My points were very clear. You just can’t refute them so you revert to your A and B points which weren’t all that good to begin with. I think @MrsScrew’s last post sums it up best. Give it up Shelby. This isn’t a huge deal, but you’re wrong on this one as was the PSU cheer team.
Classless move by psu during LeGrand tribute
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Thanks for the correction. You're right in being upset. (In other words, I'm not with Shelby.) Whether it was out of malice or not, what happened shouldn't have happened. The question is whether there's any way to keep it from happening again. I've suggested there is; but maybe there's not. Penn State fans have a long record of being obnoxious here (and elsewhere!), and it wouldn't surprise me if it's incurable. All I can say is that I wish we could beat them and shut them up.
C’mon 711. Being upset is fine, never said otherwise. But You know full well it wasn’t malicious. She does. It’s far beneath you to give that opinion credence. Yeah, it should have been communicated and not interfered with. A mistake, not classless or disrespectful. Not a chance.
Because intentionality in this matter is unprofessional, inhuman and inviting of intense public scorn if it proved true. Some things transcend athletic competition and fandom. These are peer universities with good people at both.
And why no mention by Schiano or the press ? If anyone would be angry about this, it would be Schiano and he’d be vocal.
Day after day we see people here denigrate everything Penn State, wholly unrelated to the Sandusky matter. It’s an inferiority complex. Do Ohio State fans conflate that with 2025 PSU? No, because they don’t lose to PSU every year.
It’s ok to agree with Shelby on something as obvious as this. He believes in your intellectual honesty/integrity.
Nope…but PSU fans definitely act this way towards Ohio State (buy into the tribalism assuming the worst in their fans, coaches, players, etc). Personally, I find it bizarre.
Assume you mean it’s also bizarre for RU fans to act this way abt PSU too. Yah, bizarre and also pathetic. Envy isn’t pretty. It’s embarrassing.
I just find the hatred of other teams/players/fans, the hypocrisy and ability to rationalize anything your team does while assuming the worst in the other “side”, etc. Then again, I feel the same about those really into politics.
Envy, betrayal, irrational thoughts…you name it. My recent example…James Franklin poached Vandy’s coaches and recruits when he came to PSU and it was all good. He does it now and he’s scum. Sports fans/rivalries bring out the worst in some.
I mean obviously no one is intentionally trying to disrespect an Eric Legrand tribute…unfortunate that it happened.
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100%. And Rutgers fans are as guilty as all the rest. To Shelby, the holier than thou attitude and vitriol goes beyond bizarre. It is disgusting. It’s a manifestation of an inferiority complex.
and yet the Gods shower flowers on their program. Maybe God is the Devil.
Cripes- some of you are just on the wrong side or even to try to back it up by brining up something from 2 decades ago that were fans and this was the PSU dance team.
That is a huge difference. Hell- I hate it even when our fans do the FPS chant when we are not even playing them- fans do stupid things.
And to try to say that they most likely don't know who Eric is or that they had no idea what was going on - calling BS on that one as well - maybe I give the dance team as individuals a pass but their coach should be completely aware of the situation and when you should or should not do something like that.
Shelby- while I do believe you are a Rutgers fan, I do believe that is not your full allegiance and it does seem you like PSU too much. And if that is not the case, then you really must just be a miserable person trying to find any fault you can of the team you claim to be a fan of. It gets really bad when you can't even back up your so called team when someone else pulls BS on them or someone like Eric.
Stand up for your so called team for once.
That is a huge difference. Hell- I hate it even when our fans do the FPS chant when we are not even playing them- fans do stupid things.
And to try to say that they most likely don't know who Eric is or that they had no idea what was going on - calling BS on that one as well - maybe I give the dance team as individuals a pass but their coach should be completely aware of the situation and when you should or should not do something like that.
Shelby- while I do believe you are a Rutgers fan, I do believe that is not your full allegiance and it does seem you like PSU too much. And if that is not the case, then you really must just be a miserable person trying to find any fault you can of the team you claim to be a fan of. It gets really bad when you can't even back up your so called team when someone else pulls BS on them or someone like Eric.
Stand up for your so called team for once.
Your first party self should tell your third party self to shut the f up!
When the home field is making a presentation of any kind its up to the away team to give it respect.
Comparing that to fans at the Navy game to people from athletics is also stupid!
King IgnoraBus speaks. Genius he must be. Everyone’s barking up the wrong tree. Rutgers needed to tell them. They didn’t, and not a whisper from Schiano or the media about it.
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Another closet PSU fan!
They knew!
Because he's a closet State Penn fan who believes JoePa should be canonized.
RU - “as you may know, every game we do a heartfelt tribute to Eric LeGrand, a former player who’s paralyzed from a football injury and has been an inspiration to our players, fans and community ever since. During this tribute we ask that your cheer squad refrain from actions that undermine the sincerity and value of this tribute”
PSU - “Sorry, no can do. Don’t care. Our cheer team matters more”
Yeah, that happened. So Embarrassing, pathetic and low IQ proof to have that take.
How about one of you geniuses contact athletics, or better, the media to express your looney tunes view. You’d be laughed at. Go ahead, someone do that and post the response.
Shelby knows no one will because you’d invite epic embarrassment upon yourself.
PSU - “Sorry, no can do. Don’t care. Our cheer team matters more”
Yeah, that happened. So Embarrassing, pathetic and low IQ proof to have that take.
How about one of you geniuses contact athletics, or better, the media to express your looney tunes view. You’d be laughed at. Go ahead, someone do that and post the response.
Shelby knows no one will because you’d invite epic embarrassment upon yourself.
You just don’t when to just stop. Regardless of how it went down, it was wrong. And if they had no clue, I could accept that if they apologized for it afterwards
So, this is the first time psu has been in Piscataway and we've done this? They know we do this every year, every game. You're making yourself look like an a$$.
Shelby stops when the absurdity and personal attacks stop. It’s truly a bizarre and pathetic view. You and Dame Screw are usually voices of reason but you’re off your rockers here. Idiocy from the others is expected.
No we haven’t done this tribute as long as you think, nor would PSU know the timing. Go ahead boss, you’re so sure. contact athletics and the media and let us know the response.
Obviously you don't realize that the time the gates open to the time of kickoff both teams have the schedule and know what is going to take place, up to the minute for every game. Home or away. To say they didn't know is stupid and completely false. Love that you are making false excuses for Penn State but have no problem lying this was Rutgers fault. Way to support Rutgers!
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Take the L as your position is untenable. They've been here plenty of times when we've done it, so they know we do it.(we've played them home and away every year since entering the B1G, except 2024) They receive a schedule of events so they know it's being done and when it's being done, yet they had their cheerleaders lead a chant during it anyway. It was a deliberate act, there is no, well we didn't know.
The cheerleaders also lead a “We are” cheer when we had players down in the field twice.
It's such a ridiculous take. How did it go down? The cheer coach said "hey guys, Rutgers is getting ready to do a tribute to a player that was paralyzed. Lets try to drown it out now with a cheer...that will really show 'em"?
Any rational person would know that this would have been an innocent mistake.
no, but anyone with eyes in their head would have seen that something was going on and would have said hey, lets hold off a minute.
Same thing. You’re saying it was deliberate. A decision to interfere. How long should we wait for Athletics to confirm your take ? Did you reach out yet ?
As you know, you and I have had some good ole arguments over the years- but one thing both of us can agree with- there is no doubt what team we are hardcore fans of...And he is even going to try to disparage Mrs. Screw - that is one that he is not going to win with anyone that is a fan.Obviously you don't realize that the time the gates open to the time of kickoff both teams have the schedule and know what is going to take place, up to the minute for every game. Home or away. To say they didn't know is stupid and completely false. Love that you are making false excuses for Penn State but have no problem lying this was Rutgers fault. Way to support Rutgers!
And what I said on the last time around- even if they did not do it on purpose, they also should have realized the moment, and by chance they still screwed it up- just apologize for it. I see that someone also just mentioned that they did a We R chant while our players were down- that is also a horrific look. And if the cheer team or their leader or any f-ing PSU person of authority didn't put a stop to it- again - they f-ed up big time and should issue an apology.
Even fans of the very worst teams know to STFU when any player is on the ground- regardless of whos team it is.
To tell you the truth I have no idea what your coaches were thinking, as no other team has ever done something like this before. That's a whole lot of teams over the years that got it and 1 dipsh*t school. Congratulations on your school doing something no one else would even think of.
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I doubt that anyone knows about this to bring about an apology. Is there anything out there other than this thread about it?
You are right - PSU doesn't give a **** enough to care. Where as- if we did it to them, even if they didn't say something- our Rutgers fans, administration, coaches, etc most likely would have cringed on the spot and recognize we did something we shouldn't have, and would have reached out without anyone having to tell us to do so...
Do you really think that not a single coach, admin, fan, etc at PSU did not see the Eric tribute and say to themselves "oh man, what the F are we doing?"
And if you didn't then that is just as bad.
BTW- every school has staff that learns the home teams traditions and tributes as well as if there is any other ad hoc events that will happen during a game and what the etiquette is...
Well given what happened in the past, we should not be surprised at all by this.
Keep in mind that when you say "not a single coach"...it's actually a single coach that travels with the cheer team. It's the coach, the mascot, and either 6 or 8 cheerleaders (don't remember what it's at these days road games). My guess is whatever administrators were there (again, a relatively skeleton crew for road games) were watching the tribute and/or not noticing the cheerleaders waving the flags while the lights are out.
I call BS on the statement of "BTW- every school has staff that learns the home teams traditions and tributes as well as if there is any other ad hoc events that will happen during a game and what the etiquette is...". Teams may send the opposing school a copy of the game Production Guide that will list out 50 pages of stuff happening before, during, and after the game. But who on the staff is "learning the home traditions, tributes", etc?
And yep, I read it again and again on the PSU board about how Ohio St did something to disrespect us, and " OSU doesn't give a **** enough to care. Where as- if we did it to them, even if they didn't say something- our Penn State fans, administration, coaches, etc most likely would have cringed on the spot and recognize we did something we shouldn't have, and would have reached out without anyone having to tell us to do so..."
Sucks that it happened. Obviously wasn't an intentional slight.
They don't have to know a teams tradition. As I said earlier. They are both given a schedule days before hand which accounts for every minute leading up to kickoff once the gates are opened! There is no "free" time for them to do anything they wanted. They knew what was going on but ignored it on purpose.
You probably still believe Joe Paterno didn't know. Making fake excuses always come from losers!!
Keep telling yourself that...it makes perfect sense and it's very reasonable. Only a loser would think that PSU's cheer coach doesn't have it out for Eric LeGrand.
You and Shelby are essentially making asses of yourselves by sticking up for the lesser of 2 evils....both of which aee bad looks.....
Either they had a gameday itinerary and chose to ignore it....which would be deplorable.
or
The cheer team acted on its own accord not knowing the itinerary and when the tribute started .....they chose to ignore it and continued with the "We Are" chant nonsense through the tribute.....which would also be deplorable.
Further....as pointed out in this thread....they did the same type of nonsense when injured RU players were being attended to on the field .....whish is also deplorable.
Or the 3rd, and most likely option, of someone in the Athletic Department getting a gameday itinerary (which based on experience is likely 50+ pages covering every detail of everything that happens from Friday afternoon until Saturday night), didn't call out this specific event to the cheer coach, and the cheer team was doing their cheer and waving their flags with no idea what was happening behind them as they do during every other break in the action.
I wasn't there so don't know the specifics...and many that have issues with it seem to despise PSU so it's getting traction in this thread, but I've heard nothing of this anywhere else.
My opinion, no one should defend PSU,and I'm not reading this entire post-- they're arrogant, cultists who think their poop doesn't stink. And in reality RU has passed them by academically. Pentucky is an appropriate description. , As for diversity,they suck.Nj parents need to wake up.
They knew and didn't care because Pedd St and it's cult-like fanbase only cares about Penn St and disrespects every thing that isn't Penn State oriented .
What Penn State stood for during the Sanduxky years still exists today in the heart and soul im most of today;s Bit fans..
A loser would think otherwise because they are easily fooled or wiling to accept abnormal behavior as long as their team comes out on top .
Respecting others isn't part of their gameplan because Penn St has a long history of putting winning over people.
The Bit cheer team didn't care about Eric LeGrand being honored > he wasn't Penn State and that made him not worth respecting in their eyes
Teams may send the opposing school a copy of the game Production Guide that will list out 50 pages of stuff happening before, during, and after the game. But who on the staff is "learning the home traditions, tributes
There you go- said it yourself...there is someone or staff- who actually has this on their to-do list. P4 Schools do in fact learn what is a tradition and what may be going on during gameday.
So, you would ok if your cheer team was doing the same thing when Iowa waves to the children's Hospital?
and 90% of HC's around college football- like them or not, they do learn these things too and usually have a very deep respect for these type of tributes. And if you don't think that is true- you are mistaken. And everyone associated with the PSU organization knows who and what Eric Legrand is...