Coach Stoops Better Replace D.J. Eliot After the Season...

megablue

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I'm fairly confident now that Coach Stoops will be back next season, but it's obvious that this teams defensive turnaround is because of Stoops taking the reigns away from Eliot, so if Eliot is still the DC after the season is over then there should be an uprising because there is no reason for the school to pay a guy to coach the defense when our head coach is making all of the calls.

Would love to see Stoops bring in a guy like Bo Pellini, Pelinni was the Co-DC with Bob Stoops at OU and is now the HC at Youngstown State so there is a lot of familiarity between the two, or how about Jim Leavitt or Todd Orlando the DC at Houston? Why not throw D1 head coach kind of money at a guy like that? There are a lot of quality guys out there who might listen to Coach Stoops and accept a position as the DC and would be worlds better than D.J. Eliot, but regardless somethings definitely got to happen in regards to the DC position for this team to keep moving forward positively.
Pelini is from Youngstown. He is a graduate of Cardinal Mooney High School.
Based on the two (2) audio tape leaks, I would highly-doubt he would be hired here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Pelini
 
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Mr Schwump

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Exactly. UK has beaten 3 teams and none of them are good. Vandy and SC have awful offenses. Some are acting as if we stopped the Florida teams under Spurrier. UT and UGA will show, IMO, if the defense is capable of stopping a good offense.

UK's responsibility is to win the game vs who they play. If the three teams are not good that's not UK's fault.
 
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brianpoe

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UK's responsibility is to win the game vs who they play. If the three teams are not good that's not UK's fault.


That is a true statement.

That said, when we still to need win 3 more and the level of play against the poor competition is lacking then it is ok to be concerned and discuss the performance on the field and the coaching.
 
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willievic

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I'm cool with CS being the DC as long as HE is the one making the play calls. but I have a feeling like he'll turn the reigns back over to D.J. after the season is over and we'll end up back in the same boat again. I also agree that we won't find a better DC than CS. He was one of the top DC's in the nation when he took the job, but it looks like the pressure of being the HC and the DC may be taking a toll on him and he may not want to do that again next season.

rabid cat, I don't think Coach Stoops is going to turn the reigns 100% back to
DJ. He can not afford to, since his job depends on it. I do think he will let Eliot keep the title of DC, but run the program very much as it has the last 3 games.
They are friends, and he will cover up for Eliot as best he can. Let me ask you something, "If your job depended on certain actions, and you were the best at doing it, would you designate it to someone else? I know I wouldn't!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

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still too early to count chickens, IMO. Things are better now. If we lose to Mississippi State, or Missouri, for example, really makes getting to a bowl a far fetched scenario. In which case everyone jumps off the wagon, and the stands are empty. I've said it before - I think the win/loss record is important to Stoops future, but probably second to attendance.

We get to the end of the season and the stands look like they did for Joker's last game, all bets are off.....
So if we dont go to a bowl game the stands will be empty? Then UK footaball fans suck. Period.
 

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Let me ask you something, "If your job depended on certain actions, and you were the best at doing it, would you designate it to someone else? I know I wouldn't!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

Would I designate the job to someone else if my job depended on it? NO, but if I was in "I couldn't give a $h!t mode" and had the kind of buyout that CS has, I might just do it. Most of us don't have the luxury of a $12 million dollar buyout looming over the heads of our employers and CS seems to be just pissed enough at the fan-base right now that he may have that "I don't give a crap" mentality. My guess is that after the season, he may revert back to allowing DJ to make the play calls purely out of spite, especially if it doesn't look like we are going to have a good/great season.
 

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Agree. I'm chalking it up to theatrics. Damage control to cool Stoops seat a bit. Look, Our D has been getting blown up since Stoops/Eliot got here. If this year ends up in the ******* like most suspect, Eliot will get the blame and large percentage of the fans will fall for it hook, line, and sinker and all we will hear is next year, next year....Its been UK football song and dance for years.

If you can't see the clear difference in not only how the D has looked but how it has functioned on multiple levels then I don't think you know much about football.

A big component of the D Coordinator is making the calls and dealing with player rotations. That has clearly been a BIG issue that has been resolved since Stoops started handling both of those duties during games. I lost ALL faith in Elliot when we basically played the same 3 downlinemen the entire game against USM and couldn't stop the same running plays run over and over again. His excuses after the game that they had to show it in practice even to give breather reps was beyond inexcusable as the other team marched up and down the field. Add that to the fact the defensive play calling seems much more creative with lots of timely blitzes. I haven't seen players looking to the sidelines with there hands in the air looking for a call since Stoops took over. That was an every game occurance with Elliot calling the plays.
 

BlueRunner11

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If you can't see the clear difference in not only how the D has looked but how it has functioned on multiple levels then I don't think you know much about football.

A big component of the D Coordinator is making the calls and dealing with player rotations. That has clearly been a BIG issue that has been resolved since Stoops started handling both of those duties during games. I lost ALL faith in Elliot when we basically played the same 3 downlinemen the entire game against USM and couldn't stop the same running plays run over and over again. His excuses after the game that they had to show it in practice even to give breather reps was beyond inexcusable as the other team marched up and down the field. Add that to the fact the defensive play calling seems much more creative with lots of timely blitzes. I haven't seen players looking to the sidelines with there hands in the air looking for a call since Stoops took over. That was an every game occurance with Elliot calling the plays.

The old "you don't know anything about football" because we disagree comment eh?

Anywho, the substitutions was a fair point but was corrected after the USM game and the D still looked horrid against UF and NMSU.

Stoops "took over the D" after the UF game and yet NMSU had no trouble scoring against us and neither did Bama, but of course that's Bama and they toyed with us a bit getting their young QB some passing reps in non passing situations.

And USCjr and Vandy have two of the most anemic offenses in ALL of college football so for me, the jury is still out on the D.

Let's reevaluate after facing some half way decent offenses and go from there shall we?
 

Beatle Bum

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Hinshaw and Gran are both assistants - that is how everyone does it.

That said, you are probably correct, not sure we can hire a better DC than Stoops.

Gran and Hinshaw have an approach and relationship that is not like every other OC and QB coach.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Defense looked good vs Bama and still allowed 34 pts. Everyone is going off the 2 games vs the worst SEC offenses/teams. Lets wait til the next few games to make judgements on this defense. Its impressive to hold a team to no TDs, dont get me wrong. But Vanderbilt has an unbelievably terrible offense.

Vandy has failed to score more than 1 TD vs P5 opponents this season. And USCjr has on 2 occasions, and both occasions a TD was scored in the 4th when the game was pretty much over. And no team has scored more than 2 TDs vs p5 schools. Ill wait til we play some offenses. JMHO

Defense did not allow 34 points to Bama.
 
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brianpoe

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Gran and Hinshaw have an approach and relationship that is not like every other OC and QB coach.


I was responding to another message that used them as an example - but my point was more the assistant protocol:

OC on field - QB coach in box. Assistant to assistant. That is how 99% of teams do it.

Versus Head Coach on field handling the entire defense and Defensive Coordinator in box.

The HC has a lot to do, that is why they usually have coordinators. Not that it hasn't been done or that we couldn't do it.

We had best keep it like it is with the way the boys are playing on defense.
 

Beatle Bum

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Vandy had scored 10,7, 6 against other P5 opponent. South Carolina between 10-14 and their season high is only 20 against E. Carolina . I'm not saying it's not improved. Just hard to make accurate judgements on those two games. Those offenses as bad as any in America.

Is Chavis a good DC? Does TAMU have a good defense? You don't have to play the best offenses to assess improvement in a defense.
 

brianpoe

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Defense did not allow 34 points to Bama.


The defense played a very good team about as well as they could.

I am one of those that do not believe Bama took us too seriously, very questionable play calling and player substitutions, ect. And especially after watching the Arkansas game.

That said it was still Alabama, with the best players and coaches in America, and our offense put our D in bad spots. We played hard and did not lay down like we did in Florida.

Losing by 4 TDs is tough to find many positives but I certainly can attest to the energy level and effort. I think that game helped us more than it hurt.
 

Beatle Bum

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I was responding to another message that used them as an example - but my point was more the assistant protocol:

OC on field - QB coach in box. Assistant to assistant. That is how 99% of teams do it.

Versus Head Coach on field handling the entire defense and Defensive Coordinator in box.

The HC has a lot to do, that is why they usually have coordinators. Not that it hasn't been done or that we couldn't do it.

We had best keep it like it is with the way the boys are playing on defense.

And I am saying it is a good analogy. Many DCs sit in the booth. In this case, our DC is on the field with eyes in the sky that are on his same page and understand his approach. Not every team has that successfully. And that was not how UK was doing it previously.

And, many HCs retain the duties they had as coordinators. Many. More today than we used to see, by my observation. Some guys like Richt and Stoops are leaning back to that and are having success. Others, like Fischer and Harbaugh and Petrino, never really gave up control.
 
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Elliot needs to be re-assigned to just coaching DE's.

Brumbaugh and Schlarmann both needed to be fired LAST YEAR. Brumbaugh was only brought in to help with recruiting Zedarius Smith, so keeping him made no real sense.

I had high hopes for Schlarmann, especially since he played here.

Jeff Graves will likely be out of a job at the end of the year (LSU) and imo is one of (if not the) best O-Line coaches in the country.
 

Beatle Bum

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I don't think many people complain about Bobby Petrino's OC. This new approach between Stoops and Eliot seems to have potential. Especially with the young talent on the defensive side of the ball. No need to mess with it if it keeps working.
 
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