I know this has been asked/discussed a lot....

[Brutius]

but I still don't quite understand how anyone can think this isn't a great hire. Seriously what did you people expect? Nick Saban to leave Alabama and come here? Pete Carroll to give up looking at the USC cheerleaders to come look at the MSU pom squad?

If anyone thinks MSU could have hired someone better than the offensive coordinator of a team playing in the BCS championship I would like some of the stuff you are smoking cause you obviously got some high grade ****.

 

[99jc]

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[Roy Munson.sixpack]

more and stuff to just be given to them and nothing is ever enough or good enough...it is "your" way.

This was a great hire...for all the reasons you pointed out. Will it worK? Dont know, but it damn sure cant be any worse, and i for one am ready to see something new.

 

[MSUCE99]

The only way it could have been better is if he had head coaching experience, i.e., a proven track record. After taking a chance on Croom last time, I was hopeful that we would get someone successful from a smaller school.

That being said, if we weren't going that route, then I don't know how we could have made a better "coordinator" hire. His resume is impeccable.

 

[hatfieldms]

The only way it could have been better is if he had head coaching experience, i.e., a proven track record. After taking a chance on Croom last time, I was hopeful that we would get someone successful from a smaller school.

That being said, if we weren't going that route, then I don't know how we could have made a better "coordinator" hire. His resume is impeccable.

This is so much more different than Croom that it isnt funny. Croom was a RB coach that had been out of college for 17 years. Mullen is the OC of a team playing for the BCS title for the second timer in 3 years. He has been successful everywhere he has gone and has learned from one of the best in the business

 

[MSUCE99]

deadku

 

[Brutius]

that it "could" have been better. Bill Parcells could have come out of retirement to come coach us, but looking at it realistically there was not a single great head coach that was going to come here. I just am trying to figure out in my head what the people who say this was a "good but not great" hire think we could have done differently? In my opinion, Tubberville, Petersen, Gill (all the coaches that were available or rumored to be available) are about on equal standing with an offensive guy who has a national championship and took two different offenses to BCS bowls.

 

[MSUCE99]

I have an irrational fear that he will go for it on 4th and 15, or punt from the 30, or something like that. Just the knowledge that a new coach has had to make calls before is a little comforting.

That is my ONLY disappointment though. I guess the trade off is that I have no fear that Nutt will go undefeated and win a NC at Ole Miss. He has already proven what is probably the limit of his abilities, while right now Mullen has all the potential in the world. It's kind of like investing in stocks versus bonds right now to me. Well maybe that's a bad analogy to make this year. Or maybe it proves my point, I don't know.

I am VERY pleased that Mullen is focused on recruiting and I am confident that our offense will improve enormously.

 

[Todd4State]

Yes, he was a RB's coach, but he also was one of the best in the NFL. Beyond that, he was an OC in the NFL, which meant that he had made some play calls before, even if he was a "failed OC". At the same time, a lot of coaches that don't work out in the NFL, are great in college. See Pete Carroll, a failed NFL HC. He also played o-line in the NFL and in college, so you would have thought that he would have known the importance of that aspect of the offense. He also coached Corneilious Bennett and Derrick Thomas at Bama, so had a defensive background as well.

Actually, based on his background, it makes it even more puzzling why he did some of the things he did.

 

[El Diablo Blanco]

loserleavetownku

 

[Brutius]

1) Take it up with HD
2) DIAF.

 

[uscreb]

If I am a State fan, I think that my coordinator is great and your coordinator is a risk. Likewise, as an SEC fan I think that coordinators hired by SEC schools are better hires than coordinators hired by ACC schools. As a Southerner, I am likely to believe that ACC, SEC, and Big12 Coordinator hires are better than Pac10, Big10, or Big East hires. (For those interested, see research done by Simpson and Brown, Johari, and several others from 1985 to about 1995)

The second layer is external validation of expectation. That is, because we primarily characterize the quality of event through subjective lenses, we seek to validate our qualitative judgments via the input of others. For instance, when I sip a nice zinfandel and I am alone I am likely to be very satisfied. If, however, I am with someone else and they make a face or say, "Boy this sucks," then I will begin to re-evaluate my initial assessment. The tendency for human beings is to stick with their initial cognition and we will attempt to explore the external input for inconsistencies. (What sucks? The wine itself or the glass it is in? Do you normally drink zinfandel or are you a whiskey person?) Humans are pretty stubborn about seeing things their way.

The final element is the ecology surrounding the evaluator and its tolerance of ambiguity and change. If the environment and the rational components of the culture have facilitated and rewarded what Kripke called the elaboration of cognitive frameworks (changing your mind), then there will be little resistance to the accepting that one individual may say a hire was "okay" or "decent" while another may say it was "a home run" or "great." The phenomenological bubble of the individual and the flexibility of the ecology will allow both opinions to persist and even be equivalent without the need to marginalize one or the other view.

So, you wanted to "understand how anyone can think this isn't a great hire" and here is your answer. Your "great hire" and my "decent hire" are the same thing view from slightly, but coexistent angles.

 

[thatsbaseball]

nm

 

[uscreb]

I lived through Kinard, Cooper, and Sloan, so I know better than to purchase or endorse anything that has to do with a coach's possible success. I ridiculed and scorned my friends out here who bought "Three-Pete" t-shirts and blamed them solely for our loss to Texas in the Rose Bowl.

I refuse to acknowledge (and therefore tacitly admit to) the utter imbecility of an Ole Miss fanbase that allowed such depraved **** to survive past one day.

Please don't even get me started on the "Nutt" **** that appears on t-shirts, tents, towels, and tatoos throughout the Grove.

 

[MSUCE99]

cheersku

 

[Shmuley]

is full of pansy *** faggots with narcissistic tendencies?

 

[uscreb]

in ourselves, so I guess that means you are a pansy *** ****** with narcissistic tendencies.

Too, bad because I thought you were a virile, handsome stud with extreme intellectual capacity.