Herbstreit new top 4 after OSU win. Agree?

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The ESPN analyst put Michigan at No. 3 after Clemson needed a missed field goal by N.C. State to survive at home on Saturday. Last week, he had the Wolverines at No. 4.

  1. Alabama
  2. Ohio State
  3. Michigan
  4. Clemson
 

UKWildcats#8

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I don't think it really matters. There is a huge drop off from #1 to the rest of the nation IMO.

don't see OSU/Michigan both getting in the playoff but get why they are both top 4 now.
 

Ugoff

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I'm going to need to see Michigan prove it. They'll win out and until the last game vs. tOSU and get their ish pushed in as usual.
 

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I think you can pencil Washington and Clemson in the playoff. They get in even with one loss ... and I doubt they lose.

Everyone else has serious work to do.
 

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I think you can pencil Washington and Clemson in the playoff. They get in even with one loss ... and I doubt they lose.

Everyone else has serious work to do.

You can pencil in Bama too. They can afford to lose a game, and there is no way in hell they lose to A&M and LSU (hell, they won't lose to either and I expect them to beatdown A&M, LSU MAY be closer). After that is is pretty easy for Bama IMO.
 
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I think you can pencil Washington and Clemson in the playoff. They get in even with one loss ... and I doubt they lose.

Everyone else has serious work to do.
No way U Dub gets in with one loss. The PAC12 is too weak., and Oklahoma is going to canniballize the Big 12 so they won't be in the playoffs either.
 

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For right now, sure, although the loser of Michigan-OSU won't be in the playoff barring some help by a lot of chaos in the SEC, another Louisville loss, Baylor losing in the Big 12, and Washington dropping a game in the PAC-12.
 
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JasonS.

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You can pencil in Bama too. They can afford to lose a game, and there is no way in hell they lose to A&M and LSU (hell, they won't lose to either and I expect them to beatdown A&M, LSU MAY be closer). After that is is pretty easy for Bama IMO.

Yeah, if they get past Texas A&M it's pretty near a done deal. But same goes for Texas A&M. Win in Tuscaloosa and they're very close to in.
 

Beatle Bum

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No way U Dub gets in with one loss. The PAC12 is too weak., and Oklahoma is going to canniballize the Big 12 so they won't be in the playoffs either.

I hear UL fans say this, but I think it is wrong. It is often premised upon an over-estimation of the ACC. I am not sure the ACC is as good as some people think. That said, I am not sure Wash loses.

On the other hand, I do think Clemson drops a game, unless the continue to be lucky, like yesterday, or they start playing up to their potential.

If UM and OSU have a tight game and they finish the season with one loss between them, there will be a strong argument that both should get in. Herbstreit is counting on one falling out, but a big game in a strong Big Ten ...

I believe UM has one of the stoutest defenses in the country. I will not be surprised if they win the B1G.
 

Beatle Bum

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For right now, sure, although the loser of Michigan-OSU won't be in the playoff barring some help by a lot of chaos in the SEC, another Louisville loss, Baylor losing in the Big 12, and Washington dropping a game in the PAC-12.

Why would you think a one loss UL should get in over a one loss UM or OSU?
 

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There is no situation where UL gets in over a one loss team from the Big Ten or SEC.
Absolutely true. Nebraska, Ohio State, and Michigan all would have better resumes with only one loss.

I don't think they get in over one loss Pac 12 champion either. Conference championships are big. Louisville is going to have to hope for Clemson implosion to get in. Its the only way.

Just a reminder to everyone that West Virginia is undefeated and can still be a factor in this thing.

Also, Boise State is undefeated and has a win over a team that could win the PAC 12.
 
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vhcat70

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The ESPN analyst put Michigan at No. 3 after Clemson needed a missed field goal by N.C. State to survive at home on Saturday. Last week, he had the Wolverines at No. 4.

  1. Alabama
  2. Ohio State
  3. Michigan
  4. Clemson
What conference did Herbstreit play in? What school did he play for? Who gets helped by having MI in his top 4? I rest my case.
 
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irishcat1965

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What conference did Herbstreit play in? What school did he play for? Who gets helped by having MI in his top 4? I rest my case.
I despise OSU and the Big Ten in general but Michigan, OSU and Wisconsin are playing some very good football. Not as good as Bama, but still very good. I have a feeling it will be Bama, the winner of OSU-Michigan, Clemson if they run the table and Washington if they run the table. Semifinals of Bama-Washington and Clemson-OSU/Michigan.
 
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Not projecting.
Season ended yesterday.
My vote would be:

Bama
OSU
Michigan
Clemson by a whisker over aTm.

Both have road wins over Auburn
Both have good H wins over top 10 [uofl, UT]
Clemson has 3 road wins aTm 2. Clemson win at Ga Tech.
 

Stenchymouse

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Wisconsin is very good and getting better. Personally, with 2 losses, I would consider keeping them in the top 10.
Oh, well since they're top 10 and they almost beat Ohio St, then I can see why you think Ohio St would MURDER Alabama!!

That makes TOTAL sense since Alabama is on kind of a losing streak right now...
 

Rhavic

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No way U Dub gets in with one loss. The PAC12 is too weak., and Oklahoma is going to canniballize the Big 12 so they won't be in the playoffs either.

They've blasted mostly everybody that they've played, plus they'll win their conference championship, which is the most important thing in the committee's eyes.
 

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I'm not too sold on WVU yet. I think any of the top four mentioned above would beat the brakes off of them. Who knows. There is a ton of ball to be played.
 

Rhavic

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Yea that's was an overstatement. But I do think that OSU plays a different style off football that would not fair well for Alabama.

And what style is that? Alabama is like a vastly more talented and more physical Wisconsin team with a Heisman candidate for a dual-threat QB. They have 3 All-Americans in their front 7, and I'm pretty sure their secondary has a couple of first round draft picks in it too. What weakness can anybody exploit on that Alabama team?
 
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Watched the OSU/Wis game last night and think Urban is going off the deep end again. Watching him kneel on the side line several times during the game gives me the feeling that the pressure is starting to get to him again. If he implodes, OSU would be in bad shape.
 

Bill - Shy Cat

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And what style is that? Alabama is like a vastly more talented and more physical Wisconsin team with a Heisman candidate for a dual-threat QB. They have 3 All-Americans in their front 7, and I'm pretty sure their secondary has a couple of first round draft picks in it too. What weakness can anybody exploit on that Alabama team?
No weaknesses for Bama. Their freshman quarterback is getting better each week. Other teams are playing for second place.
 
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No way U Dub gets in with one loss. The PAC12 is too weak., and Oklahoma is going to canniballize the Big 12 so they won't be in the playoffs either.
If you seriously think that a one loss Louisville team, and one which didn't even play in their conference championship game, would jump a P5 champion, you're dreaming. Unless, the champion has two losses, and, even then, it's no lock. Louisville actually a better chance of hoping (1) win out, (2) Clemson collapses and loses two more games, and (3) win the ACC championship. In that scenario, they're in. In any other, the window is all but shut. Any crack in the window is microscopic.
 
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Has Clemson played a good game yet?? The 59-0 against highschool tean doesnt count
 

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There is no situation where UL gets in over a one loss team from the Big Ten or SEC.

Wrong. Too early to make proclamations like that either way.

If Michigan loses to OSU, they could have some serious SOS issues with regards to a non-conf champ playoff hopeful, especially if Wiscy takes a 3rd loss...because they will be completely reliant on Wiscy as their lone quality win.

BTW, just read a tweet that SEC West is 7-0 against SEC East this year, but 0-2 against ACC.
 
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WildcatofNati

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Wrong. Too early to make proclamations like that either way.

If Michigan loses to OSU, they could have some serious SOS issues with regards to a non-conf champ playoff hopeful, especially if Wiscy takes a 3rd loss...because they will be completely reliant on Wiscy as their lone quality win.

BTW, just read a tweet that SEC West is 7-0 against SEC East this year, but 0-2 against ACC.
While it's possible for Louisville to beat out another one loss non-champion, it's very unlikely that Louisville beats out a one loss champion. When I refer to champion, of course I mean P5 only.

As for the ACC being 2-0 against the SEC West, congratulations. Your best team in the whole conference beat the 5th or 6th SEC West team and your third or fourth best team in the whole conference beat the 3rd or 4th best SEC West team, in what was essentially a home game. The SEC East would have a great record against the ACC, if we limited it to a couple of games like Tennessee vs. Wake Forest and Florida vs. Boston College.
 

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They are going to put in conference champions. Unless they are 2 or 3 loss teams, the 4 will come from the conference champs. They days of 1 loss runner ups getting in are over folks.
 

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Yea that's was an overstatement. But I do think that OSU plays a different style off football that would not fair well for Alabama.
I do think that Alabama is vulnerable and OSU could very well beat them but if Bama pounds the run, controls the clock and plays great defense, they'll be hard to deal with.

Early in the season, I thought UofL would give them fits, but it seems that teams have kinda figured out how to defend them and they lack the depth to deal with Bama's running game IMO...
 

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The ESPN analyst put Michigan at No. 3 after Clemson needed a missed field goal by N.C. State to survive at home on Saturday. Last week, he had the Wolverines at No. 4.

  1. Alabama
  2. Ohio State
  3. Michigan
  4. Clemson
I watched the entire Wisconsin-Ohio State game. Wisconsin is a solid team that played 1 really good half of football on their home field. Ohio State's pass rush got to Wisconsin's freshman quarterback in the 2nd half. Still, Wisconsin should have won the game, and Ohio State was lucky to escape. Ohio State has elite overall team speed, but they look small compared to the top SEC teams. Compared to SEC, Ohio State is finesse. Although the SEC has temporarily lost its signature balance, this is shaping up as a stronger year in the SEC than mediocre preseason predictions suggested. Alabama is the clear #1 team, and the great Crimson Tide defense makes them 1 of the better college football teams of the last decade. As Hurts matures over the rest of the season, their dominance will become even clearer.

1. Alabama
2. Texas A&M
3. Ohio State
4. Michigan
5. Clemson
6. Washington
 
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