No on both. Clemson’s fan base is completely fed up with Elliot, and Coach V is a little bit of a basket case. Great D Coordinator, but not the head of a program.
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Why is Fickell so far ahead of Franklin?
A retread?
Let's see some honesty.
Where's it more difficult to win at, Cincinnati or Vanderbilt?
A retread?
Let's see some honesty.
Where's it more difficult to win at, Cincinnati or Vanderbilt?
As far as Stoops is concerned.....
After awhile even great HC'S get to a point of being stale. 20 years for him, it got a little stale in Norman. It got stale for Bowden and Paterno. Maybe a different location and challenge was/is needed. PC was at USC for only 9 years. You could see a little difference at the end. He needed a new challenge. Why not Stoops?
After awhile even great HC'S get to a point of being stale. 20 years for him, it got a little stale in Norman. It got stale for Bowden and Paterno. Maybe a different location and challenge was/is needed. PC was at USC for only 9 years. You could see a little difference at the end. He needed a new challenge. Why not Stoops?
Yer correct but Sc doesn't look at it that why. Dont know why , but i guess its the culture. Thats why you will see the hire be a three year deal for 3-4 M per tops . If the guy produces he will get 2m raise for 4 years. Still way cheaper than the 150m nut . If he loses hes out.
Please google “James Franklin scandals".
I'd say it is easier to build a winning program at PSU than Cincinnati.
How many of the fan base will be patient with the new HC. That 1st year is usually mediocre or solid at best, unless you're handed a loaded team. Even Urban might go 8-4 at best that 1st year. It might take 3 years instead of 2. Depending on when the new HC takes over, Offensive line needs an infusion of talent.
As does the DT/NG positions.
As does the DT/NG positions.
There wasn’t an opening at ‘SC last year. Urban sat at the Fox desk and watched Helton coach…Urban wasn’t going to take a man’s job. He had to take the high road, even giving Clay the “thumbs up” sign on a victory. It was up to USC to fire Clay before last year….they let him fashion a “good“ Covid-shortened year and continue the charade.
I asked about Vanderbilt against Cincinnati. As that was each 1st HC jobs.
Nice way to avoid the question though.
So then scandal eliminates a HC candidacy?
If so then Please Google "Urban Meyer scandals".
This is all true but what Meyer has going for him is a virtual guarantee. If Meyer comes to USC I'm 100% certain we'll be in a championship game in the next 4 years.
Stoops is woefully past his prime, and even at his best he was never really all that great, even though he did win a natty very early in his Soonerr career, but haven't Sooners IMPROVED significantly since they replaced him with Lincoln Riley?
For me, it’s because Franklin has had 7 years at a traditional football power and hasn’t made the CFP yet, much less sniffed an NC.
I am concerned about getting an HC that wins just enough to keep his job over a long period, but never gets over the hump to where they are playing for NC’s.
There are no guarantees with anyone, including Fickell. But I’m more inclined to take my chances with Fickell, a guy with great success at Cincinnati, than with a guy who’s had 7 years at Penn St. but has only one Big Ten title, and has not been able to make the CFP.
Just my opinion.
John Harbaugh. It's worth making contact and I think he'd be interested. And yes I know he will cost a lot of money.
Did you just say your post was nonsense?
I think peterson, or O'Brian... Would both be good hires.
From my years working around the executive search business I'll share this: When a company is hunting for the "right fit" for a CEO, they generally end up with the candidate who wanted the job the most. He or she wants the position so much they make themselves the "right fit." What that means in the SC search is that a guy who is comfortable where he is will not want to take a flyer coaching a team thousands of miles away with lots of unknowns. Coaches, like CEOs, are risk averse.
That's why I believe the next SC coach will be someone from a lower school who sees this as a big step up, someone in a coordinator job who wants a head job, or someone who isn't currently working. All three will be hungrier, and will mold themselves to be the right "fit."
That's why I believe the next SC coach will be someone from a lower school who sees this as a big step up, someone in a coordinator job who wants a head job, or someone who isn't currently working. All three will be hungrier, and will mold themselves to be the right "fit."
He's terrible. He's the one coach that, if they hire, I'd throw a fit. He is a scheme-specific coach who has elite talent everywhere on his defense to mask his inability to adjust to the team he's playing. A big NO THANKS on that one.
I don’t give a rats-*** who is HC as long as they keep interim coach Williams!!
scandals should be a warning flag for sure, especially for USC. What Franklin covered up at Vandy would stop me. I do not find Urban or Herman that attractive either.
Fair argument on the scandal aspect. I will give you that.
But IF we are going to hire coach with scandals, I will go with the one with few nattys under his belt.
In terms of job comparison, I'd say the performance of Fickell and Franklin at their current jobs would be a better benchmark for future hire. It does not matter what happened before. CPC had a dismal HC record before he got hired at USC. I don't think his record at the Jets and Pats mattered when Paul Allen hired him (I could be wrong).
Anyway, this is just a forum posting. I like your passion. Let's agree to disagree.
Kleiman is an interesting thought, perhaps #5 on my list
Dont cut Franklin slack. Compare aples to apples. Losing jobs is not a scandal.. the underlying reasons why he lost those jobs, that is the scandal and if yer willing to overlook franks scandals then why not Meyers.
Hmmm...maybe losing your entire D-line to the pros, replacing them with 4 new starters and then winning a natty has something to do with people's fascination...just sayin'...
He was Reggie Bush’s suggestion, but his reasoning wasn’t very sound. Bush thinks he could recruit well, and that may be true. But unless you can coach, recruiting means very little.
Maybe Sanders HC career will flourish and he will show himself to be a great coach. But right now, all we have is nine games with a 6-3 record at FCS Jackson State. Not enough.
He’s 3-0 so far even Dave Aranda @ Baylor’s stock is rising but his offense is run heavy and they don’t throw the ball enough. As soon as they run into a team that can stop the run they are taking a loss. K- State is balanced on offense and heavy on defense Chris Kleiman’s teams play defense.
It would give him credibility considering so many believe he doesn’t actually call plays or design the offense.
It is a common perception.
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