I see Rutgers playing in the Rose Bowl within 5 Years

MADHAT1

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Kansas has a real coach now.
I belive Lance is going to prove to be a good one.
But that's not assured at the P-5 level.
After a great 5-0 start in his second year as Kansas' HC
the Jayhawks wound up with a 6-7 record.
But that was a major improvement then his first year 2-10 record there
He did take over a dumpster fire , so he is improving the program
 

RUAir-Raid

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The idea that it takes boatloads of money to be successful in college football won't leave the minds of some of our posters. Yes, you need super tanker loads to be Alabama/Georgia/Ohio State/Clemson. You don't need so much money to score a few TDs against Maryland, though.
This is why RU should always be a school that runs either the triple option, slow mesh, or Air Raid.
 

RUAir-Raid

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Please tell us what Schiano is doing that has he has learned from his evolution?

He’s doing the same thing as he did in 2000s
Dinosaur football!

This is why IF Schiano is fired, Hobbs needs to find someone whose offensive philosophy is tailored-made to the triple option, slow mesh, or Air Raid. Rutgers should be running once of those styles of offense.
 
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Dinosaur football!

This is why IF Schiano is fired, Hobbs needs to find someone whose offensive philosophy is tailored-made to the triple option, slow mesh, or Air Raid. Rutgers should be running once of those styles of offense.

Schiano isn’t going to be fired and he is going to get it done.
 
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I belive Lance is going to prove to be a good one.
But that's not assured at the P-5 level.
After a great 5-0 start in his second year as Kansas' HC
the Jayhawks wound up with a 6-7 record.
But that was a major improvement then his first year 2-10 record there
He did take over a dumpster fire , so he is improving the program

Kansas plays in a much easier conference and doesn’t have Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa on their schedule. Lastly they only play 8 conference games, whereas we play 9.
 

NickRU714

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Kansas plays in a much easier conference and doesn’t have Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa on their schedule. Lastly they only play 8 conference games, whereas we play 9.

Not just you but the general "well Team X doesn't have to deal with a Big Ten schedule" isn't a good response.

That's why we are getting $80m a year while Kanasas is getting much much less.
We chose to have OSU, UM, PSU, Wisconsin and Iowa.
That's what the money is for.
 

tico brown

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It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:

Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State

You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
Let’s worry about beating Nebraska, Maryland, Iowa, MSU before using the B10 card when comparing to other conferences.
 

ClassOf02v.2

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Not just you but the general "well Team X doesn't have to deal with a Big Ten schedule" isn't a good response.

That's why we are getting $80m a year while Kanasas is getting much much less.
We chose to have OSU, UM, PSU, Wisconsin and Iowa.
That's what the money is for.
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It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:

Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State

You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.

Uhhh you wanna pull up the teams we beat?

Al, there’s a difference between losing a game, and getting blown the hell off the field.

Last year Kansas put up 31 points and lost by a 7 to TCU, a team that wound up beating Michigan and ultimately played for a NC…

We got beat 37-0 and never crossed the 50 yard line by an unranked team team that was 0-3 in their previous 3 weeks coming in, little bit of a difference.

Al, honest question, what happens to RutgersAl if Greg gets fired? I know you refuse to acknowledge the possibility, but in an effort to start preparing you for the inevitable, are are going to be ok cheering for Rutgers with the same passion if we decide to move on from Schiano? This is a genuine question you need to start asking yourself because whether you like it or not, the results and ticket sales drive Pat Hobbs rescission making far more than whatever ‘RutgersAl’ has to say on the internet. You can continue to live in denial about the reality of the situation, but I’m trying to be civil and respectfully prepare a fellow RU fan for what could very easily happen in the next year or two
 

MADHAT1

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Uhhh you wanna pull up the teams we beat?

Al, there’s a difference between losing a game, and getting blown the hell off the field.

Last year Kansas put up 31 points and lost by a 7 to TCU, a team that wound up beating Michigan and ultimately played for a NC…

We got beat 37-0 and never crossed the 50 yard line by an unranked team team that was 0-3 in their previous 3 weeks coming in, little bit of a difference.

Al, honest question, what happens to RutgersAl if Greg gets fired? I know you refuse to acknowledge the possibility, but in an effort to start preparing you for the inevitable, are are going to be ok cheering for Rutgers with the same passion if we decide to move on from Schiano? This is a genuine question you need to start asking yourself because whether you like it or not, the results and ticket sales drive Pat Hobbs rescission making far more than whatever ‘RutgersAl’ has to say on the internet. You can continue to live in denial about the reality of the situation, but I’m trying to be civil and respectfully prepare a fellow RU fan for what could very easily happen in the next year or two
Another question, what happens to you when RU FB starts winning ( my guess is 5th year).
Will you find other things about the program under G2 to complain about or will you admit you expected instant gratification the moment Schiano returned and was wrong to do so

I expect once RU becomes a program that is expected to have a winning record every year, its fanbase then will demand it become playoff contenders.
That will happen in Schiano's 9th year after receiving an extension just before his 7th year starts because of posting winning records in his 5th & 6th year and playing in bowl games after each of those seasons.

By G2's 10th year there will be some in the fanbase wanting to end the reign of G2 because they feel he isn't capable of making RU FB a top program and just going to minor bowls and having 8-5 regular seasons is not the type of success that will accept.
They will demand a constant playoff contender and demand Hobbs bring in a HC that can do that .
Just kike the Greg 1 era ended with fans saying they want anational championship team and the RU AD needs to be replace G1 with someone
who can because just going to minor bowls and having an 9-4 / 8-5 record
record every year isn't enough. A National Championship must happen and Greg Schiano seems incapable of coaching well enough to make RU a national tidal contender.

By the time the G1 era ended I felt Greg preformed a mission impossible action in making Rutgers a respectable program from the type of program he took over and having a unfriendly local media nitpicking everything the RU AD Mulcahy was trying to do to help improve the RU FB program , but I felt G1 reasced his limits and to reach the next level a quality replacement might be needed.
But RU being RU , Greg left and RU went for on the cheap replacement and instead of ibecoming a top program, fell back to the bottom of pile .
Now the return of Greg means building program back to being a respected program again and that's the only thing I cae about now.
Once the winning starts back up,my expectations of greatness will start blooming and will not support G2 era continuing if I feel making the playoffs is not in the cards with him dealing
 

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It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:

Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State

You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
The current edition of RU wouldn't have been within 5 TDs of most of those teams with the offensive **** show we witnessed last season.
 
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Another question, what happens to you when RU FB starts winning ( my guess is 5th year).
Will you find other things about the program under G2 to complain about or will you admit you expected instant gratification the moment Schiano returned and was wrong to do so

I expect once RU becomes a program that is expected to have a winning record every year, its fanbase then will demand it become playoff contenders.
That will happen in Schiano's 9th year after receiving an extension just before his 7th year starts because of posting winning records in his 5th & 6th year and playing in bowl games after each of those seasons.

By G2's 10th year there will be some in the fanbase wanting to end the reign of G2 because they feel he isn't capable of making RU FB a top program and just going to minor bowls and having 8-5 regular seasons is not the type of success that will accept.
They will demand a constant playoff contender and demand Hobbs bring in a HC that can do that .
Just kike the Greg 1 era ended with fans saying they want anational championship team and the RU AD needs to be replace G1 with someone
who can because just going to minor bowls and having an 9-4 / 8-5 record
record every year isn't enough. A National Championship must happen and Greg Schiano seems incapable of coaching well enough to make RU a national tidal contender.

By the time the G1 era ended I felt Greg preformed a mission impossible action in making Rutgers a respectable program from the type of program he took over and having a unfriendly local media nitpicking everything the RU AD Mulcahy was trying to do to help improve the RU FB program , but I felt G1 reasced his limits and to reach the next level a quality replacement might be needed.
But RU being RU , Greg left and RU went for on the cheap replacement and instead of ibecoming a top program, fell back to the bottom of pile .
Now the return of Greg means building program back to being a respected program again and that's the only thing I cae about now.
Once the winning starts back up,my expectations of greatness will start blooming and will not support G2 era continuing if I feel making the playoffs is not in the cards with him dealing
Didn’t read past the first paragraph but to answer your question 100% I will happily admit I was wrong if we start winning. Nothing would honestly make me happier than to be wrong and for us to become better sooner👍
 

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It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:

Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State

You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
Don't give me it was the schedule BS. That is much tougher than these schools. They beat 3 bowl teams. When you get pasted 37-0 to a 5 loss Maryland team don't tell me it was the schedule. Sure there were 3 Top 10 teams on the schedule but the rest was made up of mediocre to bad teams. When you play 6 teams with losing records and two teams with 5 loses the excuse doesn't hold water. When you lose to 4-8 and a 5-7 team it not the schedule that is holding you back

Wagner 1-10
Temple 3-9
Boston College 3-9
Indiana 4-8
Michigan State 5-7
Nebraska 4-8
Total: 20-51

Tennessee Tech 5-7
West Virginia 5-7
Houston 8-5
Duke 9-4
Iowa State 4-8
Ok State 7-6
Total: 38-37
 
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Don't give me it was the schedule BS. That is much tougher than these schools. They beat 3 bowl teams. When you get pasted 37-0 to a 5 loss Maryland team don't tell me it was the schedule. Sure there were 3 Top 10 teams on the schedule but the rest was made up of mediocre to bad teams. When you play 6 teams with losing records and two teams with 5 loses the excuse doesn't hold water. When you lose to 4-8 and a 5-7 team it not the schedule that is holding you back

Wagner 1-10
Temple 3-9
Boston College 3-9
Indiana 4-8
Michigan State 5-7
Nebraska 4-8
Total: 20-51

Tennessee Tech 5-7
West Virginia 5-7
Houston 8-5
Duke 9-4
Iowa State 4-8
Ok State 7-6
Total: 38-37

We lost to Nebraska by 1. We lost to MSU by 6, so we were 7 points away from 6-6. Give us Kansas’ schedule, and there’s good chance we finish the same.
 

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We lost to Nebraska by 1. We lost to MSU by 6, so we were 7 points away from 6-6. Give us Kansas’ schedule, and there’s good chance we finish the same.
You really want to play that game? You beat Boston College by 1 point and Temple by 2 points. You were 3 points away from being 2-10. Last I checked 3 points was less than 7 points. So in reality you were closer to 2-10 than 6-6. So no it not a given you would finish the same. The bottom line is you still lost those games.
 
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You really want to play that game? You beat Boston College by 1 point and Temple by 2 points. You were 3 points away from being 2-10. Last I checked 3 points was less than 7 points. So in reality you were closer to 2-10 than 6-6. So no it not a given you would finish the same. The bottom line is you still lost those games.

I care about opportunities missed, not opportunities we realized. We got the well deserved W in those games, and that’s all that matters. We are making progress, even if it’s not coming as fast as some would like.
 

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One of the best college football teams in history that Greg Schiano had a prominent role in building, from ‘99 to ‘00, don’t forget. He helped do it once, he can do it again. He’s recruited elite players at Penn State, Miami, and Ohio State.

Why can’t he consistently recruit elite players at Rutgers? Because people will run their mouth on message boards but won’t open their wallet. Which is sad, because our fans have money. They just don’t want to spend it supporting Rutgers football. There’s no Wall Street and 6 and 7 figure bonuses in Ann Arbor or Columbus.

It’s the school, alumni apathy and the overall football product. We throw up the football Fieldhouse and seriously support NIL, we will win our share of championships. It’s not going to happen on its own though. It will happen because people care.

We live in the best location in America. There’s no reason why we can’t attract the best college football players in America. What is holding us back, is that when recruits visit Ohio State and Michigan, they see programs committed to the highest level of success. Those are Cadillac type programs. When they visit Rutgers, they see a Chevy type program. Almost impossible for a Chevy to compete with a Cadillac which is reflected in the recruiting. Whose choosing a Chevy when they can choose a Cadillac? We properly support this program and it will be a Bugatti!
“best location in America”. This guy produces so many knee slappers but that one’s gotta be Top 3 !1
 

bigmatt718

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Can’t see Elko coming here after being passed over last go around. And if he is making a go at it Duke he will have a helluva lot better opportunities than a rebuild at Rutgers.
Unfortunately you're probably right. 1-2 years of winning big at Duke and he'd have his pick of top tier P5 jobs. Sucks because I feel like he wouldve been the ace hire that actually believes in scoring points on offense here (Jersey guy, offense first, wins at a similarly difficult job at Duke, etc).
 
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“best location in America”. This guy produces so many knee slappers but that one’s gotta be Top 3 !1

- Best Food (Restaurants)
- Best Beaches
- Best Shopping Malls
- Best Cultural Activities
- Best Jobs
- Best Parks
- Best Highways
- Best Schools
- Best Gyms
- Best Hospitals
- Best Public Transit Network which covers entire state
- Best Overall Lifestyle

Sorry you don’t get to enjoy the same in whichever backwoods place you moved to.