RIVALS Ask Farrell: Which new Big 12 coach will be most successful?

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Farrell is supposedly an Oklahoma fan.
He gets so stuck on these recruiting rankings and if you don't recruit at this level you are not going to win at a high level.

Think everyone should wait on Neal Brown and see who he brings in.
Like Campbell with Iowa State. Guy brings in talent and that talent is helping them to bring in better players.
 

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I think Brown will make up for the difference in recruiting stars with good fundamentals

It seems as if Texas and Oklahoma are not strong at those and have not gotten stronger over the past few years.
 
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Recruiting stars don't mean anything.

Players do but where they are ranked do not.
Wonder why so many players who end up in the NFL aren't Top 300 players.


It is about finding potential and potential to fit the scheme.


Oklahoma isn't proving they can recruit on the DL or the secondary.
Still haven't. Far cry from where they were 10-15 years ago.

Texas- The proof is not in the pudding yet.
They are evaluating at a much higher level but we will see this year and next how great they are at it.


Nothing about fundamentals.
 

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I think Brown will make up for the difference in recruiting stars with good fundamentals

It seems as if Texas and Oklahoma are not strong at those and have not gotten stronger over the past few years.

Oklahoma not strong? They've won 4 straight Big 12 titles with 2 straight playoff appearances.
 
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Their OLine finishes blocks.

Don't know what he means by fundamentals.
OU hasn't been recruiting 5 stars on the OLine and they have developed.

Look at Cody Ford from Pineville LA. 3 star. Didn't get that offer that he wanted from LSU.
Jumped on an OU offer. Now is in the NFL

They just don't have the depth in Defense to play the way they do.
Things may change but their lack of quality depth on the DLine is their issue
 

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Texas has had the most talent but their coaching have sucked. They get less out of more. Talent galore and haven't done anything since 2009 losing to Alabama in BCS championship.
 
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They really haven't

What you saw last year was an average team.
Charlie Strong recruited very poorly

Tom Herman had to dramatically changed the roster.
Especially in terms of athleticism and potential
 

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Yup. That’s my original point. Brown will fill that gap between us and OK/Texas

The idea is that Texas is pushing Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has to improve because of Texas and Texas is getting very close to being at a peak.

Need to reach a level where we may never have been to get there
 

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The idea is that Texas is pushing Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has to improve because of Texas and Texas is getting very close to being at a peak.

Need to reach a level where we may never have been to get there

Need to reach the level of finishing 3rd every year and trying to catch up. Need to be a consistent 3rd place team and the titles will come after that.
 

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Need to reach the level of finishing 3rd every year and trying to catch up. Need to be a consistent 3rd place team and the titles will come after that.

It is outevaluating everyone.
Like what TCU does but they have a good talent base in Texas and North Louisiana.
Need to find the way to win with the players WVU brings in.
I like the development of walk ons. They can play positions that allowed WVU to play physical
 

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The idea is that Texas is pushing Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has to improve because of Texas and Texas is getting very close to being at a peak.

Need to reach a level where we may never have been to get there


If we play defense at even a decent level, the gap is closed. Texas and OKs are pure trash.
 

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If we play defense at even a decent level, the gap is closed. Texas and OKs are pure trash.
Do you even know what you are saying.
You are not stopping teams in this conference from scoring unless you have the depth and talent.
We are not anywhere close to having those players.
Alabama and Georgia had issues stopping Oklahoma the last two years on offense.
That is how good they are on offense.
 

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WVU will never have the resources to compete with the elites of the college football world dollar for dollar. The programs that have seemingly unlimited funding can compete for a title every year if they have the right coach.

What WVU CAN do is be a consistent 10-game winner each year, always being a good team, always being in the hunt and always being a part of the conversation of competing for titles, and then every 3-5 years being a great team and making a serious run at a championship.
 
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Some fanbases cannot handle the truth sometimes.

They are rather sad.
Nebraska, Bucknuts, Tennessee and a few other fanbases.
These people who work for these sites are constantly pissing fanbases off.


The thing is...
If the guy's voice didn't mean anything they wouldn't care
 

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Do you even know what you are saying.
You are not stopping teams in this conference from scoring unless you have the depth and talent.
We are not anywhere close to having those players.
Alabama and Georgia had issues stopping Oklahoma the last two years on offense.
That is how good they are on offense.

Ummm....I really do. There is a large gap between “stopping” and where our defense has been over the past several years.

How about, keeping the other team from scoring a few drives a half. Would that be “stopping” them? No.
 

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Ummm....I really do. There is a large gap between “stopping” and where our defense has been over the past several years.

How about, keeping the other team from scoring a few drives a half. Would that be “stopping” them? No.

That gap is based on talent.
What Gibson wanted to do worked against certain teams but sometimes couldn't get enough pressure and the CBs couldn't get on top of the WRs.
It was talent. Not enough depth on the DL and the corners sucked.
We can play like Army?
Holding onto the ball and running the triple option.

Only other teams who held Oklahoma to under 30 points in the last three years are 2016 Ohio State and 2017 Texas.
Even under 40 points. Oklahoma scored 40+ points on a 2017 Georgia loaded with future NFL talent.


That gap you are claiming won't be easy to close.
Pretty much near impossible unless we want to go in a shell or put nothing but blue Chip players on the field or future NFL players.