I Support Greg Schiano

LeapinLou

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Yes, he failed to get the personnel he needed either through recruiting or the transfer portal to put a serviceable defense on the field. And yes, he makes in game decisions that drive anyone with good football acumen crazy. Those things are on him. But you should also know that with no help from Hobbs and very little money from our collectives, he assembled a team that was good enough to be 8-4, with slightly better execution against Iowa, Minnesota, and Penn State. Call me an apologist all you want. But for him to do that with the help he was provided is pretty darn good.

Losing sucks but if you look reality squarely in the face, he's our best option right now.

Before you call me a homer, I'll be the first person to tell you that Pike isn't cut out for the NIL era. That program needs an exit strategy. But football needs to stay the course with coach Schiano.
 
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Rob from NJ

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As an Alum and fan, I also called President Barchi's office to put my name down on a list supporting Schiano's hiring. That was then. 6 years later all other schools that play in major conferences would have moved on from the Head Coach due to performance that doesn't meet expectations.

Posted in another thread, In 6 Years (54 B1G games played), GS has a beaten a total of 2 B1G Teams that finished with winning records. 2024 Minnesota finished at 8-4 (1 good win for Rutgers) and a 2023 NW team finished strong with a winning record. Rutgers beat NW in Game 1, the first game of David Braun taking over the program. That's it. Otherwise, Rutgers has beaten nobody else In Conference with a winning record under the GS regime. That's sad. No ranked teams, no upsets. I threw out the OOC games against weaker conferences, as well as, the Miami bowl win where Miami started their 3rd string QB and mainly developmental players, excluding Restrepo and a few others.

The fact that he wasted the best Rutgers offense in a Decade, coupled with the hiring of Robb Smith for a 3rd time while taking forever to make that hire (Smith has failed at multiple stops such as Minnesota and Arkansas), makes me a supporter for wholesale coaching change.
 

CollegeSenior

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Schiano inherited a disaster of a roster and did a pretty good job of bringing in transfers in his first few seasons to patch things up until his own HS recruits would be ready to take over. Things were going in the right direction until NIL money and free agency disrupted everything and he didn’t have the resources to compete for players. 2025 was a step backwards on the field but not so bad that I’m giving up on Schiano. I want to see what he can do with the better support he’s going to get from the AD.
 

Branchrentals

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It’s Rutgers so he’s all we got. But he’s not 8-4 so there’s that, even though that’s what you wrote for some reason.. Good game yesterday except the they scored 40 points part.

He’ll get there one day. At least keep telling yourself that. Send $.
 
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T2Kplus20

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Yes, he failed to get the personnel he needed either through recruiting or the transfer portal to put a serviceable defense on the field. And yes, he makes in game decisions that drive anyone with good football acumen crazy. Those things are on him. But you should also know that with no help from Hobbs and very little money from our collectives, he assembled a team that was good enough to be 8-4, with slightly better execution against Iowa, Minnesota, and Penn State. Call me an apologist all you want. But for him to do that with the help he was provided is pretty darn good.

Losing sucks but it you look reality squarely in the face, he's our best option right now.

Before you call me a homer, I'll be the first person to tell you that Pike isn't cut out for the NIL era. That program needs an exit strategy. But football needs to stay the course with coach Schiano.
As the saying goes, 18 is the charm! 17 seasons at RU isn't enough time. He needs an 18th season to take RU to the next level.
 

DJ Spanky

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Because nobody else he asked was willing to accept the job.

If true, why is that so?

It's either money, Schiano himself, or the hiring of a buddy, all of which is either shortsighted and/or inexcusable.

You're both kind of close - Smith was a fall back, his first choices he couldn't get for a variety of reasons. He's a demanding boss, it was known that there wasn't NIL to pull in top level, hell, even middle of the pack level talent (believe me, this stuff is known through coaching circles), uncertainty in the command structure (i.e., no AD or President), etc.
 

LeapinLou

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You're both kind of close - Smith was a fall back, his first choices he couldn't get for a variety of reasons. He's a demanding boss, it was known that there wasn't NIL to pull in top level, hell, even middle of the pack level talent (believe me, this stuff is known through coaching circles), uncertainty in the command structure (i.e., no AD or President), etc.
To emphasize this point, one of the main reasons Cignetti accepted the Indiana job was that he had tons of assurances about having money for NIL and he saw that Indiana had a VERY manageable schedule in 2024. He knew there was a high probability for success. If coaches don't see a high probability of success, they are not going to gamble on a lateral move. At least now we have a stable President and AD situation. That will help but Greg still has his work cut out for him as far as attracting a high quality D-Coordinator.
 

sct1111

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Harasymiak was a stud coordinator. Heatherman would have come here if it weren't for Miami showing the bag at the last minute.
 

Ru-baby

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Think it needs to be discussed at more length, but the DC and def staff were not up to the task and made talent differentials worse exponentially. And forget the off stats we did not maximize the O with KC. GS beat the teams we had beter talent than. He did not pull off any upsets but came close in a few. Having lived through Shea, the Flood downard spiral and enthusiasm killer era and the abysmal Ash incomeptence, we are competittive with OSU for 3 qrtrs and PSU for 4. Lets see where some NIL support gets the talent. The culture is there and a team alums can be proud of.
 

RUTGERS95

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noah Vedral and Gavin is all you need to know.

and the roster inherited by Greg was far from a disaster like the narrative some want to throw around
 
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DJ Spanky

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Mrs. Schiano we appreciate your support for your son.
However after going 15-39 in B1G games after 6 seasons the majority of rational fans say it’s time to move on.

 
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PSU_Nut

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Yes, he failed to get the personnel he needed either through recruiting or the transfer portal to put a serviceable defense on the field. And yes, he makes in game decisions that drive anyone with good football acumen crazy. Those things are on him. But you should also know that with no help from Hobbs and very little money from our collectives, he assembled a team that was good enough to be 8-4, with slightly better execution against Iowa, Minnesota, and Penn State. Call me an apologist all you want. But for him to do that with the help he was provided is pretty darn good.

Losing sucks but if you look reality squarely in the face, he's our best option right now.

Before you call me a homer, I'll be the first person to tell you that Pike isn't cut out for the NIL era. That program needs an exit strategy. But football needs to stay the course with coach Schiano.
Hust out of curiousity when does he need to actually produce? A .278 confrence winning percentage not gettign it done. Even if you forget the first 3 years he still at 9-18 or .300. At what point do all the excuses end? I mean every team can say if we excuted better in loses we would win more games. At the end of the day coaches are hired to win football games, not collect talent that can hypothetically win championships.
 
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Coaches want to know how much NIL you have.
Bingo.

Not having the NIL resources to attack the portal aggressively was a major deterrent in hiring a defensive coordinator. Every serious candidate looked at the roster, saw the massive rebuild needed after losing 8–9 key contributors to graduation plus Turay and Bailey, and their first question was, “What NIL resources do I have to work with?” We all know the answer to that.

And before anyone jumps in with, “We did have resources,” don’t be foolish. We had some, but nowhere near enough to:
  1. Recruit high school kids at a competitive level,
  2. Retain all of the impact players we wanted to keep (we lost Konga, Turay, and Bailey to Louisville), and
  3. Overhaul a defense that needed something like nine new starters.
This was never about coaches not wanting to work for Greg. It was about whether they’d have the tools to do the job at a level that wouldn’t be career suicide. Most people here wouldn’t take a job for good money right now if the structure and resources were so limited that failure was almost guaranteed—and that failure could stain their résumé for the next 10–20 years. Coaches think the same way.

We basically lost an entire starting-caliber defense. Here are the guys who were starters or clear starting-level two-deep on the 2024 D and gone for 2025:

Defensive Line
  • Aaron Lewis (DE) – Long-time edge starter, emotional leader up front, gone via graduation.
  • Kyonte Hamilton (DT/NT/EDGE) – Starting nose/inside guy who also kicked out to end late in 2024, graduated and was a 7th-round NFL pick.
  • Malcolm Ray (DT) – Starting interior DL, steady presence inside, graduation.
  • Wesley Bailey (DE) – Veteran starting-caliber edge, left via transfer to Louisville; his departure was described as “a bit messy.”
Linebacker
  • Tyreem Powell (LB) – Multi-year starter and one of their best overall defenders when healthy, graduation (and injuries derailed what could’ve been a Day 2 draft shot).
  • Mohamed Toure (LB/EDGE) – Longtime havoc guy off the edge, led the team in sacks in every season he played; initially announced he was coming back, then transferred to Miami right before the spring portal window closed.
Secondary
  • Robert Longerbeam (CB) – Three-year starting corner, graduation and 6th-round NFL draft pick.
  • Eric Rogers (CB) – Starter on the outside when healthy, graduation.
  • Desmond Igbinosun (NB / safety) – Multi-year starter at nickel/third safety, graduation.
  • Shaquan Loyal (S) – Starting safety who made multiple high-leverage plays over his career, graduation.
  • Flip Dixon (S) – Transfer safety who was their defensive MVP in 2023 and projected starter in 2024 before injuries; graduation, and his absence was called out as a turning point in the 2024 collapse.
If you draw it up on a whiteboard, that’s:
  • 4 starting-level DL
  • 2 starting-level LBs
  • 5 starting-level DBs

…which is why national previews literally describe 2025 Rutgers as having an entirely new starting 11 on defense compared to 2024 training camp.

So I ask…. What quality DC would walk into this job regardless of salary and take a full rebuild on like this without and NIL resources to address the issue?? None! That’s on top of Greg being demanding, but he is demanding BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE! Just like our players our coaches have to work harder here than at other places to overcome our deficiencies.

We NEED to get our NIL in order, so when we need a new OC, DC or HC we have that carrot to attract them. Without that resource it will be very hard to attract an any coach to come here. If we get NIL and then can get dominant P5 players the coaches job becomes easier and the job more attractive. There is a order and cycle to this…
 

Knight Shift

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Hust out of curiousity when does he need to actually produce? A .278 confrence winning percentage not gettign it done. Even if you forget the first 3 years he still at 9-18 or .300. At what point do all the excuses end? I mean every team can say if we excuted better in loses we would win more games. At the end of the day coaches are hired to win football games, not collect talent that can hypothetically win championships.
How dare you! Holding a Rutgers coach who parted the Scarlet sea and walked on water to such high standards. Be careful, our resident angry old fan will be here to tear your head off. Greg has about 3-5 more excuses before he runs out of reason why he can't get past 0.300.
 

MADHAT1

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INCOMING!!!

Few would agree with you today but I think the need is at DC and university support rather than HC.
I don't know if I truly support Greg anymore, but I do feel if Rutgers does replace him before next season, RU needs to get one considers an elite or close to being an elite game-day coach and recruiter.
Greg has built this program into one that can be elite under the right HC it they're given all the tools they need.
NIL money that compares to the top B1G programs and salaries that will bring in the best , not just pretty good to good HC and assistants.
Want to say RU has high paid assistants, go ahead, but realize Schiano hires those he's comfortable with that will coach the way he wants in game planning.
I feel top assistants want more control over their part then Greg is willing to give and that's why RU has assistants that are pretty good but not really the type that get poached or become successful HCs right after working under him.
Kyle Flood won but wasn't considered a good HC,just pretty good as the RU HC, Super Mario did well at FIU for awhile then got the boot and I feel his success at Oregon & Miami is more Nick Saban's influence than Schiano's..
Jeff Hafley learned under Chip Kelly while at the SF 49ers , but Greg did have a hand in his growing as a coach and Jeff had a losing record as BC's HC
Darren Rizzo was a great assistant , but not a winning HC in college or pro game
I would say Schiano helped make PJ Fleck into a good HC

So unless Rutgers will put up the money to fund a program ( or use the money wisely for those that say Rutgers has about the same as the top B1G programs) to give Greg's replacement all he should need to succeed ( which includes a salary that's not at the bottom of B1G FB HC;s pay-scale Greg is probably the best RU can expect to want the job
and should remain
But if Zinn is willing to pay the price it takes to win, I say thank you Greg foe making the program one that could be a top one with the right leader, but sadly that isn't you and though you have out upmost respect for what you have done, we feel you reached your limit and are brinding in someone we feel can take the program up a level and make it into a playoff contender.
 

fg7321

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Bingo.

Not having the NIL resources to attack the portal aggressively was a major deterrent in hiring a defensive coordinator. Every serious candidate looked at the roster, saw the massive rebuild needed after losing 8–9 key contributors to graduation plus Turay and Bailey, and their first question was, “What NIL resources do I have to work with?” We all know the answer to that.

And before anyone jumps in with, “We did have resources,” don’t be foolish. We had some, but nowhere near enough to:
  1. Recruit high school kids at a competitive level,
  2. Retain all of the impact players we wanted to keep (we lost Konga, Turay, and Bailey to Louisville), and
  3. Overhaul a defense that needed something like nine new starters.
This was never about coaches not wanting to work for Greg. It was about whether they’d have the tools to do the job at a level that wouldn’t be career suicide. Most people here wouldn’t take a job for good money right now if the structure and resources were so limited that failure was almost guaranteed—and that failure could stain their résumé for the next 10–20 years. Coaches think the same way.

We basically lost an entire starting-caliber defense. Here are the guys who were starters or clear starting-level two-deep on the 2024 D and gone for 2025:

Defensive Line
  • Aaron Lewis (DE) – Long-time edge starter, emotional leader up front, gone via graduation.
  • Kyonte Hamilton (DT/NT/EDGE) – Starting nose/inside guy who also kicked out to end late in 2024, graduated and was a 7th-round NFL pick.
  • Malcolm Ray (DT) – Starting interior DL, steady presence inside, graduation.
  • Wesley Bailey (DE) – Veteran starting-caliber edge, left via transfer to Louisville; his departure was described as “a bit messy.”
Linebacker
  • Tyreem Powell (LB) – Multi-year starter and one of their best overall defenders when healthy, graduation (and injuries derailed what could’ve been a Day 2 draft shot).
  • Mohamed Toure (LB/EDGE) – Longtime havoc guy off the edge, led the team in sacks in every season he played; initially announced he was coming back, then transferred to Miami right before the spring portal window closed.
Secondary
  • Robert Longerbeam (CB) – Three-year starting corner, graduation and 6th-round NFL draft pick.
  • Eric Rogers (CB) – Starter on the outside when healthy, graduation.
  • Desmond Igbinosun (NB / safety) – Multi-year starter at nickel/third safety, graduation.
  • Shaquan Loyal (S) – Starting safety who made multiple high-leverage plays over his career, graduation.
  • Flip Dixon (S) – Transfer safety who was their defensive MVP in 2023 and projected starter in 2024 before injuries; graduation, and his absence was called out as a turning point in the 2024 collapse.
If you draw it up on a whiteboard, that’s:
  • 4 starting-level DL
  • 2 starting-level LBs
  • 5 starting-level DBs

…which is why national previews literally describe 2025 Rutgers as having an entirely new starting 11 on defense compared to 2024 training camp.

So I ask…. What quality DC would walk into this job regardless of salary and take a full rebuild on like this without and NIL resources to address the issue?? None! That’s on top of Greg being demanding, but he is demanding BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE! Just like our players our coaches have to work harder here than at other places to overcome our deficiencies.

We NEED to get our NIL in order, so when we need a new OC, DC or HC we have that carrot to attract them. Without that resource it will be very hard to attract an any coach to come here. If we get NIL and then can get dominant P5 players the coaches job becomes easier and the job more attractive. There is a order and cycle to this…
THIS X ∞
 
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RUKen1

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Bingo.

Not having the NIL resources to attack the portal aggressively was a major deterrent in hiring a defensive coordinator. Every serious candidate looked at the roster, saw the massive rebuild needed after losing 8–9 key contributors to graduation plus Turay and Bailey, and their first question was, “What NIL resources do I have to work with?” We all know the answer to that.

And before anyone jumps in with, “We did have resources,” don’t be foolish. We had some, but nowhere near enough to:
  1. Recruit high school kids at a competitive level,
  2. Retain all of the impact players we wanted to keep (we lost Konga, Turay, and Bailey to Louisville), and
  3. Overhaul a defense that needed something like nine new starters.
This was never about coaches not wanting to work for Greg. It was about whether they’d have the tools to do the job at a level that wouldn’t be career suicide. Most people here wouldn’t take a job for good money right now if the structure and resources were so limited that failure was almost guaranteed—and that failure could stain their résumé for the next 10–20 years. Coaches think the same way.

We basically lost an entire starting-caliber defense. Here are the guys who were starters or clear starting-level two-deep on the 2024 D and gone for 2025:

Defensive Line
  • Aaron Lewis (DE) – Long-time edge starter, emotional leader up front, gone via graduation.
  • Kyonte Hamilton (DT/NT/EDGE) – Starting nose/inside guy who also kicked out to end late in 2024, graduated and was a 7th-round NFL pick.
  • Malcolm Ray (DT) – Starting interior DL, steady presence inside, graduation.
  • Wesley Bailey (DE) – Veteran starting-caliber edge, left via transfer to Louisville; his departure was described as “a bit messy.”
Linebacker
  • Tyreem Powell (LB) – Multi-year starter and one of their best overall defenders when healthy, graduation (and injuries derailed what could’ve been a Day 2 draft shot).
  • Mohamed Toure (LB/EDGE) – Longtime havoc guy off the edge, led the team in sacks in every season he played; initially announced he was coming back, then transferred to Miami right before the spring portal window closed.
Secondary
  • Robert Longerbeam (CB) – Three-year starting corner, graduation and 6th-round NFL draft pick.
  • Eric Rogers (CB) – Starter on the outside when healthy, graduation.
  • Desmond Igbinosun (NB / safety) – Multi-year starter at nickel/third safety, graduation.
  • Shaquan Loyal (S) – Starting safety who made multiple high-leverage plays over his career, graduation.
  • Flip Dixon (S) – Transfer safety who was their defensive MVP in 2023 and projected starter in 2024 before injuries; graduation, and his absence was called out as a turning point in the 2024 collapse.
If you draw it up on a whiteboard, that’s:
  • 4 starting-level DL
  • 2 starting-level LBs
  • 5 starting-level DBs

…which is why national previews literally describe 2025 Rutgers as having an entirely new starting 11 on defense compared to 2024 training camp.

So I ask…. What quality DC would walk into this job regardless of salary and take a full rebuild on like this without and NIL resources to address the issue?? None! That’s on top of Greg being demanding, but he is demanding BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE! Just like our players our coaches have to work harder here than at other places to overcome our deficiencies.

We NEED to get our NIL in order, so when we need a new OC, DC or HC we have that carrot to attract them. Without that resource it will be very hard to attract an any coach to come here. If we get NIL and then can get dominant P5 players the coaches job becomes easier and the job more attractive. There is a order and cycle to this…
Very well written and spot on. I am told Keli working NIL funding very hard with success. Don’t know what level of success though. It is a big part of her day.
 
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drewbagel423

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He is wondering if he still has a job ! Doesn’t want to fire anyone if he infact is the one being fired.
I want Greg gone as much as the next guy. But you're all setting yourselves up for disappointment. We aren't LSU or PSU to be able to afford these ridiculous buyouts. And it's not like anyone else is going to hire him like Franklin/VT to offset.
 

Knight Shift

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Bingo.

Not having the NIL resources to attack the portal aggressively was a major deterrent in hiring a defensive coordinator. Every serious candidate looked at the roster, saw the massive rebuild needed after losing 8–9 key contributors to graduation plus Turay and Bailey, and their first question was, “What NIL resources do I have to work with?” We all know the answer to that.

And before anyone jumps in with, “We did have resources,” don’t be foolish. We had some, but nowhere near enough to:
  1. Recruit high school kids at a competitive level,
  2. Retain all of the impact players we wanted to keep (we lost Konga, Turay, and Bailey to Louisville), and
  3. Overhaul a defense that needed something like nine new starters.
This was never about coaches not wanting to work for Greg. It was about whether they’d have the tools to do the job at a level that wouldn’t be career suicide. Most people here wouldn’t take a job for good money right now if the structure and resources were so limited that failure was almost guaranteed—and that failure could stain their résumé for the next 10–20 years. Coaches think the same way.

We basically lost an entire starting-caliber defense. Here are the guys who were starters or clear starting-level two-deep on the 2024 D and gone for 2025:

Defensive Line
  • Aaron Lewis (DE) – Long-time edge starter, emotional leader up front, gone via graduation.
  • Kyonte Hamilton (DT/NT/EDGE) – Starting nose/inside guy who also kicked out to end late in 2024, graduated and was a 7th-round NFL pick.
  • Malcolm Ray (DT) – Starting interior DL, steady presence inside, graduation.
  • Wesley Bailey (DE) – Veteran starting-caliber edge, left via transfer to Louisville; his departure was described as “a bit messy.”
Linebacker
  • Tyreem Powell (LB) – Multi-year starter and one of their best overall defenders when healthy, graduation (and injuries derailed what could’ve been a Day 2 draft shot).
  • Mohamed Toure (LB/EDGE) – Longtime havoc guy off the edge, led the team in sacks in every season he played; initially announced he was coming back, then transferred to Miami right before the spring portal window closed.
Secondary
  • Robert Longerbeam (CB) – Three-year starting corner, graduation and 6th-round NFL draft pick.
  • Eric Rogers (CB) – Starter on the outside when healthy, graduation.
  • Desmond Igbinosun (NB / safety) – Multi-year starter at nickel/third safety, graduation.
  • Shaquan Loyal (S) – Starting safety who made multiple high-leverage plays over his career, graduation.
  • Flip Dixon (S) – Transfer safety who was their defensive MVP in 2023 and projected starter in 2024 before injuries; graduation, and his absence was called out as a turning point in the 2024 collapse.
If you draw it up on a whiteboard, that’s:
  • 4 starting-level DL
  • 2 starting-level LBs
  • 5 starting-level DBs

…which is why national previews literally describe 2025 Rutgers as having an entirely new starting 11 on defense compared to 2024 training camp.

So I ask…. What quality DC would walk into this job regardless of salary and take a full rebuild on like this without and NIL resources to address the issue?? None! That’s on top of Greg being demanding, but he is demanding BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE! Just like our players our coaches have to work harder here than at other places to overcome our deficiencies.

We NEED to get our NIL in order, so when we need a new OC, DC or HC we have that carrot to attract them. Without that resource it will be very hard to attract an any coach to come here. If we get NIL and then can get dominant P5 players the coaches job becomes easier and the job more attractive. There is a order and cycle to this…
President Tate and Keli Zinn know this and they are on it:

 

Shelby65

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How dare you! Holding a Rutgers coach who parted the Scarlet sea and walked on water to such high standards. Be careful, our resident angry old fan will be here to tear your head off. Greg has about 3-5 more excuses before he runs out of reason why he can't get past 0.300.
He recycles excuses though. After each game against good teams he grabs an excuse card out of a hat. Same 6-7 (6-7 LOL) cards and hat every year. Sort of like a reverse fortune cookie.