Football Football Declaration List (Updated 11/4)
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I agree. The community was pretty split. Now that there is a new school in Tekamah it seems like that ship has sailed.
With the changes coming to 8 man next year... 32 largest teams in D1, the rest split evenly between D2 and D3. Does anyone know, does that 32 count include the ineligible teams that opt down? Or is it the 32 largest eligible teams in 8-man, plus the ineligible teams that choose to opt down?
I would assume the 32 excludes those teams that opted down and are ineligible but I'm not 100% certain. In C1/C2, they don't make the split until the ineligible teams are taken out.
So if 12 teams opt down. The playoffs will be 16 of 20 in that class?
I’ve always felt ineligible 8 man teams should play in their own district against only ineligible teams so they don’t impact points to teams who can advance to the playoffs.
At the very least the teams who play the ineligible teams should get the bonus points
Just put them in one district and let them play each other. Might reduce the amount of teams opting down if they have to drive several hours to play a regular season game.
I was looking at some of the teams schedules this year and a few teams played 4 teams that opted down or had the 2 year grace period, how is that right, shouldn't there be a limit of only playing one of these teams. I agree with the comments above put them in a district together or at the very least bonus points should be given, total joke playing teams in 8 man football that should be C2 or C1.
The challenge in putting them all in one district would be that we allow the mid-cycle reclassification. If you put them all in one district, we'd have to do away with that. I think a couple of D1 teams this year are eligible that weren't last year. I believe both Alma and Twin River fit into this category.
I'd be all for capping the opt-down and 2-year exemption with a maximum number. For next cycle, I'd probably put it at 60. Anybody more than 5 over the eligibility count of 55 shouldn't be allowed to opt down or to receive a 2-year exemption status. Teams like David City (73) and Johnson County Central (70) wouldn't be allowed to opt down as they were this year, and teams like Bridgeport (73) wouldn't be allowed to receive their 2-year exemption status and be forced to play 11 man in a system like that.
I'd be all for capping the opt-down and 2-year exemption with a maximum number. For next cycle, I'd probably put it at 60. Anybody more than 5 over the eligibility count of 55 shouldn't be allowed to opt down or to receive a 2-year exemption status. Teams like David City (73) and Johnson County Central (70) wouldn't be allowed to opt down as they were this year, and teams like Bridgeport (73) wouldn't be allowed to receive their 2-year exemption status and be forced to play 11 man in a system like that.
Updated on Oct. 15 with the following additions:
11-Man
Blair
Bridgeport
Gretna East
Lexington
Lincoln Northeast
Lincoln Standing Bear (Opt Class A)
Millard West
Minden
Norfolk Catholic
Norris
Omaha Bryan
Omaha Burke
Omaha Gross
Omaha Skutt
Ralston
South Sioux City
8-Man
Boyd County
Bruning-Davenport/Shickley
Centura
Conestoga
Deshler
East Butler
Elmwood-Murdock
Franklin
Hitchcock County
Loomis
Maxwell
Stanton
Winside (Opt Class D3)
6-Man
Arthur County
Banner County
Grand Island Lutheran
McCool Junction
Non-NSAA
Winnebago
11-Man
Blair
Bridgeport
Gretna East
Lexington
Lincoln Northeast
Lincoln Standing Bear (Opt Class A)
Millard West
Minden
Norfolk Catholic
Norris
Omaha Bryan
Omaha Burke
Omaha Gross
Omaha Skutt
Ralston
South Sioux City
8-Man
Boyd County
Bruning-Davenport/Shickley
Centura
Conestoga
Deshler
East Butler
Elmwood-Murdock
Franklin
Hitchcock County
Loomis
Maxwell
Stanton
Winside (Opt Class D3)
6-Man
Arthur County
Banner County
Grand Island Lutheran
McCool Junction
Non-NSAA
Winnebago
The classification changes are starting to pick up more this time.
- Centura: 11 to 8 man
- Conestoga: 11 to 8 man
- Bridgeport: 8 to 11 man
- McCool Junction: 8 to 6 man
- Oakland-Craig: 11 to 8 man
- Tekamah-Herman: 11 to 8 man
Could be 10+ dropping from 11 man to 8 man. Might be a few that go up to 11 man to 8 man like Bridgeport is doing. Going to be a crazy few months while this gets settled.
any idea when they will release enrollment numbers?
If I understand it correctly, I believe these numbers have already been sent into the Dept. of Education, but I'm not sure when they become public.
Logan View decides to end the football co-op with Scribner-Snyder
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Logan View and Scribner-Snyder to no longer Co-op in Football after this season
Logan View and Scribner-Snyder’s Football Co-op will end after this season. The following is a statement from Scribner-Snyder Superintendent Mrs. Kate Chrisman. “Recently…
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Good call for LV. Should put them back at the top of enrollment for C2 instead of being in C1.Logan View decides to end the football co-op with Scribner-Snyder
Logan View and Scribner-Snyder to no longer Co-op in Football after this season
Logan View and Scribner-Snyder’s Football Co-op will end after this season. The following is a statement from Scribner-Snyder Superintendent Mrs. Kate Chrisman. “Recently…
That definitely puts Logan View down in the C2 realm. Same reason Boone Central dropped Newman Grove. Rough for Scribner-Snyder. Not sure they'd find a co-op partner in the area. Also not sure how many kids from S-S played or were going to play football for that co-op.
The enrollment numbers were taken October 1. The NSAA will release classifications in late November or early December, then schools have to turn in their "wish lists" for non-district games prior to Christmas (usually). NSAA works on schedules in late December and early January, then releases them early February. I think this coming year schedules are released February 11.
S-S had 3-5 kids on the roster this year. They hardly have kids left. Doesn’t make sense for LV to keep them in my opinion.
At the most recent NSAA Board meeting, the NSAA approved competitive equity waviers for the following schools. Which I assume to mean they will be allowed to opt down in classification and remain postseason eligible:
Alliance
Humboldt-Table Rock-Steinauer
Madison
Morrill
Omaha Nation
Schuyler
Southern Valley
Tekamah-Herman
Wakefield
Alliance
Humboldt-Table Rock-Steinauer
Madison
Morrill
Omaha Nation
Schuyler
Southern Valley
Tekamah-Herman
Wakefield
Updated on Oct. 20 with the following additions:
11-Man
Wilber-Clatonia
8-Man
Cross County
Heartland / Hampton
Johnson County Central
Ponca
Sandy Creek
6-Man
Harvard
Riverside / Spalding Academy
(Riverside/Spalding Academy was listed as a declared 8-man team, but now are listed in the 6-man declarations)
11-Man
Wilber-Clatonia
8-Man
Cross County
Heartland / Hampton
Johnson County Central
Ponca
Sandy Creek
6-Man
Harvard
Riverside / Spalding Academy
(Riverside/Spalding Academy was listed as a declared 8-man team, but now are listed in the 6-man declarations)
I was curious about that as well. They fit in well there competitively, but it is a lot of travel.
H&H (Heartland/Hampton) are actually going to be 11-man. It was entered in wrong orginally on the NSAA site, but has been updated.
The NSAA has made a second update on their 10/20 update:
11-Man
H & H (Heartland / Hampton) (moved from 8-man to 11-man)
Raymond Central
Schuyler
6-Man
Medicine Valley
Wallace
Non-NSAA
Walthill
I don't know if Walthill is dropping football or will also be joining the All-Nations League
| Team | Classification Change |
|---|---|
| Cross County | 11-Man to 8-Man |
| Ponca | 11-Man to 8-Man |
| Oakland-Craig | 11-Man to 8-Man |
| Tekamah-Herman | 11-Man to 8-Man |
| Centura | 11-Man to 8-Man |
| Conestoga | 11-Man to 8-Man |
| Bridgeport | 8-Man to 11-Man |
| H&H (Heartland/Hampton) | Will be 11-Man (Heartland was 8-Man, Hampton was 6-Man) |
| McCool Junction | 8-Man to 6-Man |
| Riverside/Spalding Academy | 8-Man to 6-Man |
| Walthill | 8-Man to non-NSAA (TBD if joining All-Nations) |
Updated on 10/23 with the following additions
11-Man
Chase County (opt to C2)
Ogallala
Wayne
8-Man
Bertrand
David City Aquinas
Hyannis
Mullen
South Loup
6-Man
Morrill
Santee
11-Man
Chase County (opt to C2)
Ogallala
Wayne
8-Man
Bertrand
David City Aquinas
Hyannis
Mullen
South Loup
6-Man
Morrill
Santee
Few more changes. Aquinas officially goes to 8-Man, and Morrill transitions from 8 to 6-Man.
There is approximately 70 schools left to declare for 11, 8 or 6 man yet. If we stay true to the numbers roughly 30 will be 11 man, 30 will be 8 man and 10 will be 6 man. The classes are not split evenly. Class A will have 32 based off this year. Class B will have 25. That puts roughly 35 in class C1 and Class C2. D1 will have 32 teams set by new NSAA rule and rest will be split between D2 and D3 approximately 45 teams in a class. D6 will have 35. Is there any better way to split up classes to make them more even. I know Class A is looking at a different options. Idea: Class A be 24 teams, Class B be 24 teams. Class A and B play 9 reg season games and take 12 to playoffs first 4 get first round byes. Class C1 and C2 have next 36 schools in each class and take 16 teams to playoffs and play 9 reg games. 11 man would have 120 schools. D1, D2, and D3 split evenly between the 3 classes making each about 40 teams play 9 regular season games and take 16 teams to playoffs. D6 would play 8 regular season games and take 16 to playoffs. Thoughts about it.
I *think* the following is true.
Class A will have 36 (Existing 32 + Elkhorn North, Bennington, Standing Bear, and Lincoln Northwest).
Class B will have 23 (Existing 25 - Elkhorn North, Bennington, Standing Bear, and Lincoln Northwest, then + Aurora and Gross)
Class A will have 36 (Existing 32 + Elkhorn North, Bennington, Standing Bear, and Lincoln Northwest).
Class B will have 23 (Existing 25 - Elkhorn North, Bennington, Standing Bear, and Lincoln Northwest, then + Aurora and Gross)
They don't need to be even. They switched to enrollment numbers as a cutoff for a reason. The schools decided to classify more based on enrollment differential from top of bottom of class instead of just carving out equal number of teams in classes.
I believe D1 will have closer to 38-40 teams in it, 32 eligible teams plus the additional teams that choose to opt down and are ineligible.