FB Recruiting D-II All-American WR JaQuae Jackson commits to Rutgers Football

GoodOl'Rutgers

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will be interesting to see what he does against Big Ten DBs... but, obviously, he can catch and must run decent routes to get all those targets... but can he get open in the Big Ten? Since defenses will not honor the pass until we prove we are a threat there.. he will have his opportunities vs man coverage and no help. He needs to grab those balls up for grabs.
 

angmo

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will be interesting to see what he does against Big Ten DBs... but, obviously, he can catch and must run decent routes to get all those targets... but can he get open in the Big Ten? Since defenses will not honor the pass until we prove we are a threat there.. he will have his opportunities vs man coverage and no help. He needs to grab those balls up for grabs.
He may need to add a few lbs. But looks like a stud. Good height.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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will be interesting to see what he does against Big Ten DBs... but, obviously, he can catch and must run decent routes to get all those targets... but can he get open in the Big Ten? Since defenses will not honor the pass until we prove we are a threat there.. he will have his opportunities vs man coverage and no help. He needs to grab those balls up for grabs.
It will be interesting to see if whoever the starting QB is can throw passes that are somewhere in his vicinity.
 

Knight Shift

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And QB would have more time if he were a legit threat... chicken and egg stuff going on here
Would we agree, however, that in year 4, it's on the head coach to ensure all of the things should be in place or in much better shape than we saw in years 1-3. He has had 4 years to (1) recruit; (2) develop; (3) use the portal (4) coach up the OL, TE, WR, QBs.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Would we agree, however, that in year 4, it's on the head coach to ensure all of the things should be in place or in much better shape than we saw in years 1-3. He has had 4 years to (1) recruit; (2) develop; (3) use the portal (4) coach up the OL, TE, WR, QBs.
I think we have had some real bad situations on offense... disparate levels of talent and abilities and experience all over the place along with suspect coaching.

What I mean is... if we had even average talent across the board with experienced players who got coached up to execute key plays... then the offense.. and team overall.. would be a lot better.

- The QBs job is harder with inexperienced WRs regardless of talent

- The WRs jobs are harder when the QB can't make all the throws and cannot "throw them open" because of a vision thing mismatch.

- The OLs job is harder when a D perceives little threat from the pass. They can play as wild as they like, send as many blitzers as they like from all over the front 7.. let the DBs play man.

- and when the passing game in nonexistent.. the running game is always seeing more defenders than can be blocked.

Even an average offense that can execute quick slants and seam routes vs man and screens would make all offensive players' jobs easier.

From all the talk about spring practice and the Ciarocca's style.. I am hopeful.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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Would we agree, however, that in year 4, it's on the head coach to ensure all of the things should be in place or in much better shape than we saw in years 1-3. He has had 4 years to (1) recruit; (2) develop; (3) use the portal (4) coach up the OL, TE, WR, QBs.
The failed Gleeson, Campinale and Hoffman coaching experiments set this program back.
 
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will be interesting to see what he does against Big Ten DBs... but, obviously, he can catch and must run decent routes to get all those targets... but can he get open in the Big Ten? Since defenses will not honor the pass until we prove we are a threat there.. he will have his opportunities vs man coverage and no help. He needs to grab those balls up for grabs.

He’s got size, speed, and physicality. He’ll be fine.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Would we agree, however, that in year 4, it's on the head coach to ensure all of the things should be in place or in much better shape than we saw in years 1-3. He has had 4 years to (1) recruit; (2) develop; (3) use the portal (4) coach up the OL, TE, WR, QBs.

Sorry - sounds like an excuse for Wimsatt to me. The OL hasn’t been good, but Wimsatt’s accuracy compared to Vedral’s from the prior season with an even weaker line tells what you need to know. And Vedral was barely serviceable so that tells all you need to know. If his accuracy doesn’t improve consistently - All the time in the world won’t help Wimsatt. The only caveat could be if he’s an amazing runner but we really haven’t seen that so far either. This year has to be make or break for Wimsatt. I know he came in with a lot of hype but so far that hasn’t translated to results and. I don’t think you can blame the line when other less touted QBs around him have been better with similar pr worse supporting casts. Hopefully he takes strides this season.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Sorry - sounds like an excuse for Wimsatt to me. The OL hasn’t been good, but Wimsatt’s accuracy compared to Vedral’s from the prior season with an even weaker line tells what you need to know. And Vedral was barely serviceable so that tells all you need to know. If his accuracy doesn’t improve consistently - All the time in the world won’t help Wimsatt. The only caveat could be if he’s an amazing runner but we really haven’t seen that so far either. This year has to be make or break for Wimsatt. I know he came in with a lot of hype but so far that hasn’t translated to results and. I don’t think you can blame the line when other less touted QBs around him have been better with similar pr worse supporting casts. Hopefully he takes strides this season.
You ain't really watching if you found Vedral more accurate. Wimsatt had little experience and was asked to do more.. because he was capable of so much more.

Vedral was a warrior.. but was not a legit QB. We would have been much better off if we were forced to stick with Sitkowski... who was still learning and could make all the throws. SItkowski could have been fixed to being serviceable.

Wimsatt will get his chance to shine and I hope we have a gameplan to keep him healthy.

Tell you what... if we don't have a screen pass that we can actually execute 95% of the time we call it... then I am open to agreeing with criticizing everyone at every level of this organization. Clean house.

That's the one play we need to help keep defenses honest and give our OL a better chance to succeed at pass blocking. SO if we cannot do that.... sheesh (and, yes, we haven't been able to do that.. even experienced Vedral couldn't do it.. how pathetic was that?).
 

mdk02

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Sitkowski? Not behind that OL. Both Vedral and
Winsatt, whatever their other shortcomings, are more mobile.
 
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Knight Shift

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Who hired them and who was in charge? Gleeson had a steady career progression until his RU stop.
that is very debatable. I'm not taking a shot at Gleeson. Ivy league to running Mike Gundy's established Air Raid offense for one year is career progression?

Also, results were very mixed:

"Gleeson in his first season as offensive coordinator had mixed results. The shining part of it was the 2,094-yard rushing season for Chuba Hubbard, who was a unanimous All-American at running back. The offense hummed through the first eight games averaging 37.5 points per game, 241.6-yards passing, 263.5-yards a game rushing, and total offense of 505.1-yards a game total offense.

The final five games of the season, without the injured Tylan Wallace at wide receiver, Oklahoma State averaged 24.4 points a game, 196.6-yards per game passing, 175.4-yards a game on the ground, with total offense of 372.0-yards a game. That is a reduction in 26.4 percent of total offense and 35 percent in points during those last five games.

The offense also suffered some after the loss of quarterback Spencer Sanders in the Kansas game, but did beat West Virginia before losing to Oklahoma and Texas A&M.

In the bowl game the Cowboys scored 21 points and had just 334-yards of total offense against Texas A&M. "

 

PSAL_Hoops

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You ain't really watching if you found Vedral more accurate. Wimsatt had little experience and was asked to do more.. because he was capable of so much more.

Vedral was a warrior.. but was not a legit QB. We would have been much better off if we were forced to stick with Sitkowski... who was still learning and could make all the throws. SItkowski could have been fixed to being serviceable.

Wimsatt will get his chance to shine and I hope we have a gameplan to keep him healthy.

Tell you what... if we don't have a screen pass that we can actually execute 95% of the time we call it... then I am open to agreeing with criticizing everyone at every level of this organization. Clean house.

That's the one play we need to help keep defenses honest and give our OL a better chance to succeed at pass blocking. SO if we cannot do that.... sheesh (and, yes, we haven't been able to do that.. even experienced Vedral couldn't do it.. how pathetic was that?).
Last year Vedral played hurt, dude. I’m talking about Vedral from the prior season. That version of Vedral is 100 times more accurate than Wimsatt to date. Maybe less talented. Definitely weaker arm. But much more reliable in the short and medium game. Not even close.
 

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Who hired them and who was in charge? Gleeson had a steady career progression until his RU stop.
His progression stopped at RU because unlike the coaches at Princeton and Oklahoma State, Schiano has never prioritized modern offense in a big way. He's more interested in the concept of modern offense than its actual implementation and execution, so he's meddling to the point that an inept half-assed version of these whiz kid offenses is getting trotted out every week. I think that's one reason that Gleeson flamed out here. Most good coaches know that you aren't going to be a 10 win team winning 20-17 rock fights the way football is played now. They also know that it's not enough to line up in the same formations that other teams do, your players have to understand the fundamentals of what you're trying to do, and the fundamentals need to be taught. That hasn't been happening. I hope it changes.
 
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Pils86

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that is very debatable. I'm not taking a shot at Gleeson. Ivy league to running Mike Gundy's established Air Raid offense for one year is career progression?

Also, results were very mixed:

"Gleeson in his first season as offensive coordinator had mixed results. The shining part of it was the 2,094-yard rushing season for Chuba Hubbard, who was a unanimous All-American at running back. The offense hummed through the first eight games averaging 37.5 points per game, 241.6-yards passing, 263.5-yards a game rushing, and total offense of 505.1-yards a game total offense.

The final five games of the season, without the injured Tylan Wallace at wide receiver, Oklahoma State averaged 24.4 points a game, 196.6-yards per game passing, 175.4-yards a game on the ground, with total offense of 372.0-yards a game. That is a reduction in 26.4 percent of total offense and 35 percent in points during those last five games.

The offense also suffered some after the loss of quarterback Spencer Sanders in the Kansas game, but did beat West Virginia before losing to Oklahoma and Texas A&M.

In the bowl game the Cowboys scored 21 points and had just 334-yards of total offense against Texas A&M. "

I think he is only about 40 years old, all his previous stops were promotions, having two P5 OC jobs by that time is impressive to me.
 
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