Future of eligibility in college football

18IsTheMan

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In a previous thread on here, some speculated about a future in college football where players are no longer required to students, which seems to be an inevitability at this point.

That leads me to wonder about player eligibility limits, which are on the verge of being all but meaningless anyway with players having college careers approaching a decade. And if players are eventually no longer required to be students, I don't see how there could be eligibility requirements. However, I wonder if in certain situations, players who are very good college players but fringe NFL players will just stay and keep on playing with solid NIL deals.

There are tons of players who are very, very good college players but don't translate to the NFL for on reason or another. Players like this, in today's market, could have 7-figure NIL deals. For players like that, do you just stay in college and keep playing as opposed to having to try to crack into the NFL as a UDFA?

The risk of course, is that it would hurt recruiting if you had a player like a QB who was entrenched. But if you a known entity at QB who is very good, do you just go the NFL route and recruit back-up caliber QBs until the other player is ready to move on? It would be a major dynamic shift in college football, but there have been many of those already. If you had, for instance, a proven winner and competitor in Connor Shaw, who was a fringe NFL talent, do you just stick with a player who know will win games instead of rolling the dice on a new recruit? As a player, you can just stick around a few years more, make a million or so a year, which is better than you'd get as a late-round draft pick or UDFA.
 
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In a previous thread on here, some speculated about a future in college football where players are no longer required to students, which seems to be an inevitability at this point.

That leads me to wonder about player eligibility limits, which are on the verge of being all but meaningless anyway with players having college careers approaching a decade. And if players are eventually no longer required to be students, I don't see how there could be eligibility requirements. However, I wonder if in certain situations, players who are very good college players but fringe NFL players will just stay and keep on playing with solid NIL deals.

There are tons of players who are very, very good college players but don't translate to the NFL for on reason or another. Players like this, in today's market, could have 7-figure NIL deals. For players like that, do you just stay in college and keep playing as opposed to having to try to crack into the NFL as a UDFA?

The risk of course, is that it would hurt recruiting if you had a player like a QB who was entrenched. But if you a known entity at QB who is very good, do you just go the NFL route and recruit back-up caliber QBs until the other player is ready to move on? It would be a major dynamic shift in college football, but there have been many of those already. If you had, for instance, a proven winner and competitor in Connor Shaw, who was a fringe NFL talent, do you just stick with a player who know will win games instead of rolling the dice on a new recruit? As a player, you can just stick around a few years more, make a million or so a year, which is better than you'd get as a late-round draft pick or UDFA.
Didn't Spencer Rattler stay the extra year for NIL money?
 

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I get a headache just thinking about it. You could have teams with 5 year starters across the board. And the transfer portal? Each year could be full of 22-27 year old players just wanting another year.
 
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In a previous thread on here, some speculated about a future in college football where players are no longer required to students, which seems to be an inevitability at this point.

That leads me to wonder about player eligibility limits, which are on the verge of being all but meaningless anyway with players having college careers approaching a decade. And if players are eventually no longer required to be students, I don't see how there could be eligibility requirements. However, I wonder if in certain situations, players who are very good college players but fringe NFL players will just stay and keep on playing with solid NIL deals.

There are tons of players who are very, very good college players but don't translate to the NFL for on reason or another. Players like this, in today's market, could have 7-figure NIL deals. For players like that, do you just stay in college and keep playing as opposed to having to try to crack into the NFL as a UDFA?

The risk of course, is that it would hurt recruiting if you had a player like a QB who was entrenched. But if you a known entity at QB who is very good, do you just go the NFL route and recruit back-up caliber QBs until the other player is ready to move on? It would be a major dynamic shift in college football, but there have been many of those already. If you had, for instance, a proven winner and competitor in Connor Shaw, who was a fringe NFL talent, do you just stick with a player who know will win games instead of rolling the dice on a new recruit? As a player, you can just stick around a few years more, make a million or so a year, which is better than you'd get as a late-round draft pick or UDFA.

College Football in it's present form is a joke until they cap team spending.

Any "add-ons" like what you've mentioned above only serve to expand that position.

The fact that anyone is still watching is a testament to how great the great once was and how bored a portion of society is.
 

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I mean, no eligibility requirements means NFL players will come back to "college" teams to be stars if it's not going well in the NFL.
I thought about that as well. Try for the draft and if you don't make it or get cut, you could drop back to college. What would there be to stop it? Plenty of college players not good enough for the NFL but are very, very good in college.

I guess with the erosion of college football, perhaps we're just witnessing the evolution of an NFL minor league.
 
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I thought about that as well. Try for the draft and if you don't make it or get cut, you could drop back to college. What would there be to stop it? Plenty of college players not good enough for the NFL but are very, very good in college.

I guess with the erosion of college football, perhaps we're just witnessing the evolution of an NFL minor league.
I don’t watch NFL so I know I won’t watch minor league NFL.
 
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I guess with the erosion of college football, perhaps we're just witnessing the evolution of an NFL minor league.
Except there isn't anything minor about it. When you are talking about rabid fanbases that fill 70K - 110K seat stadiums, playing games watched by millions on national TV, you're talking about entities with extraordinary revenue-generating capabilities. I don't know what it will look like, exactly, but it will be far beyond anything we've ever known a minor league to be.
 
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In a previous thread on here, some speculated about a future in college football where players are no longer required to students, which seems to be an inevitability at this point.

That leads me to wonder about player eligibility limits, which are on the verge of being all but meaningless anyway with players having college careers approaching a decade. And if players are eventually no longer required to be students, I don't see how there could be eligibility requirements. However, I wonder if in certain situations, players who are very good college players but fringe NFL players will just stay and keep on playing with solid NIL deals.

There are tons of players who are very, very good college players but don't translate to the NFL for on reason or another. Players like this, in today's market, could have 7-figure NIL deals. For players like that, do you just stay in college and keep playing as opposed to having to try to crack into the NFL as a UDFA?

The risk of course, is that it would hurt recruiting if you had a player like a QB who was entrenched. But if you a known entity at QB who is very good, do you just go the NFL route and recruit back-up caliber QBs until the other player is ready to move on? It would be a major dynamic shift in college football, but there have been many of those already. If you had, for instance, a proven winner and competitor in Connor Shaw, who was a fringe NFL talent, do you just stick with a player who know will win games instead of rolling the dice on a new recruit? As a player, you can just stick around a few years more, make a million or so a year, which is better than you'd get as a late-round draft pick or UDFA.
Sounds like minor league pro football, marketed differently from the UFL.
 
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I thought about that as well. Try for the draft and if you don't make it or get cut, you could drop back to college. What would there be to stop it? Plenty of college players not good enough for the NFL but are very, very good in college.

I guess with the erosion of college football, perhaps we're just witnessing the evolution of an NFL minor league.
We already have minor leagues. And I think you have to look at NCAA D-III and the NAIA for true college football.
 

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I thought about that as well. Try for the draft and if you don't make it or get cut, you could drop back to college. What would there be to stop it? Plenty of college players not good enough for the NFL but are very, very good in college.

I guess with the erosion of college football, perhaps we're just witnessing the evolution of an NFL minor league.
Not even just that. Want to play, but you're riding the bench? Go back to your "college team"
 
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Not even just that. Want to play, but you're riding the bench? Go back to your "college team"
Take it a step further. Say you're a player who didn't get drafted or wasn't getting playing time in the NFL so you went back down to college and you start blowing up in college. Maybe a desperate NFL team comes calling mid-season and you bolt your college team. Nothing seems too outlandish any longer.
 
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True "college" football at the FBS level is dead. FBS football is nothing more than another professional sports league.
 

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True "college" football at the FBS level is dead. FBS football is nothing more than another professional sports league.
We all are saying the same thing, but we are obviously in the minority as ratings for CFB are soaring.

I think younger fans just don't care. I have a nephew about 30 and none of the changes make a lick of difference to him.

Frankly, the majority of any particular team's fans never actually went to school there. So it probably won't matter to most of them when players are no longer required to be students.
 
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We all are saying the same thing, but we are obviously in the minority as ratings for CFB are soaring.

I think younger fans just don't care. I have a nephew about 30 and none of the changes make a lick of difference to him.

Frankly, the majority of any particular team's fans never actually went to school there. So it probably won't matter to most of them when players are no longer required to be students.
I think you are correct. I do wonder how much money the fan who has no connection to the team other than being a "fan" will donate? You made a good point about "muscle memory" as a reason for still following Carolina. I think that describes a lot of fans of college football. As the game continues to change, I have to wonder if that muscle memory will fade along with interest from the older fans who donate and religiously attend the games.

I know I have heard that young alumni are not buying season tickets and, therefore, are not making donations in near the numbers older alumni do. I don't think the younger fans feel the same connection to the schools and the teams the older fans and alumni did. The fact that almost half of USC students are out of state also portends trouble for the number of future ticket buyers. Out of state students are much more likely to move out of SC after graduation and will be less likely to donate and buy season tickets. A graduate who lives in Atlanta or Raleigh or even New York will probably only attend one game a year in WB and that number will likely drop if they marry a graduate from another school with a football team and will drop further when they have a child.

I don't expect a sharp drop off in the near future, say the next 5-10 years, but after that, I can foresee huge stadiums like WB rarely being over 50% full for games. The next generation of fans will be watching on tv and following college teams the same way most NFL fans follow their teams. They will be fans but they won't be really invested in the team.
 
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Take it a step further. Say you're a player who didn't get drafted or wasn't getting playing time in the NFL so you went back down to college and you start blowing up in college. Maybe a desperate NFL team comes calling mid-season and you bolt your college team. Nothing seems too outlandish any longer.
Is that currently happening in minor league football?
 

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Is that currently happening in minor league football?
I would not know as there is no true NFL minor league. If you're referring to the UFL (XFL, etc), I believe they have contracts that lock them in. Maybe college players will end up with contracts but they don't have them as of yet.