Why no on Urban? You allergic to winning ? PROVEN, college winner. Sometimes, NFL doesn't translate to college, the way college doesn't always translate to NFL.
In my opinion Luke Fickle is on the verge of being the Next Urban Meyer. Think of Urban Meyer when he was at Utah. He just has to come to grips with the fact he will have to do it the hard way going the Cincinnati route. He’s kinda stubborn there. Urban knew he needed to go to a Florida and OSU or a Blueblood school to win it all because of the recruiting. I think he can adapt anywhere OSU is a big school with a big city like following. It’s not exactly Eugene Oregon.
He was just hired by the Jag's... Logically he will not leave unless fired in his first year. Its a NFL head coach position...you dont leave that to coach the college level in your first year or maybe even ever unless fired... He isnt an option right now. Maybe a year ago he would have been.
Yea he did not very long. He was more of a placeholder. He didn’t do so well because he hadn’t arrived yet. Lane Kiffin is not the same coach he was at USC. He’s grown. That’s a good example. LF didn’t really get a chance to set up shop at OSU. Following UM puts you on a very short leash. They had his bags packed the min he took the job.
100% agree I think it is going to be a great tier 2 guy.
If Chris Kleiman had been hired to USC years ago. He would be winning here. Instead of being stuck between Oklahoma and Texas.
I don't think he was ever considered an option for head coach. They just needed someone to take over temporarily after Tressel got fired over Tattoo Gate. They weren't going to bring in a whole new staff in the summer and try to prep for the season with a couple of months time. Urban thought enough of him to keep him around for 5 years as his DC.
Because he sucked that’s why he didn’t get a chance to set up shop. He took a talented team and went 6-7. Something Urban has never done. The man is no Urban Meyer by any stretch of the imagination.
This is gnawing at me in the background. Meyer brings instant credibility, but he's never lasted at any spot he was in. The stress burns him out, and USC's flame may be the brightest.
He was considered until it became crystal clear he had no idea what the hell he was doing.
At the time...now it's different. Why are you holding something that happened 10 years ago over his shoulders? ppl did the same with Pete. Not comparing the two but still.
The same reason people hold Franklin to moronic standards when Franklin is the one playing the tougher competition...
So you want Franklin? just say that. I personally, don't want em but I wouldn't be mad. But he's had similar problems finding an OC despite having support from Penn State.
"If Chris Kleiman had been hired to USC years ago. He would be winning here. Instead of being stuck between Oklahoma and Texas."
I'm positive of this being the case. It was the perfect time to hire him in 2019. But of course, Swann and his handler screwed us to go along with the mess in Heritage hall.
Which Klieman would we have gotten?
| Year | Team | Overall | Conference | Standing | Bowl/playoffs | AP/TSN/STATS# | Coaches° |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Loras Duhawks (Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference) (2005) | |||||||
| 2005 | Loras | 3–7 | 2–6 | 7th | |||
| Loras: | 3–7 | 2–6 | |||||
| North Dakota State Bison (Missouri Valley Football Conference) (2014–2018) | |||||||
| 2014 | North Dakota State | 15–1 | 7–1 | T–1st | W FCS National Championship | 1 | 1 |
| 2015 | North Dakota State | 13–2 | 7–1 | T–1st | W FCS National Championship | 1 | 1 |
| 2016 | North Dakota State | 12–2 | 7–1 | T–1st | L FCS Semi-finals | 3 | 3 |
| 2017 | North Dakota State | 14–1 | 7–1 | 1st | W FCS National Championship | 1 | 1 |
| 2018 | North Dakota State | 15–0 | 8–0 | 1st | W FCS National Championship | 1 | 1 |
| North Dakota State: | 69–6 | 36–4 | |||||
| Kansas State Wildcats (Big 12 Conference) (2019–present) | |||||||
| 2019 | Kansas State | 8–5 | 5–4 | T–3rd | L Liberty | ||
| 2020 | Kansas State | 4–6 | 4–5 | 7th | |||
| 2021 | Kansas State | 2–0 | 0–0 | ||||
| Kansas State: | 14–11 | 9–9 | |||||
| Total: | 86–24 | ||||||
| National championship Conference title Conference division title or championship game berth | |||||||
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I’m fine with either, however, I’m not fine with people lying and/or purposefully distorting facts to suit their weak narratives. I have no issue with us hiring Luke he’s just not a better coach than Franklin period. At least not at this juncture.
The guy that's not stuck between Oklahoma and Texas. After Bill Snyder left him with pretty much nothing on his roster. It's a joke that anyone would think coaches would be success at Kstate. It was a one man regime for 25 years. Gonna take a while before it changes there.
I don't understand the allure of Stoops. He hadn't been good for a long time before he hung it up. Haaaaard pass on Stoops.
Doesn't mean it's a sure thing it's Urban or even Fickell. Just know that a call has been made on contact with Urbans side. It could have just been a "hi" and "bye" but the call has been made.
Don't know bout Stoops, for some reason I can't get the 05 Orange Bowl out of my head
