A Solid running game and Deep O-Line can take you a long way. I forgot to mention Eddie Gran and Coach Stoops coaching their respective sides of the ball, which has done wonders for the team.
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A Solid running game and Deep O-Line can take you a long way. I forgot to mention Eddie Gran and Coach Stoops coaching their respective sides of the ball, which has done wonders for the team.
10 years from anything is an utterly ridiculous take. Nothing you have to say is even worth listening to from that statement forward. As far as Coach Gran and Coach Hinshaw are concerned, I don't think they are going anywhere. What makes you think they will? They certainly aren't being run off.
I thought you brought up 9, 10 wins a year? If losing a coach because of those types of seasons is a problem that we have, I'll take it.
I didn't bring up winning 9 or 10 wins a year I was responding to someone else's reply about winning that many games. If it did happen how many times do you think Barnhart could keep replacing coaches after coaches.
Remember, Kentucky is playing less than 10 seniors this year
As long as we get a bowl game I'm happy with him. At this point, I don't believe he should be fired unless he loses out including AP. If he wins 6-7 with almost everything coming back, I'm not sure why you would not be happy.
This team is in second place in the east. It's like some fans are watching the team win these games but stick to their agendas anyways. 3 sec games left and in the hunt for Atlanta. Mizzou is a toss up. Georgia is now winnable and Tennessee is pretty banged up. Meanwhile we're getting better every week and our own fan base is in denial because they can't stand being wrong. Stoops is getting it done give the guy credit where it's due! This team coulda quit when the fans hung them out to dry but they didn't and I'm proud of them for it. It started in the bama game... no quit in them since! So get on the train or get off the tracks.
I don't care if the SEC east is weaker than usual. Winning games builds momentum in the program and helps recruiting if they make a bowl. The flip side to that is I'm still not convinced Stoops is the answer- however, if he could manage to win the next two games, UK could be playing UT for a date in Atlanta. I will take that no matter who the coach is or how weak the East is perceived.
I was wondering the same about your post. Everything you were asking for is exactly where this team is at right now lol
Ok. Sounded like you were arguing with me. If we agree, then why would you say I have an agenda?
And no, we aren't there yet. Win Saturday and we will be.
We are on the up. Enjoy!! Stoops seems to be getting better. Good recruiter. Actually great for U.K. Kids seem to love him and he them. Just keep on the upswing and I'm good with it all.
How many coaches has UK had that has won that many games on a regular basis. I'll say not many so why do we think CMS should be able to do it.
This is realistic. I think we have a lot of fans who think we should be cranking out 9-10 wins a year all of a sudden, evendors after 4 yrs...those are long term program building goals. When your a cellar dweller for your entire history that takes time. That's not accepting mediocrity, that's reality. But I believe what you posted should be expected.
Just remind them that the joke is on them because they still have Petrino as their coach! No matter what he does at Louisville, it won't change his history and the lives he damaged or ruined in his wake! By the way, has he reached out to those people or has he apologized to them for what he did to them? Ask Mike Zimmer (Minnesota Viking head coach) about what he thinks about Petrino and why he feels that way! I'm just glad Mitch Barnhart did not hire him when he had the chance. He would have been a nightmare for Mitch Barnhart and Sandy Bell to deal with! You know what the irony is? The same Louisville fans that are enjoying Petrino's success at Louisville (this time around) would have been the same fans that would have criticized Kentucky had Kentucky hired him. What hypocrisy!
I don't get it. Believe me, I saw what happened in the first few games too so I understand the lingering frustration and hangover from that. But most people said they wanted a bowl game this year. Now we have that opportunity at our fingertips and people are saying if we make it that it's fools gold. With the holes on this team and a backup qb with no division one experience, while still having a very possible shot at a bowl game, it's difficult for me to actually believe stoops could have done anything to win some fans over. And to be honest, i don't really care. If we go to a bowl, you all can act like he still sucks and whine and moan all you want. It's not gonna steal my joy. If he doesn't go to a bowl, then fine, people will have various opinions and I'll respect that. But be happy for the team for once, regardless of what you think of stoops and relax the negativity until we lose a game instead of after we win one.
I don't think any real fan actually wants us to lose just to be able to say "i told you so". I've been super vocal about my feelings for Stoops...But I don't feel that way at all.
I just don't believe a defensive minded head coach can get it done at UK in the long run.
The the and of the day, every good season said coach is going to lose his offensive coordiator.
Brooks made it work but he had an OC that played here (Joker) who likely wasn't going to get poached by another program very easily.
Stoops will likely never have that. My guess is if the offense continues to progress he'll lose Gran at the end of the season. Then all it takes is one bad OC hire and we are right back being a 2 or 3 win team again.
This is why having an offensive HC who calls his own plays is such a HUGE advantage for smaller schools. As long as the HC doesn't leave you know the offense is taken care of every year.
I just don't believe a defensive minded head coach can get it done at UK in the long run.
The the and of the day, every good season said coach is going to lose his offensive coordiator.
Brooks made it work but he had an OC that played here (Joker) who likely wasn't going to get poached by another program very easily.
Stoops will likely never have that. My guess is if the offense continues to progress he'll lose Gran at the end of the season. Then all it takes is one bad OC hire and we are right back being a 2 or 3 win team again.
This is why having an offensive HC who calls his own plays is such a HUGE advantage for smaller schools. As long as the HC doesn't leave you know the offense is taken care of every year.
How many 9-10 wins/yr SEC coaches left voluntarily? Me, a 9-10 wins coach could stay till death.
Bowl eligibility after not being in one for years, should! UK fans have a good shot at bowl eligibility but are so negative. WOW!!!
That's my point. It is too long of cycle to winning selection. Let's ride this season out with a smile. Some here will be mad that they were wrong.
I 1st need to know what planet you are on. A team that hasn't been to bowl in five years on earth (aka:3rd rock from the sun).
I was referring to the time frame it takes to go thru another coach before we fans(?) scream to dump him. A good coach at UK also retired (that fans here wanted gone) but the time taken to move the replacement out was long. I hate those long build ups. Very tedious with no joy in mudville.
Last Sat nite there was Joy in Mudville. Why would you want to start over?
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It doesn't buy 2 more years. It buys 1 more year. If we win 6 this year, and implode the next year, he's gone.
The jury is still out on the upward trajectory in my mind. I said last year the OU on wins this year was 4 1/2. Get to 6 wins before the UL game AND give the Cards a tough game, then I'll believe there has been progress.
As a UK fan, I want to compete for the east every 3 years or so, with no worse than 7 wins when we aren't. I want to see some 9 and 10 win seasons when we have junior/senior teams. This is around where South Carolina was with Spurrier.
If that's too much to ask, then we have some horrible expectations as a fan base.
So I ask you, in text format, R U SIRRUS?
If all you are expecting is .500 season, then we are in big trouble.
If stoops doesn't have some signature wins and an 8 win season by year 5 (9 total) with bowl win, then he's not what we need, period.
Barnhart has the luxury of what I call "network" bowl games. .500 season and he can have a bowl. No other AD has had HIS recourses, MILLIONS in SEC/NIKE/ESPN deals, and the ability to NOT have a winning season and still get a bowl. Don't let it fool you.
I know this thread is intended to be sarcastic, but I'm fully back on board the Stoops train now. Yeah there have been errors in judgement that have probably cost us a win or two, but the man can recruit, the man can coach the D, and the man can motivate and right now thats working for us. Not to mention that the man has won his 5th ball game for the 3rd year in a row. Not bad by UK standards. Now he just needs to win (at least) one more. Hopefully a few more though.
This thread is funny in a couple ways:
1) It's a serious thought process for a few. I can think of a couple that are probably a little pissed that the team in all likely-hood will be going bowling, because that keeps them from getting the high character Art Briles, or the the always reliable and trustworthy Bobby Petrino.
2) This same group of people have used Tennessee as a reason to ***** and complain about Stoops. How things going down in Knoxville right now? :joy:
Slow and steady is much more solid than quick and loose. It may not be pretty or as quick as some would like, but it's a much more solid foundation.
1) It's a serious thought process for a few. I can think of a couple that are probably a little pissed that the team in all likely-hood will be going bowling, because that keeps them from getting the high character Art Briles, or the the always reliable and trustworthy Bobby Petrino.
2) This same group of people have used Tennessee as a reason to ***** and complain about Stoops. How things going down in Knoxville right now? :joy:
Slow and steady is much more solid than quick and loose. It may not be pretty or as quick as some would like, but it's a much more solid foundation.
Yep, now we have some who think if he doesn't win 8 games next year he should be fired.
Just look at the depth of talent on the roster, in particular the offensive line. You want to know why the offense is so much improved? There's your answer.
It's tough to consistently win 8 or 9 games in the SEC, who else is doing it? But Stoops is building a program that can compete year in and year out.
I know, man. Some people don't look at anything other than "well we won 6-7 this year so next year has to be more". They don't stop to look at the schedule and the rosters of those we are playing as well as ours. I don't expect it to be an easy or perfect process with no setbacks, but I expect in 5 years we are in a much more stable position than we have been or are currently. I think by that time a "bad" year at UK will be 5-6 losses, not 2-4.