position to make the call lists of some solid programs.
He could very well end up at Vanderbilt, Boston College, Purdue, NC State, GA Tech
I also look at Houston as a very attractive spot for really any coach not quite up for top tier gigs just yet.
I mean you can go to a P5 bottom feeder and struggle, maybe even end your career or you can go to Houston. It's a stable nationally recognized program on the rise, has easy access to the very best talent in the country, a relatively easy schedule, and it has catapulted Briles, Sumlin, Herman to top coaching names.
Right now if I'm Jeff Brohm, PJ Fleck, Neal Brown and other young coaches rising up the ranks I would feel out houston. They could go there win 8-10 games easily for a couple seasons and then be in a real position to make the call lists of some solid programs.
Houston thumped FSU in a bowl last year and manhandled OU this year. Houston of a non-P5 variety. Houston.
I do not know whether WKU has more or less talent than UK. Never claimed to know. But, I do know that your assumption that WKU should never have more talent is false and ridiculous.
I think that Brown should get a serious look now. I wouldn't of said that prior to this year, but he is proving that he can manage a program. He comes from a direct Mumme /Leach line and that line has turned out some pretty good college coaches that win with less talent. I think Stoops knows defense but is just not very good at managing a program from the top.
Willie Taggart's players aren't walking through that door. Seriously though, I thought it was odd with all the jobs that were open last year that Brohm didn't get more than a passing glance at any of the openings. I mean, the Chikins were the first team to start their coaching search, and pretty much the last to make the hire and still wound up with a goofball like Will Moosechump.