That remains to be seen.So do we
Real coaches win games, so we can evaluate both after the seasonSo do we
I belive Lance is going to prove to be a good one.Kansas has a real coach now.
This is why RU should always be a school that runs either the triple option, slow mesh, or Air Raid.The idea that it takes boatloads of money to be successful in college football won't leave the minds of some of our posters. Yes, you need super tanker loads to be Alabama/Georgia/Ohio State/Clemson. You don't need so much money to score a few TDs against Maryland, though.
Dinosaur football!Please tell us what Schiano is doing that has he has learned from his evolution?
He’s doing the same thing as he did in 2000s
Prove it.
Dinosaur football!
This is why IF Schiano is fired, Hobbs needs to find someone whose offensive philosophy is tailored-made to the triple option, slow mesh, or Air Raid. Rutgers should be running once of those styles of offense.
I belive Lance is going to prove to be a good one.
But that's not assured at the P-5 level.
After a great 5-0 start in his second year as Kansas' HC
the Jayhawks wound up with a 6-7 record.
But that was a major improvement then his first year 2-10 record there
He did take over a dumpster fire , so he is improving the program
#2 TCU vs Kansas: 38-31 TCUKansas plays in a much easier conference and doesn’t have Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa on their schedule. Lastly they only play 8 conference games, whereas we play 9.
Kansas plays in a much easier conference and doesn’t have Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa on their schedule. Lastly they only play 8 conference games, whereas we play 9.
#2 TCU vs Kansas: 38-31 TCU
Maryland vs Rutgers: 37-0 Maryland
It’s definitely the schedule…![]()
Let’s worry about beating Nebraska, Maryland, Iowa, MSU before using the B10 card when comparing to other conferences.It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:
Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State
You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
Not just you but the general "well Team X doesn't have to deal with a Big Ten schedule" isn't a good response.
That's why we are getting $80m a year while Kanasas is getting much much less.
We chose to have OSU, UM, PSU, Wisconsin and Iowa.
That's what the money is for.
It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:
Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State
You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
Another question, what happens to you when RU FB starts winning ( my guess is 5th year).Uhhh you wanna pull up the teams we beat?
Al, there’s a difference between losing a game, and getting blown the hell off the field.
Last year Kansas put up 31 points and lost by a 7 to TCU, a team that wound up beating Michigan and ultimately played for a NC…
We got beat 37-0 and never crossed the 50 yard line by an unranked team team that was 0-3 in their previous 3 weeks coming in, little bit of a difference.
Al, honest question, what happens to RutgersAl if Greg gets fired? I know you refuse to acknowledge the possibility, but in an effort to start preparing you for the inevitable, are are going to be ok cheering for Rutgers with the same passion if we decide to move on from Schiano? This is a genuine question you need to start asking yourself because whether you like it or not, the results and ticket sales drive Pat Hobbs rescission making far more than whatever ‘RutgersAl’ has to say on the internet. You can continue to live in denial about the reality of the situation, but I’m trying to be civil and respectfully prepare a fellow RU fan for what could very easily happen in the next year or two
We would've gone 4-8 with their schedule, too.#2 TCU vs Kansas: 38-31 TCU
Maryland vs Rutgers: 37-0 Maryland
It’s definitely the schedule…![]()
The current edition of RU wouldn't have been within 5 TDs of most of those teams with the offensive **** show we witnessed last season.It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:
Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State
You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
I agree with Al on this one.It absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:
Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State
You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
Didn’t read past the first paragraph but to answer your question 100% I will happily admit I was wrong if we start winning. Nothing would honestly make me happier than to be wrong and for us to become better soonerAnother question, what happens to you when RU FB starts winning ( my guess is 5th year).
Will you find other things about the program under G2 to complain about or will you admit you expected instant gratification the moment Schiano returned and was wrong to do so
I expect once RU becomes a program that is expected to have a winning record every year, its fanbase then will demand it become playoff contenders.
That will happen in Schiano's 9th year after receiving an extension just before his 7th year starts because of posting winning records in his 5th & 6th year and playing in bowl games after each of those seasons.
By G2's 10th year there will be some in the fanbase wanting to end the reign of G2 because they feel he isn't capable of making RU FB a top program and just going to minor bowls and having 8-5 regular seasons is not the type of success that will accept.
They will demand a constant playoff contender and demand Hobbs bring in a HC that can do that .
Just kike the Greg 1 era ended with fans saying they want anational championship team and the RU AD needs to be replace G1 with someone
who can because just going to minor bowls and having an 9-4 / 8-5 record
record every year isn't enough. A National Championship must happen and Greg Schiano seems incapable of coaching well enough to make RU a national tidal contender.
By the time the G1 era ended I felt Greg preformed a mission impossible action in making Rutgers a respectable program from the type of program he took over and having a unfriendly local media nitpicking everything the RU AD Mulcahy was trying to do to help improve the RU FB program , but I felt G1 reasced his limits and to reach the next level a quality replacement might be needed.
But RU being RU , Greg left and RU went for on the cheap replacement and instead of ibecoming a top program, fell back to the bottom of pile .
Now the return of Greg means building program back to being a respected program again and that's the only thing I cae about now.
Once the winning starts back up,my expectations of greatness will start blooming and will not support G2 era continuing if I feel making the playoffs is not in the cards with him dealing
Don't give me it was the schedule BS. That is much tougher than these schools. They beat 3 bowl teams. When you get pasted 37-0 to a 5 loss Maryland team don't tell me it was the schedule. Sure there were 3 Top 10 teams on the schedule but the rest was made up of mediocre to bad teams. When you play 6 teams with losing records and two teams with 5 loses the excuse doesn't hold water. When you lose to 4-8 and a 5-7 team it not the schedule that is holding you backIt absolutely is the schedule. Their victories came against:
Tennessee Tech
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Iowa State
Ok State
You put us in the same field as Kansas, and we’re competitive with them.
Don't give me it was the schedule BS. That is much tougher than these schools. They beat 3 bowl teams. When you get pasted 37-0 to a 5 loss Maryland team don't tell me it was the schedule. Sure there were 3 Top 10 teams on the schedule but the rest was made up of mediocre to bad teams. When you play 6 teams with losing records and two teams with 5 loses the excuse doesn't hold water. When you lose to 4-8 and a 5-7 team it not the schedule that is holding you back
Wagner 1-10
Temple 3-9
Boston College 3-9
Indiana 4-8
Michigan State 5-7
Nebraska 4-8
Total: 20-51
Tennessee Tech 5-7
West Virginia 5-7
Houston 8-5
Duke 9-4
Iowa State 4-8
Ok State 7-6
Total: 38-37
You really want to play that game? You beat Boston College by 1 point and Temple by 2 points. You were 3 points away from being 2-10. Last I checked 3 points was less than 7 points. So in reality you were closer to 2-10 than 6-6. So no it not a given you would finish the same. The bottom line is you still lost those games.We lost to Nebraska by 1. We lost to MSU by 6, so we were 7 points away from 6-6. Give us Kansas’ schedule, and there’s good chance we finish the same.
Here’s Kansas 2022 schedule:We lost to Nebraska by 1. We lost to MSU by 6, so we were 7 points away from 6-6. Give us Kansas’ schedule, and there’s good chance we finish the same.
RU would have been lucky to go 1-11 with that schedule.Here’s Kansas 2022 schedule:
Who would the 2022 Rutgers beat?
Tennessee Tech
atWest Virginia
atHouston
Duke
Iowa State
TCU
atOklahoma
atBaylor
Oklahoma State
atTexas Tech
Texas
atKansas State
Tennessee TechHere’s Kansas 2022 schedule:
Who would the 2022 Rutgers beat?
Tennessee Tech
atWest Virginia
atHouston
Duke
Iowa State
TCU
atOklahoma
atBaylor
Oklahoma State
atTexas Tech
Texas
atKansas State
Duke won 9 games last year in year 1 of Elko. They did a nice job.Tennessee Tech
Maybe Duke
And I would actually say Texas more because it would be the most Texas thing for a 2 win team to beat them in November.![]()
You really want to play that game? You beat Boston College by 1 point and Temple by 2 points. You were 3 points away from being 2-10. Last I checked 3 points was less than 7 points. So in reality you were closer to 2-10 than 6-6. So no it not a given you would finish the same. The bottom line is you still lost those games.
Elko is who I want if Schiano 2.0 fails.Duke won 9 games last year in year 1 of Elko. They did a nice job.
“best location in America”. This guy produces so many knee slappers but that one’s gotta be Top 3 !1One of the best college football teams in history that Greg Schiano had a prominent role in building, from ‘99 to ‘00, don’t forget. He helped do it once, he can do it again. He’s recruited elite players at Penn State, Miami, and Ohio State.
Why can’t he consistently recruit elite players at Rutgers? Because people will run their mouth on message boards but won’t open their wallet. Which is sad, because our fans have money. They just don’t want to spend it supporting Rutgers football. There’s no Wall Street and 6 and 7 figure bonuses in Ann Arbor or Columbus.
It’s the school, alumni apathy and the overall football product. We throw up the football Fieldhouse and seriously support NIL, we will win our share of championships. It’s not going to happen on its own though. It will happen because people care.
We live in the best location in America. There’s no reason why we can’t attract the best college football players in America. What is holding us back, is that when recruits visit Ohio State and Michigan, they see programs committed to the highest level of success. Those are Cadillac type programs. When they visit Rutgers, they see a Chevy type program. Almost impossible for a Chevy to compete with a Cadillac which is reflected in the recruiting. Whose choosing a Chevy when they can choose a Cadillac? We properly support this program and it will be a Bugatti!
Can’t see Elko coming here after being passed over last go around. And if he is making a go at it Duke he will have a helluva lot better opportunities than a rebuild at Rutgers.Elko is who I want if Schiano 2.0 fails.
Unfortunately you're probably right. 1-2 years of winning big at Duke and he'd have his pick of top tier P5 jobs. Sucks because I feel like he wouldve been the ace hire that actually believes in scoring points on offense here (Jersey guy, offense first, wins at a similarly difficult job at Duke, etc).Can’t see Elko coming here after being passed over last go around. And if he is making a go at it Duke he will have a helluva lot better opportunities than a rebuild at Rutgers.
He's one of the names I wanted instead GS 2.0 but back then some said he's not interested. No clue on the veracity of that.Elko is who I want if Schiano 2.0 fails.
Heard he wasn’t interested coming back as a DC. Was very interested in head coaching job.He's one of the names I wanted instead GS 2.0 but back then some said he's not interested. No clue on the veracity of that.
Too bad Rutgers had a chance but they chose 2.0.Elko is who I want if Schiano 2.0 fails.
Here’s Kansas 2022 schedule:We lost to Nebraska by 1. We lost to MSU by 6, so we were 7 points away from 6-6. Give us Kansas’ schedule, and there’s good chance we finish the same.
Can’t see Elko coming here after being passed over last go around. And if he is making a go at it Duke he will have a helluva lot better opportunities than a rebuild at Rutgers.
Here’s Kansas 2022 schedule:
Where’s the wins for Rutgers in 2022?
Tennessee Tech
atWest Virginia
atHouston
Duke
Iowa State
TCU
atOklahoma
atBaylor
Oklahoma State
atTexas Tech
Texas
atKansas State
“best location in America”. This guy produces so many knee slappers but that one’s gotta be Top 3 !1