Bad match up for us Saturday

sluggercatfan

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With all of the talk of a big win this weekend I'm afraid this is not a good match up for us.

Missouri is an uptempo team. Runs a lot of plays and uk has had a ton of trouble with these "nascar" type offenses. Look at Southern Miss and New Mexico State for example, there is more than just a couple of reasons we have trouble, but lack of depth in the front 7 and disorganization on the field and on the sideline during these fast to snap teams.

We are much better suited with teams who like to grind it out, but with Missouri I do not think we have the offensive fire power to consistently keep up if our d gets tired and it becomes a track meet like their game with mtsu.

Just a bad match up.

Dave
Here is a little skinny on Mizzou...against P5 schools wvu, Ga,Lsu,Fla they have averaged running 75 ppg..400 ypg..but only scoring 15 ppg vs giving up 35 ppg...I would take all these stats on Sat and like our chances. I do realize UK is probably not as good as any of those teams and we are probably much closer to mtsu so we shall see. mtsu had 316 yds rushing and 284 yds passing and scored 51 pts against mizzou. Surely we are close to being as good as mtsu.
 
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BigBoyBlueMMA

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We already rotate a lot of our D Line and DB and will probably do more nickle looks Saturday with a Tackling DB.. I say not only do we win, but do so in a somewhat convincing manner.
 
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* Take away Mizzuruh's two cupcakes with Delaware St & EMU, and they are #125 (they are #109 as is) in the nation in rushing defense, giving up 269 ypg.

* Sine the introduction of Benny Snell, UK is rushing for 238 ypg, which would be good for #21 in the nation.

* Mizzuruh's defense is physically hurting.

* Home field advantage? The attendance for the MTSU homecoming game was listed as 52K+, but realistically, it was probably half that. I tuned in from time to time, and the first thing I noticed was how empty the stands were. With Mizzuruh at 2-5 and and bowl hopes sinking fast, I can't imagine their fans showing up in droves for this.

Bottom line, if I have a team that can run the football, I like my chances against a team that has trouble stopping the run.
I can't agree with the OP! Home Field advantage & "Hurry-up" O are the two areas that I see as advantages! Having stated that however, I believe our improved D plus our demonstrated ability in the run game will permit us to control the clock and diminish Mizzou's ability to effectively control tempo!!!!!!!
 
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Gary4UK

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Why even mention not having a chance. Almost every thing other than Vegas points towards a UK win.
Where did you take your course in reading comprehension? Where in my thread do you find where I said, we have no chance?

Go back and read my post with understanding, and you'll get a much more coherent grasp of what I actually said...
 
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BigBlueFanGA

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Where did you take your course in reading comprehension? Where in my thread do you find where I said, we have no chance?

Go back and read my post with understanding, and you'll get a much more coherent grasp of what I actually said...
Perhaps the Dr. should heal himself.
 

Longtrip

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There is a reason we are not favored in this game. This is a big game for both teams. I have heard all year how good our DBs are; time to walk the walk - they will be tested early and often. We need to rotate our defensive front seven or the second half will not go well. Finally, the team with the least turnovers and mistakes (stupid penalties) will win this game. I am expecting a great game.
 

brianpoe

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I know but I can't take seriously the numbers they put up on Delaware or even E Michigan. Their running game is pedestrian. Outside of those 2 games their QB completes well less than 50%. That is bad and hidden by skewed stats.


I see your point and dont disagree.

I also see that everyone is throwing out the P5 game stats, but they have played UF, LSU, UGA and WVU (in Morgantown).

So we must take that into account.


Let's just say if it ends up being a game of whoever has the ball last I'll be more nervous with their offense than I was USCjr, Vandy or MSU...
 

BobbyK49

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With all of the talk of a big win this weekend I'm afraid this is not a good match up for us.

Missouri is an uptempo team. Runs a lot of plays and uk has had a ton of trouble with these "nascar" type offenses. Look at Southern Miss and New Mexico State for example, there is more than just a couple of reasons we have trouble, but lack of depth in the front 7 and disorganization on the field and on the sideline during these fast to snap teams.

We are much better suited with teams who like to grind it out, but with Missouri I do not think we have the offensive fire power to consistently keep up if our d gets tired and it becomes a track meet like their game with mtsu.

Just a bad match up.

Dave
Missouri's defense gave up over 300 rushing yards to Middle Tenn. I'd say they need to worry just as much about match ups.
 

jauk11

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There is a reason we are not favored in this game. This is a big game for both teams. I have heard all year how good our DBs are; time to walk the walk - they will be tested early and often. We need to rotate our defensive front seven or the second half will not go well. Finally, the team with the least turnovers and mistakes (stupid penalties) will win this game. I am expecting a great game.

  1. There is no great game unless wins.
 

WildcatofNati

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I am not sure why everyone keeps wanting to "throw out" the Delaware St. and EMU games when looking at Missouri. If you take out those two games, yes, they are not nearly as highly ranked in the stats. But, if you then take out everyone else's two cupcakes as well, all of sudden they would go right back up- maybe not as high because Delaware St. is really bad.
 

JDHoss

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I am not sure why everyone keeps wanting to "throw out" the Delaware St. and EMU games when looking at Missouri. If you take out those two games, yes, they are not nearly as highly ranked in the stats. But, if you then take out everyone else's two cupcakes as well, all of sudden they would go right back up- maybe not as high because Delaware St. is really bad.

You're not sure why? Really? Because if you really want to get a feel of how a team is doing, you get rid of the cupcakes. As it is, Mizzuruh is #109 in rushing D. Throw those dogs out of the equation, and they drop on down to #125. To paraphrase Otis Gillispie, "that's a really bad stat"...
 

Deeeefense

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I think Kentucky definitely controls the line of scrimmage on offense and can hold their own, on defense.

When all is said and done about this game I still just can't get passed the fact that Mizzou has beaten a total of ONE FBS team all year and that was a beyond horrible Eastern Michigan team. I realize they had a crazy schedule playing 2 cupcakes and 4 teams that are or were in the T-25, but still they have just haven't really shown up at all against quality competition.
 

BlueRaider22

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They are without their best DL and another starting DL has to sit for the first half. They are without their star leading tackler LB. They likely will be without a starting CB. Their starting RB wasn't the same after he banged up his shoulder last wk. They are 2-5......and struggle against fairly decent teams. They are very vulnerable to the run.....which is our strength. And we have started gaining momentum coming off several wins.

So how is this a poor matchup again?

But you are correct. There will be fans that will feel that we "should" shut them out on defense. This mindset displays a lack of knowledge. Sure, we will try to, but it's more likely that they will move the ball fairly decently at times. This likely will be a fairly high scoring affair. Nothing crazy but fairly high.

I trust our defense to stop their offense more so than I trus their defense to stop our offense.
 
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howercat

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Recipe is ready simple, run the football down their throats, control the clock, pound it down their throats. Boom and Benny. Don't let their offense have a chance to score. Control the clock and possession and u have a W.
 
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BigBlueFanGA

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I see your point and dont disagree.

I also see that everyone is throwing out the P5 game stats, but they have played UF, LSU, UGA and WVU (in Morgantown).

So we must take that into account.


Let's just say if it ends up being a game of whoever has the ball last I'll be more nervous with their offense than I was USCjr, Vandy or MSU...
I agree. I think it's going to come down to exhausting their defense. Between our run game and their fast paste, haha, offense, I think they'll be done halfway through the 3rd quarter.
 
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Tempo used to kill us because we had an incompetent DC who couldn't get the play call in on time, and didn't understand substitution patterns.

Now, it's the total opposite.

If we don't gift them a defensive or ST td; we'll control the game.
 

Burly

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We need positive yardage on first down
Control the ball and no more than one turnover
Play to win

On defense we need to pressure Locke and make him uncomfortable
We need to tackle well in secondary
No cheap TD's make them go on long drives

We should have confidence after winning last few games
 
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Poetax

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With all of the talk of a big win this weekend I'm afraid this is not a good match up for us.

Missouri is an uptempo team. Runs a lot of plays and uk has had a ton of trouble with these "nascar" type offenses. Look at Southern Miss and New Mexico State for example, there is more than just a couple of reasons we have trouble, but lack of depth in the front 7 and disorganization on the field and on the sideline during these fast to snap teams.

We are much better suited with teams who like to grind it out, but with Missouri I do not think we have the offensive fire power to consistently keep up if our d gets tired and it becomes a track meet like their game with mtsu.

Just a bad match up.

I would agree if the same defense that played those two games were still playing that same bad defense. Plus I know the SMiss second half was bad bu the first half was great and we beat New Mexico so I think we are ok.
 

Bryo72

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unfortunately Vegas is right 96% of the time....we lose tomorrow....AP yes, then our hope is GA.....Tenn/UL no
Otherwise another 5-7 season...I'll admit I said 6-6 or 7-5....I really hope I'm wrong about tomorrow.... I really do.....I like Stephen Johnson and he has done a good job, but it ends tomorrow
 

56gregory7

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Don't let them started, make stops on third down and our ground game should keep the ball out of the Tigers hands unless Boom and Benny score to fast.
Believe we will need an extra safety or two, that will put pressure on the DL and Short-handed LBers, to control the Line of scrimmage, but if they're going to spread us out and throw everywhere what else can we do... put LBers on slot receivers???
 

JC CATS

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Recipe is ready simple, run the football down their throats, control the clock, pound it down their throats. Boom and Benny. Don't let their offense have a chance to score. Control the clock and possession and u have a W.
Winner! Simple and to the point. Run clock on offense, pound the ball right down their throat. Show them some Wildcat, and pass out of the Wildcat some. Defense has to get stops and help too though. As has been mentioned, take care of the ball. Do these things and we go bowling!
 
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howercat

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Winner! Simple and to the point. Run clock on offense, pound the ball right down their throat. Show them some Wildcat, and pass out of the Wildcat some. Defense has to get stops and help too though. As has been mentioned, take care of the ball. Do these things and we go bowling!

The coaches know how to put a game plan together. They followed it to a T
 

supernova0221

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With all of the talk of a big win this weekend I'm afraid this is not a good match up for us.

Missouri is an uptempo team. Runs a lot of plays and uk has had a ton of trouble with these "nascar" type offenses. Look at Southern Miss and New Mexico State for example, there is more than just a couple of reasons we have trouble, but lack of depth in the front 7 and disorganization on the field and on the sideline during these fast to snap teams.

We are much better suited with teams who like to grind it out, but with Missouri I do not think we have the offensive fire power to consistently keep up if our d gets tired and it becomes a track meet like their game with mtsu.

Just a bad match up.

Dave
You don't seem too smart Dave
 

JDHoss

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I am not sure why everyone keeps wanting to "throw out" the Delaware St. and EMU games when looking at Missouri. If you take out those two games, yes, they are not nearly as highly ranked in the stats. But, if you then take out everyone else's two cupcakes as well, all of sudden they would go right back up- maybe not as high because Delaware St. is really bad.

Yesterday is a prime example of why you toss out the cupcake stats if you really want to get a better idea of who a team really is.
 

bigbluehomer

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Otherwise another 5-7 season...I'll admit I said 6-6 or 7-5....I really hope I'm wrong about tomorrow.... I really do.....I like Stephen Johnson and he has done a good job, but it ends tomorrow

But you gotta admit, it was a hell of a run while it lasted.

Oh wait,................
 
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Aike

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unfortunately Vegas is right 96% of the time....we lose tomorrow....AP yes, then our hope is GA.....Tenn/UL no

What do you mean by "Vegas is right 96% of the time?"

Do you have the data to back that up?
 

Blueaz

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They are a top 20 ranked offense regardless of opponents...
And we pretty much, shut it down.
It is remarkable the change in our OL and DL.
GA will be a really good test. With the way we (and they) have recently played. UK. Should win...should.

We have been here before. I hope that corner has been turned.
 
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brianpoe

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And we pretty much, shut it down.
It is remarkable the change in our OL and DL.
GA will be a really good test. With the way we (and they) have recently played. UK. Should win...should.

We have been here before. I hope that corner has been turned.


Absolutely great job vs the Tigers.

(Except of course for Westry who sucks, is lazy, and should be benched - @ulismyman )
 
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Blueaz

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Absolutely great job vs the Tigers.

(Except of course for Westry who sucks, is lazy, and should be benched - @ulismyman )
Of course. And we still need to burn Hoaks redshirt.
Westry has been a little disappointing after that freshman season...hopefully just a touch of the sophmoritis (sophmore slump)
 
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