I can certainly understand the concerns over hiring Miles- and they are legitimate concerns, imo. However, just exactly how picky can we afford to be? Can we do better? I'm just not sure
CBS Sports lists UK as #1 destination for Les Miles
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Would it be an upgrade from what we have now...absolutely however he would not be at the top of my wish list. I don't believe you can consistently win (especially at UK) trying to run the ball 70% of the time. We will likely never have a SEC dominate offensive line therefore I would prefer someone who would run a spread offense with a mobile QB.
I think in Miles case people believe he won in spite of himself a lot of the time, and that you have to question whether he could convince all of those Louisiana, Texas, and Florida boys to come to Kentucky. I have my concerns but given his track record you would absolutely have to go get him. Even he he doesn't win at the level he has at LSU his basement is probably 7-8 wins a season. THAT is what we need. Get the foundation we had with Brooks back. New facilities in combination with a string of seasons like that and suddenly we're taking about hiring a big name realistically.
Edit: Miles is a big name but an up and coming name, not another Bill Curry situation.
Lmao at people actually willing to take a pass on Les Miles.
Miles wouldn't be another Curry. Miles has actually accomplished things like winning a national championship for one. The guy has some flaws but if anyone thinks we're going to get some kind of perfect coach they're dreaming.
The guy can coach, recruit, and most importantly win. Not to mention the excitement and immediate respectability his name would bring. I personally think he'll get offered one of the big boy jobs like Mark Richt was last year. If Richt gets a job offer like Miami you better believe there will be schools just as good offering Miles.
The guy can coach, recruit, and most importantly win. Not to mention the excitement and immediate respectability his name would bring. I personally think he'll get offered one of the big boy jobs like Mark Richt was last year. If Richt gets a job offer like Miami you better believe there will be schools just as good offering Miles.
UK currently isn't a huge building job though. Decent talent already in place, facilities, stadium, and a hungry fan base. Just need a competent coach to put the pieces together.
Lol at our fans who don't want Les Miles. Our football fans are as dillusional as our basketball fans....oh yeah, they are the same fans.
People who don't want a coach of his caliber are straight up insane. Hope we don't hire him, he may build our program and make us good God forbid.
I really think we are overestimating who would take this job. I can gurantee no one better than Les Miles would. And its not really close
People who don't want a coach of his caliber are straight up insane. Hope we don't hire him, he may build our program and make us good God forbid.
I really think we are overestimating who would take this job. I can gurantee no one better than Les Miles would. And its not really close
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Les seems like a good guy but nothing special as a coach. Like so many others he parlayed a good short run at a lesser school (OK St) and some personality to a bigger job at a place that is not that hard to win 10 games in a 12/13 game season. There may not be a more rich talent spot in America to recruit from with LA, TX, and Deep South around. Now Les's personality did help bring in that talent but that sizzle would be gone anywhere else now
I think some of y'all are confusing expressing concerns over whether it could work here with flat out not wanting him. The concerns are legitimate but I'd damn sure like to try him out anyway. We wouldn't be eeking out OT wins against EKU in his 3rd year here, I guarantee that.
I remember as a kid..8-12 years old..going to commonwealth and beating lsu..im 29
In fact we did it a few times in my childhood.. so lets not act like lsu is just some perennial juggernaut despite their coach.
They have been way further down then they were with Miles.
I agree that if he wants cameron and the same offense it probably wouldnt work. But barnfart absolutely has to make that call and if hes willing to change offensive strategy then we shouldnt pass.
In fact we did it a few times in my childhood.. so lets not act like lsu is just some perennial juggernaut despite their coach.
They have been way further down then they were with Miles.
I agree that if he wants cameron and the same offense it probably wouldnt work. But barnfart absolutely has to make that call and if hes willing to change offensive strategy then we shouldnt pass.
Mixed feelings on that idea...on one hand, Miles is a sucessful coach that knows how to win in the Sec and at the highest level...he knows how to run a program, hire legit coordinators etc....on the other hand, he has somewhT underachieved at LSU considering the talent he has had. What would he do at UK...I don' t know. I do think he would win at least 6- 8 games this year with the talent UK has, and that would be improvement...its hard to say...Miles would either be our rich brooks 2.0, who could help get us respectable again and help set the program up for the future...or, he could be. a glorified Bill curry 2.0. Im not sure less is our best choice, but i think it would be worth a shot, rather than standing our ground.
I think the biggest question is, is Les Miles the kind of coach that the talent will follow? If so, then he would be more than capable of making UK an SEC East contender easily. If the talent wouldn't follow, then who knows. You don't get to where he's been by not being able to coach though.
Easy to win in the SEC west?? Ok, the coach matters. See OSU, UF, UT any football power can struggle with a bad coach. I dont car how much talent you have or how much tradition, coaching matters. Remember Billy G.....I know its hoops, but same thing. How good was Bama before Saban?? So every powerhouse has had bad years with the wrong coach. Les Miles cab coach. He didn't win 10 games a year juat because he was at LSU. To think otherwise is wrong, wrong and I juat gave you many examples as to why.
Exactly. Not my first choice but UK at least gets credit for trying if they bring in Les Miles.
LSU is the easiest school in the country to recruit at. Louisiana has more NFL players per capita than anywhere else, there is ZERO in-state competition, you're right next to Texas, and the majority of top the kids in the state are Tigers from birth. Since the level of state pride there is second to none, it takes very little effort to keep most of the top kids at home. There's really only one team that is a threat to LSU for Louisiana players and that's Bama, and if it wasn't for the connections that Saban made during his time at LSU, we probably wouldn't have any success in Louisiana. Can you imagine if there was no Auburn and Saban had the entire state of Alabama to himself? That would be about what LSU's recruiting advantage is, yet Miles averaged 3-4 losses per year from 2008-2015. He's the worst clock manager in the country, is horrible at making adjustments, can't develop a QB to save his life, and is incredibly stubborn. Miles wasn't even a top 10 coach in the country entering this season. By no means is he the worst coach, but he's not a great coach like many think that he is.
stopping the run and running the ball. that's what he likes to do and i think that's the only way to expect to make the sec championship game. that's my opinion anyway. i never liked the gimmicks. anyone can recruit lsu, if he can bring some recruiting edge that would be awesome.
Let me guess.
From Tennessee, grew up a vol fan, hated Alabama during the Shula years, jumped on the Sabah bandwagon?
Close?
People saying Les wouldn't be able to bring in the recruits to UK are wrong. Kids love Les and 90% of the time kids commit to coaches not schools. Les would bring better players to UK you can bet on that. His name has weight, much like Saban, Meyer, Harbough, when Les Miles walks in your living room you are at full attention.
Well, I'm going to assume at this point that your guy isn't available. And I'm hearing Urban Meyer is probably staying at Ohio State. Given that, we could do worse than Les Miles. Even if he isn't a Top 10 coach he would be a massive upgrade over Mark Stoops.
Not sure why people compare miles to curry. Curry had basically two successful years as a head coach at Alabama. He had a losing record at Georgia Tech and only had them in the top 25 one year out of 7, and only won 6+ games three of the seven years. He went to Bama and was very successful and went 10-2 before UK, but he certainly wasn't showing signs of being a long time successful coach. He had a losing record at Georgia Tech.
On the other hand, miles has won at least 7 games in every year since 2002. That's sustained success at two schools. Much different than Curry.
On the other hand, miles has won at least 7 games in every year since 2002. That's sustained success at two schools. Much different than Curry.
Like some have already stated, this would be a disaster. He'd be Curry 2.0. He has underachieved with the great talent he's been privy to in Louisiana and his decision making has been borderline ridiculous at times. When you have zero margin for error at a school like UK, it would be disastrous.
I know it is all about wins/losses but factor is that his offense would be like watching paint dry and his recruiting would be no where near what it is at LSU, I think we'd be right back where we are now after 3-4 years.
I know it is all about wins/losses but factor is that his offense would be like watching paint dry and his recruiting would be no where near what it is at LSU, I think we'd be right back where we are now after 3-4 years.
A lot of not so smart ITT. Miles has a championship and multiple SEC titles. This fan base complains we never hire proven guys, well here's one right in front of us. Unless you folks who don't want him think we should hire another unproven coordinator, because that's worked out so well for UK.
Nope. Born and raised in Massachusetts and graduated from Bama in 2013.
I don't get the Curry comparisons. Les won a national title and coached in another. Played under one the best coaches of all time. KNows how to develop the trenches. He's a great leader and interview and loves to coach. LSU fans even say he's a great recruiter.
If UK legitimately had a chance to land Bobby Petrino and Les Miles within roughly a 5 year period and passes on both of them, then this program deserves every bit of lack of success and embarrassment it gets.
might be enough for me to turn in my UK football fandom and just root for A&M or something.
I'm die hard UK, but the administration and some of the vision of this fan base is making me want to just give it up. It's approaching self inflicted loser status and theres no point in being a part of it.
You cant give up. Ive tried. You can laugh, joke or be critical but it is in your blood man.
You are probably thinking of the 1999 game (Mumme's third season). We plastered them with Dusty Bonner at QB.