First American Pope.....Ever!....
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Now if he will just lay his thumb on the scale for O'Connor to put on that maroon cap all will be right in the world
Villanova's NIL just went through the roof
He is expected to continue the work of Francis. Trump won't be happy with that.
All tariffs on the Vatican lifted.
Now the graphic with Trump as Pope makes more sense. He had a suspicion that it was going to be an American pope.
Now the graphic with Trump as Pope makes more sense. He had a suspicion that it was going to be an American pope.
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Rod Blagojevich better take credit for this before trumpf does!!
I wonder how much NIL money he got and if his agent held out for more or if the Cardinals made a good offer to begin with?**
Maybe Fr. Burke Masters can be the second American Pope
Television analysts are saying he doesn't align on everything Francis was about. On a lot things yes, but quite a few, no. I guess we'll see. Being from Chicago, I would suspect more of a liberal leaning, but who really knows.
Really hope he has Francis's attitude towards meeting people where they are and making sure they feel welcomed as they are but without the borderline if not outright heresies.
My wife gets really made at me for asking "Does a bear **** in the woods?" in social settings, so it would be really nice if I could go back to the "Is the Pope Catholic?" option and people be able to know the answer is yes.
It's literally impossible for a pope to commit heresy.
It's like saying an umpire is wrong on something that is explicitly a "judgment call."
Think you're incorrect on this one. Not everything the pope says is ex cathedra and it is not a dogmatic belief that the holy spirit prevents the Pope from making heretical statements. I do think it's a pretty common belief among catholics that the holy spirit prevents the Pope from making heretical statements, even if it doesn't prevent the pope from sinning. But if you look at most of the allegations of heresy by Pope's, they seem to always involve statements that can be interpreted in a way that is not heretical. But I don't think it's a requirement to be Catholic to believe it's impossible to be otherwise, as opposed to reflecting the fact that Pope's know when they are flirting with heresy and are not going to make a statement that is completely indefensible.
I wouldn't be willing to bet a lot of money on that and I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it.
Yep, yesterday he was a mere mortal. But now that he received the most votes, he is suddenly infallible.
I was being a bit cheeky on purpose, but I don't think "heresy" is the right term if a pope says something wrong, since only the Church hierarchy itself can determine something to be heretical.
You are correct. The Pope is only considered infallible, or speaking 'ex cathedra', on official teachings of the Church and specific faith and moral issues. The Pope is not immune from human error.
Just read how fantastical that all sounds. If you could find an adult that knew absolutely nothing of God or religion in general, you could never convince them of any of this. It's why you have to indoctrinate believers from a young age. And don't argue that adults convert all the time; they have still grown up in a society where it has been around them their entire life and they know all about it - they just never embraced it. Clearly, I have no idea if any of it is real, hopefully it is, but what has always amazed me is that very smart, logical and reasonable people talk about these supernatural things as though they are fact. It's the one thing where critical thinking skills have to be completely suspended, despite applying those critical thinking skills in every other facet of their lives. I sit in mass and just look around the room in amazement that none of these people, who I know well, question any of it. I get that's why it's called faith, but still...
He's not 'infallible', as I said above, but if you are Catholic and believe that he was divinely appointed (meaning the voters were led by God to elect the right man), it's not such a stretch that he can now speak on Holy issues with some certainty. Abraham got anointed the Father of the Nation in a day. David got chosen as King in a day. Peter was chosen as 'the Rock who the church was built on' by Jesus on one certain day. I could go on, but you get the point.
This Pope is gonna be even "Woker" than Pope Francis. He spent years posting criticism of Trump. Took a year off in 2024 and started back up in 2025 with at least a half dozen criticisms of the Trump administration.
Even criticized Trump's boooming economy.
Not gonna end well.
Even criticized Trump's boooming economy.
Not gonna end well.
Some people are reporting that he has spent a lot of time defending the rights of the unborn, so he's supposedly (I would hope so, being a Catholic priest and all) staunchly anti-abortion. So personally I would put that in the 'pro' column. We'll see on the rest. I would hope he doesn't believe the same as Francis on open borders, but the Pope's view on that from the Vatican doesn't directly affect US policy in that regard.
I don’t keep up with pope commentary, but was he pro-open border while living in a walled city? Just curious
Vatican City literally has open borders. Anyone can walk into it from Italy without being stopped or showing identification.