Horse collar tackles

[ukats22]

Believe it or not, the way the rule is written, it was not a horse collar because our player ended up going forward and not backwards. By the way if the player goes out of bounds during a legitimate horse collar it is also considered not a horse collar.

Real lucky the refs inly tagged stoops with a sideline warning, because what he did was definitely unsportsmanlike for those thinking the refs don't like us or had money on the game lol.

Their was a missed dpi but all in all a pretty fair game.

Dave

 

[orlandocatfan_rivals383321]

I've watched a lot of college games this year and the horse collar call doesn't seem to be called hardly at all. Apparently, the refs have decided not to make the call. Before the rule change, the horse collar was never an issue.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

oh wow I don't know the numbers of the players. I guess that makes my observation of a ref invalid then huh. Because I always watch games with our players numbers right beside me. (DWS). Someone else mentioned Conrad on these boards and I assumed that was who it was


But by all means call it a conspiracy even though it has to be two or more people for it to be a conspiracy. So maybe you morons who don't know what a conspiracy is shouldn't be trusted at all talking about it being real or not then huh???? I mean if mine is invalid for something trivial.... so should yours for not knowing the damn definition of a conspiracy

 

[JHB4UK]

It was infuriating watching South Carolina tackle Boom 5 yards out of bounds and hurt him (no call), Vandy 3 times tackle our guys around the neck (no call), our QB slides feet first and a 300 LB State tackle do a belly flop on top of him (no call), and this horse collar tackle in the middle of the field on a last minute drive as we are trying to win a must-win game, and no flag

hey refs miss plays on all sides, holding vs not holding, pass interference, happens every game with every team, I get it. but some of the blatant 15 yarders that we are not getting the benefit from week after week in SEC games is simply maddening beyond believe. so I completely understand Stoops losing his **** the way he did.

 

[macsauce13]

I replayed the trip several times. The ref moved his leg and foot forward for no reason (other than to get in conrad's way).

Have a clip? I would love to see this.

 

[SmokinGun9]

I hope smith turns into a baller

who in the name of John L Smith is Smith?

 

[Johnfarrel]

Nine times out of 10 the late hit on Johnson would have been called. He was into his slide and it is up to the defender to pull up or miss. He clearly did neither and threw the elbow into the helment.

 

[ukfit]

when a ball at the goal line breaks the" front plane" of the goal line as happened with Johnson is it not a td, or does the ball have to break the back edge of the strip ?

 

[jc2010]

You stand there eye level with 22 full grown men running full speed from every direction and tell me you see everything. Someone runs in front of you, you can't see through them. Judgement is very very debatable. The fans on the stands who gripe the most, set in a two foot space and without moving two muscles can see entire field. The guys calling the game don't have that. What was the penelty count last night anyways. We have no where to gripe. Was it missed yes, did it cost us the game no. (Calls never do because if we play a perfect game one call ain't gonna kill us). For every call we thought they miss, we have five mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. So move on about it.

So you agree with me, the refs aren't up to the task and they need help.

If two evenly matched teams are playing, yes one call can cost a team the game

 

[katwest]

I hope Stoops sends films to the SEC office of the horse collar plays that have not been called in our favor..there have been a few. The refs ought to be suspended for one game. That is a rule , not an optional call.

Since they have implemented that call, I have seen border line ones get called against us and blatant ones hardly ever called for us, it's just a long line of no calls we don't get but our opponents do. Refs just don't see it or don't call it in our favor.

 

[ukats22]

Geez. It was not a horse collar

 

[docholiday51]

You don't have to move to see a play right in front of you, plus, that's why they have so many officials on the field. If these are the best of the best, well that's the problem. If the game is too fast for the refs they are going to have to change the rules so that egregious fouls can be called when picked up on replay.

I have seen too much crap missed by refs that was right under their noses and there was nothing fast about it. yeah, jokers

Good idea in theory but if they did that the game would never be over,it would be like the legal system in that if you don't like the call just appeal to a higher court.It is hard to see how they missed the horse collar call. If you recall Miss St got several good calls/non calls in the BYU game,I don't think anyone is trying to take care of them but it might be a product of the talent of the officiating crew.On the other hand you would think that a prime time game on SECN would draw a pretty good crew.

 

[vhcat70]

Nine times out of 10 the late hit on Johnson would have been called. He was into his slide and it is up to the defender to pull up or miss. He clearly did neither and threw the elbow into the helment.

That elbow was the big part of that.

 

[vhcat70]

who in the name of John L Smith is Smith?

You really should know.

 

[gozva]

They don't have the luxury of being able to scan whole field without moving. I've officiated basketball at a high level, and the game, no matter what level, looks totally different in the line of fire.

Those guys are the best if the best officials. You don't get to that level by being a joker.

So you're telling us the refs can't be expected to watch the ball carrier?

 

[jcmc225]

Anyway someone could video and post the trip on conrad?

 

[ukats22]

Gozva, what play are you referring to? The play everyone thinks was a horse collar? If so, they were watching the ball carrier and they thought that the player was going forward and not backwards, therefore, it did not warrant the flag.

If it is another play, tell me what it is...

Dave

 

[larry the cable guy]

The ump inexplicably moved forward and tripped Walker on the play, and the same ump looked right at the horse collar tackle from 12 feet away, with the Miss St player's arm extended and didn't throw the flag.

At some point Stoops is gonna slug somebody.

He was looking from one side and the side judge was directly on the other side as the Miss St defender reached out his arm and grabbed his shoulder pads to tackle him. I can understand a facemask as a runner is trying to get through the line of scrimmage being missed but how 2 refs looks at a guy on an island commit an obvious infraction is beyond explanation.