Gotta give Schiano credit

RUforlife

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Credit, like a raise and an extension? Pretty sure he recently got both of those.
 

RW90

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As I recall, Schiano indicated he prefers to use NIL for players already within the program rather than recruiting. This approach to NIL seems far more reasonable, at least to me, and looks to be clearly working.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Sometimes you hear executives talk about what must be done who are just talking to show they are aware of issues and criticisms of their organizations.

But it seems to be that Schiano's talk about the NIL and how important it is and how much time organizations have to devote to it now... it could be that we are seeing proof... as we have with Pike and basketball.. that Schiano is really working this problem.

The sleeping giant thing about Rutgers.. could very well be a big part of this. If we ever got New Jersey's business world behind Rutgers athletics.. and NIL making it perfectly legal.. look out.

by GDP, New Jersey is number 9 in the country... and we have ONE flagship state U to support that competes in athletics at the highest level. If Schiano.. and maybe it is Hobbs working this too.. I have no idea.. if Rutgers can convert that GDP to an equivalently strong NIL collective... wow.. would be nice to be Top 10, Top 20 every year in everything.
 

SeaGlass

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All indications are that he's staying as well (but just not "announcing" it). The ONLY loss on D will be Max, to the NFL, but Rodgers started to look "ready" to fill the role, without skipping a beat, by season's end.
Ahanotu and Iton were the starting interior linemen and we need at least 1 portal transfer to help fill those roles.

Jennings was the leading tackler, to say he is not a loss does not give him credit for his play on the field.
 

Shelby65

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Is the NIL needed to keep the current players better spent on a QB ? I don't see retaining players as a culture thing. I view it as $$ motivation.

Remember, he's a defense first HC and aside from JM, that's most likely where he's spending.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Is the NIL needed to keep the current players better spent on a QB ? I don't see retaining players as a culture thing. I view it as $$ motivation.

Remember, he's a defense first HC and aside from JM, that's most likely where he's spending.
let me see- Dixon, Longerbeam, Powell, Lewis, Bailey, KM, Toure and not losing a single starter up till now to the portal vs losing these guys and maybe upgrading a little a QB and losing those guys
And it took NIL to get the new WR too
 

RUTGERS95

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let me see- Dixon, Longerbeam, Powell, Lewis, Bailey, KM, Toure and not losing a single starter up till now to the portal vs losing these guys and maybe upgrading a little a QB and losing those guys
And it took NIL to get the new WR too
what starter did we lose?
 

Shelby65

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let me see- Dixon, Longerbeam, Powell, Lewis, Bailey, KM, Toure and not losing a single starter up till now to the portal vs losing these guys and maybe upgrading a little a QB and losing those guys
And it took NIL to get the new WR too
So you're saying it's not worth spending on a QB....just checking. Isn't not having a QB capable of sustaining drives what wore out the defense against the better teams we played ? I question the status quo with the most important position on the team.
 

yesrutgers01

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So you're saying it's not worth spending on a QB....just checking. Isn't not having a QB capable of sustaining drives what wore out the defense against the better teams we played ? I question the status quo with the most important position on the team.
you asked if it would be better spent- Let's say we got McCord but didn't keep these other players, get the kid from Mammoth, keep someone like Pierce...
It is much better spent on the players we kept and the WR we got and maybe the couple of 4 stars coming in...
 

Shelby65

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you asked if it would be better spent- Let's say we got McCord but didn't keep these other players, get the kid from Mammoth, keep someone like Pierce...
It is much better spent on the players we kept and the WR we got and maybe the couple of 4 stars coming in...
Yea McCoRD would have been too costly, but how about someone lower rated in the portal who’s still a lot better than GW.

I think the Monmouth WR, no matter how good he is, is a waste of NIL because of philosophy and the QB’s limitations.
 

yesrutgers01

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Yea McCoRD would have been too costly, but how about someone lower rated in the portal who’s still a lot better than GW.

I think the Monmouth WR, no matter how good he is, is a waste of NIL because of philosophy and the QB’s limitations.
I believe the kid from Minny is still coming for a visit- will be interesting to see if Greg makes a serious play for him.
 

Shelby65

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I believe the kid from Minny is still coming for a visit- will be interesting to see if Greg makes a serious play for him.
according to reports,he came this past weekend. before the visit I called bs on a possible offer and legit interest by us for the reasons I've stated. I said the kid just wanted to meet with his old coordinator to see if he might have a chance to compete for QB1, and also an offer for his brother. Kicking the tires is what I called it.

I think it's clear now that there was no offer....more support for my view that Schiano isn't looking for a credible QB in the portal to compete with GW. Not proof yet, but the evidence sure is adding up.

He'll have that opportunity someplace else.
 

RUHouston

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according to reports,he came this past weekend. before the visit I called bs on a possible offer and legit interest by us for the reasons I've stated. I said the kid just wanted to meet with his old coordinator to see if he might have a chance to compete for QB1, and also an offer for his brother. Kicking the tires is what I called it.

I think it's clear now that there was no offer....more support for my view that Schiano isn't looking for a credible QB in the portal to compete with GW. Not proof yet, but the evidence sure is adding up.

He'll have that opportunity someplace else.
Because he didn’t commit doesn’t mean he didn’t get offered.
 

RUaMoose_rivals

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As I recall, Schiano indicated he prefers to use NIL for players already within the program rather than recruiting. This approach to NIL seems far more reasonable, at least to me, and looks to be clearly working.
That’s because he can’t convince any offensive difference makers to come let alone pay them. “Clearly working”? How? If not for Michigan State’s special teams meltdown in the 2nd half we’d be 5-7 just like last year
 

Knight Shift

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you asked if it would be better spent- Let's say we got McCord but didn't keep these other players, get the kid from Mammoth, keep someone like Pierce...
It is much better spent on the players we kept and the WR we got and maybe the couple of 4 stars coming in...
I beg of you. If you want to engage someone in useless discussion, I'll give you my phone number and I will talk to you 12 hours per day if you stop engaging that useless twit.

BTW, Lincoln Reilly says hello. How did 2023 work out for him with his defense and the 2022 Heisman Trophy QB?
 
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Mikemarc

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I am not a fan of Schiano's game day management, but what he does from a Program perspective is nothing short of spectacular. To get all these guys to return and not even, at least, test the portal waters, is unbelievable. I know a few are testing the water at RU, but this is special.

Need to give Greg credit for this…absolutely.
 

Shelby65

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Because he didn’t commit doesn’t mean he didn’t get offered.
True. I do think he would have committed if offered, which is why I don’t think he got one. His brother being in the portal too complicates things. We will never know what transpired.
 
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Captain Hogleg

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That’s because he can’t convince any offensive difference makers to come let alone pay them. “Clearly working”? How? If not for Michigan State’s special teams meltdown in the 2nd half we’d be 5-7 just like last year
If your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle. Deal in what happened and not hypotheticals. The program is improving.
 

RUaMoose_rivals

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If you're a "developmental program", that's the way to go.
Schiano knows he’ll never compete with Maryland let alone PSU, OSU or Michigan so he throws these terms out there such as ‘developmental program’ or ‘rebuild’ to keep the fools at bay & the money flowing. It’s really about the bank account
 
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RW90

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“Clearly working”? How? If not for Michigan State’s special teams meltdown in the 2nd half we’d be 5-7 just like last year
By "working" I was simply referring to keeping key players on board. Outside of Melton opting for the draft, our eligible upperclassmen are almost all on board. That said, I too hope to see improvement next season especially against more middle of the pack teams.
 
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yesrutgers01

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By "working" I was simply referring to keeping key players on board. Outside of Melton opting for the draft, our eligible upperclassmen are almost all on board. That said, I too hope to see improvement next season especially against more middle of the pack teams.
in these days of NIL/Portal - and teams making offers to kids that have not even said they were going to transfer-
The group mentioned- 100% all had deals put in front of them - Melton to the Draft makes sense.

No one else is keeping their top players that are not going to the NFL.