I like Beamer, but my confidence/expectation just isn't there.

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Here's what I mean. If everything else remained the same (players, assistant coaches, current record, etc.), but we had Joe Morrison, Lou Holtz or Spurrier at the helm, I'd be going into this weekend with some hope. But I just don't have that same hope with Beamer. I wish I did. And I hope he proves me wrong. And I'm not saying those other coaches come home with a "W" this weekend. I'm just saying my hopes would be much higher. Go Cocks!
 

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I have some hope b/c of the A&M game last year. They were top 10 and we trucked them at home. That's an entirely different beast than playing in Baton Rouge at night, though.

Unless you're Billy Napier, pulling miraculous, season-saving wins out of your backside isn't a recipe for survival.
 
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I have some hope b/c of the A&M game last year. They were top 10 and we trucked them at home. That's an entirely different beast than playing in Baton Rouge at night, though.

Unless you're Billy Napier, pulling miraculous, season-saving wins out of your backside isn't a recipe for survival.

I was going to type that A&M wasn't nearly as good as that ranking by the end of the season. But honestly, I dont think LSU will be either.
 

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Trust the process. Beamer has put together a similar record to Spurrier. Better against Clemson early on. Recruiting well and bringing in 4&5 star guys. Program is rising but a 6-6 year would be a huge setback imo. Need to be in the conversation at the end of the season to keep momentum rolling. I’ve been following long enough where changing coaches just isn’t the answer unless it was a slam dunk like Saban or something. Stability is Carolina’s best option. Beamer is still growing and maturing as a coach too. I mean give him 20 more years of experience and he will be one of the more well schooled guys in college ball, considering all the coaches he grew up around and worked with.
 

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I was going to type that A&M wasn't nearly as good as that ranking by the end of the season. But honestly, I dont think LSU will be either.
LSU certainly hasn't looked as good as their preseason ranking. They haven't impressed against any P4 opponents or LaTech and lost to the only good team they face. I guess it's widely assumed Nussmeier is playing injured. They're still plenty good enough to beat us, though. If we were a bit better on offense, I'd say they were quite beatable.
 

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LSU struggled against Clemson. We better than Clemson, right?
 

18IsTheMan

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LSU struggled against Clemson. We better than Clemson, right?
Not the version that showed up against UNC.

UNC sucks, but Clemson had 28 points in the first quarter and totally took their foot off the gas after that.
 

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Trust the process. Beamer has put together a similar record to Spurrier. Better against Clemson early on. Recruiting well and bringing in 4&5 star guys. Program is rising but a 6-6 year would be a huge setback imo. Need to be in the conversation at the end of the season to keep momentum rolling. I’ve been following long enough where changing coaches just isn’t the answer unless it was a slam dunk like Saban or something. Stability is Carolina’s best option. Beamer is still growing and maturing as a coach too. I mean give him 20 more years of experience and he will be one of the more well schooled guys in college ball, considering all the coaches he grew up around and worked with.
A 6-6 finish would have been a decent season before the games began, now it feels like they would be finishing on a high note. I expected 5-7 this season. They lost too much on defense, the RB situation was murky and no change in OL coach; Gamecocks in preseason playoff talk was ludicrous.

However, some things looked worse than I expected and Sellers play pre UK was unexpected. So if they finish with 6 wins then that isn’t really a step back. It would probably indicate improvement as the season goes.
 

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@ LSU - L
vs. OU - L
vs. AL - L
@ Ole MS - L
@ A&M - L
vs. CCU - W
vs. Clemson - Toss up

4-8 / 5-7 - May snag one or two upsets but I think 6-6 may be the ceiling. Gonna take a good 9 win season to get into the conversation these days.
 

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@ LSU - L
vs. OU - L
vs. AL - L
@ Ole MS - L
@ A&M - L
vs. CCU - W
vs. Clemson - Toss up

4-8 / 5-7 - May snag one or two upsets but I think 6-6 may be the ceiling. Gonna take a good 9 win season to get into the conversation these days.
Btw, Old Dominion is looking like a really good team this year. I feel like we helped in some way 😁 They seemed to have upped their level of play since we played them.
 
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LSU certainly hasn't looked as good as their preseason ranking. They haven't impressed against any P4 opponents or LaTech and lost to the only good team they face. I guess it's widely assumed Nussmeier is playing injured. They're still plenty good enough to beat us, though. If we were a bit better on offense, I'd say they were quite beatable.
Will our DC challenge that injury? I remember whammy not blitzing Watson at Clemson with everyone in the stadium watching him hobble
 
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Trust the process. Beamer has put together a similar record to Spurrier. Better against Clemson early on. Recruiting well and bringing in 4&5 star guys. Program is rising but a 6-6 year would be a huge setback imo. Need to be in the conversation at the end of the season to keep momentum rolling. I’ve been following long enough where changing coaches just isn’t the answer unless it was a slam dunk like Saban or something. Stability is Carolina’s best option. Beamer is still growing and maturing as a coach too. I mean give him 20 more years of experience and he will be one of the more well schooled guys in college ball, considering all the coaches he grew up around and worked with.
Gonna be 4-8. Beams doesn't have the chops and apparently (and incredibly) a bigger ego than Dabo.
 
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Trust the process. Beamer has put together a similar record to Spurrier. Better against Clemson early on. Recruiting well and bringing in 4&5 star guys. Program is rising but a 6-6 year would be a huge setback imo. Need to be in the conversation at the end of the season to keep momentum rolling. I’ve been following long enough where changing coaches just isn’t the answer unless it was a slam dunk like Saban or something. Stability is Carolina’s best option. Beamer is still growing and maturing as a coach too. I mean give him 20 more years of experience and he will be one of the more well schooled guys in college ball, considering all the coaches he grew up around and worked with.
So he needs 20 more years at Carolina? Gonna have to make the playoffs a few times to justify that kind of contract. Spurrier had 3 straight 11 win seasons in his prime here and 5 straight wins against Clemson. Still waiting on one double digit win season under Shane.
 
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Trust the process. Beamer has put together a similar record to Spurrier. Better against Clemson early on. Recruiting well and bringing in 4&5 star guys. Program is rising but a 6-6 year would be a huge setback imo. Need to be in the conversation at the end of the season to keep momentum rolling. I’ve been following long enough where changing coaches just isn’t the answer unless it was a slam dunk like Saban or something. Stability is Carolina’s best option. Beamer is still growing and maturing as a coach too. I mean give him 20 more years of experience and he will be one of the more well schooled guys in college ball, considering all the coaches he grew up around and worked with.
If we can get to 6-6 this year I will be very optimistic and hopeful because I think it will mean the offense has been fixed.

What I'd really like to see in 2026 is a faster start.
 

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Trust the process. Beamer has put together a similar record to Spurrier. Better against Clemson early on. Recruiting well and bringing in 4&5 star guys. Program is rising but a 6-6 year would be a huge setback imo. Need to be in the conversation at the end of the season to keep momentum rolling. I’ve been following long enough where changing coaches just isn’t the answer unless it was a slam dunk like Saban or something. Stability is Carolina’s best option. Beamer is still growing and maturing as a coach too. I mean give him 20 more years of experience and he will be one of the more well schooled guys in college ball, considering all the coaches he grew up around and worked with.
The process is in year 5, we know what we have and what we will have. Beamer is going to be pretty consistent with what Carolina football has historically been, a little of .500 over any length of time. I can see wild swings in season records, 4-8 to 9-3 over time with no rhyme or reason as to why.
 

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If we can get to 6-6 this year I will be very optimistic and hopeful because I think it will mean the offense has been fixed.

What I'd really like to see in 2026 is a faster start.
New qb next year more than likely. 6-6 would be a disappointing season.
 
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If we can get to 6-6 this year I will be very optimistic and hopeful because I think it will mean the offense has been fixed.

What I'd really like to see in 2026 is a faster start.
2026 team will be totally different in the brave new NIL/portal world. The days of a "rebuilding" year are pretty much gone, every season is like a new team.
 

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Here's what I mean. If everything else remained the same (players, assistant coaches, current record, etc.), but we had Joe Morrison, Lou Holtz or Spurrier at the helm, I'd be going into this weekend with some hope. But I just don't have that same hope with Beamer. I wish I did. And I hope he proves me wrong. And I'm not saying those other coaches come home with a "W" this weekend. I'm just saying my hopes would be much higher. Go Cocks!

Then you might suffer from BDS because he's done as well as any of those coaches -- including against ranked teams.

With that said, the odds of winning at LSU aren't great. If you recall, Spurrier went into his only game in Baton Rouge favored and got blasted/embarrassed.

There should be no expectations. Just enjoy the game and see how it unfolds.

Trying to figure out how many wins we may or may not have at the end of any given season is for knuckleheads and is the thief of joy.
 

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Beamer is doing some good things; He's built a pretty decent team culture. He's done relatively well at retaining what quality talent we have on the roster, and he's done a fair job of bringing talent in from the portal.

He *NEEDS* to do two things for us to take the next step; He's gotta be better at jettisoning dead weight from his staff (looking at you OL and OC), and he has *GOT* to abandon whatever this offensive philosophy is that he has! Bring on an OC who has had success, and runs a college offense that makes the most of the talent you have on the team! If I were confident that he had the fortitude to make those necessary changes, I would have hope in him overall. I'm not holding my breath.
 

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Beamer is doing some good things; He's built a pretty decent team culture. He's done relatively well at retaining what quality talent we have on the roster, and he's done a fair job of bringing talent in from the portal.

He *NEEDS* to do two things for us to take the next step; He's gotta be better at jettisoning dead weight from his staff (looking at you OL and OC), and he has *GOT* to abandon whatever this offensive philosophy is that he has! Bring on an OC who has had success, and runs a college offense that makes the most of the talent you have on the team! If I were confident that he had the fortitude to make those necessary changes, I would have hope in him overall. I'm not holding my breath.

"NEEDS" "GOT"

Looks like The Show Pony is the next BOT up.

They've talked day and night about coaching changes for years on end.

None of it ever goes down the way they are imploring it to.

None of it.

It's a comedy show.
 

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So he needs 20 more years at Carolina? Gonna have to make the playoffs a few times to justify that kind of contract. Spurrier had 3 straight 11 win seasons in his prime here and 5 straight wins against Clemson. Still waiting on one double digit win season under Shane.
Double digit wins in the SEC are going to be very hard to come by in the new NIL world.
 
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If we can get to 6-6 this year I will be very optimistic and hopeful because I think it will mean the offense has been fixed.

What I'd really like to see in 2026 is a faster start

In all curiousness who will be SC QB next year if Sellars goes to the NFL? And how does that affect the fixed offense?
 

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In all curiousness who will be SC QB next year if Sellars goes to the NFL? And how does that affect the fixed offense?
Herein lies a major problem. It is pretty obvious that there is no quality qb waiting in the wings, the obvious solution is the portal and there probably isn't going to be another Rattler in the portal.

So, Beamer brings in a portal qb in January who gets a Spring and Fall camp with the team and the OC (new or existing). Unless the new qb is light out good, I don't see the offense improving much. We also need to bring in at least one quality RB.
 
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Gonna be 4-8. Beams doesn't have the chops and apparently (and incredibly) a bigger ego than Dabo.
Depending on Clemson’s trajectory, I’d say 4-8/5-7 is the rationale prediction right now. North Carolina definitely sucks, but Clemson was very obviously improved from their bye week.
 

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There should be no expectations. Just enjoy the game and see how it unfolds.

Trying to figure out how many wins we may or may not have at the end of any given season is for knuckleheads and is the thief of joy.
Seems so simple; too adult I guess.

I swear I’m starting to think 80-85 percent of the posters on here are AI bots; bounce around or create threads to babble the same inane nonsense over and over. Got to be.

<cue 18isthebankclerk and Lurkerpuppy to sniggle in…>
 

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Seems so simple; too adult I guess.

I swear I’m starting to think 80-85 percent of the posters on here are AI bots; bounce around or create threads to babble the same inane nonsense over and over. Got to be.

<cue 18isthebankclerk and Lurkerpuppy to sniggle in…>

Very insightful post. Lemme guess, your dad was a football coach?
 
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Coaching is paramount.
I agree. And if you look at our history, the successful eras have been when the football program has been led by those whose forte was coaching, not recruiting. I have said that for a long, long time. Let's hope that Beamer has the coaching chops.
 
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Very insightful post. Lemme guess, your dad was a football coach?
Sure was! Why does that offend you and the lurkerpuppy so? You get a girlfriend stolen by someone like me in the past?

Insightful? Lol; compared to what you and the bro bots put out I’d say yeah.
 

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You? Girlfriends? Something tells I don't have to worry about that. Just a hunch.

Holy crap. The "I'm a tough guy" act is almost as pathetic as the "everyone is out to get me" act.

I think we broke puppy's brain, and he's really losing it.
 
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Did you read the second sentence of my post that you quoted?
Yes but you quoted a poster and said that we're (meaning Carolina) not better than the "version that showed up last night" against North Carolina. You evidently think Clemson has all the sudden turned on the switch.
 

18IsTheMan

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Yes but you quoted a poster and said that we're (meaning Carolina) not better than the "version that showed up last night" against North Carolina. You evidently think Clemson has all the sudden turned on the switch.
So because I don't we've played better than the Clemson team that played UNC, that means I think Clemson is great? Can you explain how you make that leap?