GOT this week
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A lot of hype over what was a pretty minor character. More importantly Hound and Bronn sightings. But you bury the lead. Arya can not be dead. I refuse to accept that. What was the purpose of her story for the last four years just to be killed by some ***** with no one who loves her ever to know her fate. If true it's the ultimate F.U. from GRRM to the fans. All the other key deaths have had some major plot points. Arya's story her would just be a dead end.
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There is a theory that the waif is Arya's Tyler Durden, so this would be the end of her becoming no one. Not looking forward to her being ordered to kill another main character if that's the case.
Clegane Bowl is pretty exciting.
Clegane Bowl is pretty exciting.
Writing, especially dialog, gets weaker and weaker and weaker. How long has it been since, after a scene, you thought to yourself, "Hmm, that was clever."?
I enjoyed Lady Mormont. They just have too much going on at this point, a fact that GRRM has acknowledged in the books. Hopefully we get a really good deck clearing at the end of this season. That would maybe give them a little more time to be creative rather than just go with obvious moves.
Arya's not going to die. As you say, that would make no sense. None. As far as it being a F.U. from GRRM, I would say that if HBO kills her, it would be an obvious point of divergence between the book and show.
I would say that it seems oddly coincidental that Theon is an Bravos as Arya is in dire circumstances. Will he somehow be instrumental in saving her? As I type this, something just occurred to me....Why wasn't Theon Greyjoy ever on Arya's list? He betrayed Robb and killed her other 2 brothers (as far as she knows).
Very true. Actually, the best dialogue from last night's episode was the conversation between Jaime and the Blackfish. Of course, that was pretty much ripped directly from the book. We should all probably accept the idea that HBO writers are not on the same level as GRRM. It will only get worse.
In defense of the HBO writers they have actual deadlines.
I can't see that at all, way to confusing for show watchers. HBO keeps things relatively straightforward.
Wait, they were in Bravos? I guess that makes sense with the scenery, but wtf? Why would they be there? Look at a map, find the Iron Islands, find Meereen, now find Bravos. How does that work?
Several last night I thought. I especially liked Jaime being cut off from saying a Lanister always pays his debts. The Mornont scene was clever. The grandmothers verbal evisceration of Sersi was great.
Are you sure? I thought that when Arya was approaching the 2 Westerosi about buying passage back to Westeros, they were talking about a group of Ironborn being in the city.
I'm going to have to watch again. I am pretty sure the guys Arya approached were talking about the Ironborn and that was what clued her in that they were Westerosi.
I loved these two scenes. It was great watching Cersi stand there and take a verbal beating with no comeback.
On a different note, Margaery tipping off Olenna about being in danger confirms what most of us thought after last week's episode: Margaery has fooled everyone into thinking she's a changed (i.e. pious) woman now. It will be interesting to see how she plays this going forward, although I fear it may not be until next season.
I was also amused that the Sparrow is basically Tommen's pimp. Margaery is still holding out on the young man. Joffery wouldn't of put up with that.
I didn't think that was the case at all. My take was that M has everyone fooled. The whole situation is pretty interesting. I read one theory that the High Sparrow either knows that M is playing him, and is using that to his advantage, or he doesn't care if she is playing him or not because he is 5 steps ahead of everyone else playing the games. Cersei has always been a plotter and planner. Sometimes it works out to her advantage and sometimes it does not, but it looks like she currently has 2 adversaries that completely outclass her. Of course, in this show, the norm is that just when you think a character is history, they surprise you by doing something out of left field and turning the tables.
That conversation is one of the reasons behind the theory that he knows M is playing him and is playing her in turn. Why would the HS care if M was pregnant with T's heir? He is, obviously, power hungry and looking to gain control of KL/the Realm. I don't think he wants power for himself. Rather, I think he wants the church to be a powerful as possible. But, he has Tommen under his thumb, and it would be in his/the church's best interest for Tommen to remain king keep him in the loop. So, maybe he knows M is a double agent and is just trying to make her uncomfortable and make her do things she doesn't want to do. Or, maybe he thinks that if she is pregnant with Tommen's heir, she will be less of a threat due to not wanting to do anything to hurt her son's chances of sitting the throne.
I didnt understand that either. It seemed manipulative, but to what end I'm not sure.
As far as beast nun catching on. She noticed Olenna's change in demeanor when M leaned in close. They also made the paper crinkle very obvious which might have been for the audience, but possibly for her to hear. She knows that M somehow got some sort of message to Olenna though. Up to that point, I agree M had them all fooled.
Do any of the other Stark fans some times feel like you are a fan of the Washington Generals????
90's OSU football. Moments of utter despair, glimpses of hope, more despair.
Lannisters are OU. (Rich, keep getting slapped around, but always remain in control)
Targs are Tex. (Could be great, aint done **** in years)
Tex Tech = Pyke. **** land, **** people, never really a threat but always causing heartburn.
Baylor = Bolton's
I'm sure its been done before on other team's boards, but I'll start a thread on it, could be fun.
Just rewatched the episode. The dudes say that the iron fleet is in Slavers Bay and that they are not going anywhere near them.
That makes it clear that they were not in Bravos. HBO says they were in Volantis. The dudes that Arya overheard. said they were in Slavers Bay. Volantis is not in Slavers Bay, but it makes sense as a stopover on the way to SB. It is possible that the 2 guys heard that the IB were in SB, but the rumor was not accurate. It is possible that the timing, between the 2 scenes, does not line up exactly. The Arya scene could possibly take place a week after the Theon/Yara scene (after the IB actually get to SB).
Either way, Theon is not in Bravos and is not likely to bump into Arya.
This is what I am assuming. I am guessing they had a short stop over at a brothel in Volantis for some booty then headed on in to SB. Still why would two guys in Bravos even being talking about it though seems like an odd conversation to show up in Arrya's story line. Maybe next week we have a big scene with Theon/Yara and Dani.
I would think that word of what is going on in Essos gets around pretty quickly since most of the cities are port cities and ships are constantly travelling between them. Sailors love to gossip. So, it seems totally realistic that they would hear about a thousand Ironborn ships showing up somewhere in Essos. As to why HBO included it, I think the point was that the topic of their conversation is what tipped off Arya that those 2 dudes are from Westeros. They knew who the IB are and knew about their reputation.
This is most likely the explanation and I agree I am just to much of a conspiracy theorist to buy it 100%.
Damn. You guys are not messing around.
We're using maps and talking about port cities and all kinds of stuff.
I just turn the tv on, and watch. Then I turn it off.
It's much easier if you just go about it from a more American viewpoint. You guys are making this into a soccer match. It's not about who controlled the tempo or style of play or had more shots on goal, etc. just simplify it to who got killed and who killed them. That's it.
This whole thing is nothing but one big World Cup.
There are some ties and some teams need other teams to eek out a victory or a tie or even a close loss for them to succeed.
Sure, there's more violence in soccer (at least outside the match), and a lot less flopping in GOT, but there's only one victor.
We're using maps and talking about port cities and all kinds of stuff.
I just turn the tv on, and watch. Then I turn it off.
It's much easier if you just go about it from a more American viewpoint. You guys are making this into a soccer match. It's not about who controlled the tempo or style of play or had more shots on goal, etc. just simplify it to who got killed and who killed them. That's it.
This whole thing is nothing but one big World Cup.
There are some ties and some teams need other teams to eek out a victory or a tie or even a close loss for them to succeed.
Sure, there's more violence in soccer (at least outside the match), and a lot less flopping in GOT, but there's only one victor.
