Football B1G considering removing P5 OOC opponent requirement

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The Big Ten is strongly considering removing its requirement for league teams to play a P5 OOC team annually, starting in 2024 per Brett McMurphy.

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Knight Shift

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The Big Ten is strongly considering removing its requirement for league teams to play a P5 OOC team annually, starting in 2024 per Brett McMurphy.

Overall thoughts?
Will we schedule Wagner twice now? 😜

IDK if I agree. I like the idea of us and other B1G teams playing other P5 schools (apparently the AAC is "lobbying" to remove the P5 label, but I digress), which gives the B1G teams a good measuring stick against ACC, PAC12, SEC and Big 12 teams.
 

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It'll make it easier to make a bowl game for us, so works for me. That said I could potentially see the B1G eventually going to a 10 game schedule especially if they expand past USC/UCLA.
As I’ve said for years on here that’s what I would want, more B1G games not less:

5H/5A and with the $$$$ we’re bringing in, buy 2 games every season.

But doubt it ever happens.

Now does this new idea from the B1G make it easier and almost guarantee 7 (and maybe 8 once once in a while) home games every season?

If that’s a yes, then there’s your answer.
 
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At the moment, it helps us improve our season results to schedule as many winnable games as possible. 6-6 and a bowl game looks way better to recruits than 3-9. IMO, the details of whom we beat will have less weight with HS kids than the overall record.

Once we get some momentum in recruiting, we can toughen the schedule. And also, if the Big Ten eliminates the East/West divisions, we might wind up with slightly easier schedules in conference. But that's the future.

Right now, we need to improve results to improve recruiting.

So Wagner for all OOC games! 😀
 
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I still think we should play our former Big East schools as much as possible on the OOC schedule and limit it to one buy game.
Maybe in the future but there's no advantage to us doing that right now. First we need to make sure we can win. THEN we can schedule whomever.

Playing nearby P5 schools and losing would be good for their recruiting and terrible for ours.
 
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From the article:


Since 2016, the Big Ten began “requiring” league members to play at least one nonconference Power 5 opponent annually. However, Big Ten schools could ask the league office for exemptions for other programs not in a Power 5 league to count as its requirement.

Besides teams from the other Power 5 leagues – ACC, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC – plus Notre Dame, several non-Power 5 programs counted toward the Power 5 requirement. That includes the three service academy schools — Army, Navy and Air Force — along with BYU, Cincinnati, UConn and others.

Ironically, the removal of the Big Ten’s Power 5 nonconference requirement would occur the first year that the College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams.

This season, Michigan is the only Big Ten school that did not schedule a Power 5 nonconference opponent (the second consecutive season UM didn’t schedule a Power 5 nonconference team). Only three programs — Northwestern, Ohio State and Rutgers — scheduled an FCS opponent in 2023.

 

krup

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Will do wonders for B1G Nielsen Ratings.

Fox Sports pleased.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Who cares? The B1G can use the time on the couple of September weekends impacted by this to count up the tens of millions of additional $$$ they make, while the ACC is worrying about ratings.
 

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i just want to start the season 4-0, have some optimism going into Game 5... and be competitive and surprise a game or two during the year.
 
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MADHAT1

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At the moment, it helps us improve our season results to schedule as many winnable games as possible. 6-6 and a bowl game looks way better to recruits than 3-9. IMO, the details of whom we beat will have less weight with HS kids than the overall record.

Once we get some momentum in recruiting, we can toughen the schedule. And also, if the Big Ten eliminates the East/West divisions, we might wind up with slightly easier schedules in conference. But that's the future.

Right now, we need to improve results to improve recruiting.

So Wagner for all OOC games! 😀
Wagner sounds great, but much rather have a cupcake program with a great band instead
Heck Deion might even give RU a plug if it's a HBCU program😁
 
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MADHAT1

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I feel at least one P-5 allow one FCS and throw in a mid major when a 9 game in conference schedule is in effect
8 game conference schedule still only 1 FCS program and mandatory P-5
10 game conference, P-5 game not mandatory
 

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No. Just more boring easy games. College football already has way too many non-competitive games. If you're good, you don't need easy games to pad your schedule. If you're bad, you'll get exposed eventually.
 

MADHAT1

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No. Just more boring easy games. College football already has way too many non-competitive games. If you're good, you don't need easy games to pad your schedule. If you're bad, you'll get exposed eventually.
I feel it's according to the conference schedule if cupcake games are good.
A tough conference schedule has programs looking for easy wins.
A wreak conference schedule means some tough OOC games need to be added , but also make sure more home games than away if possible.
 

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The Big Ten is strongly considering removing its requirement for league teams to play a P5 OOC team annually, starting in 2024 per Brett McMurphy.

Overall thoughts?
Can we get 2 FCS opponents and still qualify for a Bowl?
If no leave it alone and continue to schedule the lower P5 teams.
 

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Can we get 2 FCS opponents and still qualify for a Bowl?
If no leave it alone and continue to schedule the lower P5 teams.
There really shouldn’t be a need to do this if it’s okay or not.

On face it looks like there is enough money to get at least one bought FBS opponent every year going forward.
 

e5fdny

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Well, as I said earlier…if it were up to me I’d prefer a 10 game B1G schedule. But we’ll see if that ever happens.

In the meantime, 9 B1G + whatever other 3 we decide is fine by me.
 

MADHAT1

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Be careful….you’ll get canceled with that kind of talk
So , only graduate students are eligible

Excited Lets Go GIF by Major League Soccer
 

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Will do wonders for B1G Nielsen Ratings.

Fox Sports pleased.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
This is being done because the SEC and ACC refuse to go to a 9 game schedule. It now levels the playing field a bit. Sorry, but when you have Alabama scheduling, Utah St., ULM and Austin Peay or LSU scheduling. Southern, New Mexico and UAB something needs to be done.
 
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BigEastPhil

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Unless Big 10 decides to go to 10 game conference schedule in 2024, I don't like idea of not playing a P5 OOC Opponent.

If the above happens, will we cancel our future scheduled P5 OOC games?
 

Section124

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Greg is probably behind this (with his historically soft OOC schedules). I am against it since some of the best games are the early OOC match ups. It's the only way to compare where each conference is at the time. I understand with the playoffs that may not really matter anymore, but think it will change some minds for rankings on whether teams are in or not.
 

knightfan7

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Greg is probably behind this (with his historically soft OOC schedules). I am against it since some of the best games are the early OOC match ups. It's the only way to compare where each conference is at the time. I understand with the playoffs that may not really matter anymore, but think it will change some minds for rankings on whether teams are in or not.
Isn't any different than what the SEC does with their early OOC and Game #11 cupcakes. In 2022....

Syracuse played 1 P5 plus UConn and Wagner

BC played 1 P5 plus UConn and Maine

Maryland didn't play a P5 OOC

PSU played 1 P5 and 2 MACs

Rutgers played 1 P5 Wagner and Temple

It's not something Rutgers is doing that other programs aren't. It's the way teams schedule to their best advantage.
 

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I don't have a problem with this as it doesn't hurt us and as I said, this doesn't help ND so I'm all for it
 

Section124

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Isn't any different than what the SEC does with their early OOC and Game #11 cupcakes. In 2022....

Syracuse played 1 P5 plus UConn and Wagner

BC played 1 P5 plus UConn and Maine

Maryland didn't play a P5 OOC

PSU played 1 P5 and 2 MACs

Rutgers played 1 P5 Wagner and Temple

It's not something Rutgers is doing that other programs aren't. It's the way teams schedule to their best advantage.
Not sure your point. Everyone is going to play mostly Non-P5 games. I just prefer us to play at least 1 P5 OOC game per year. The thought of attending another practice game makes me less likely to have to attend the game. I will always be there for the tailgate. Plus teams like Rutgers need to play quality games to get into the Top 12. Playing Howard and Hampton will never get us there unless we go undefeated in the B1G (which will never happen). I could care less about Bowl games once the expanded playoffs commence.