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Would you be OK with the hire? I think he did far worse than Bobby, but someone is going to hire him. If he could get us to UL level would you be ok?

And it will never happen because of Mitch but I'm just curious.
 
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If he is guilty of covering up the rapes then I have to say no. I was and am for Petrino....He is a jerk off for leaving jobs like he did but in this business it's all about moving on up so I can't get upset over ambition. I truly don't even care about him having an affair, that's his business. I n like Briles demeanor and play style and would love to have him if he's absolved of any wrong doing. I'm not one of these choir boy supporting fans, but even I can't justify hiring a guy who helped cover up his players raping women if that is in fact the case. If we started winning I'm sure I would rationalize it and be OK anyway though. I just don't see how you can sell it so soon after the fact.
 
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MrLair said:
Would you be OK with the hire? I think he did far worse than Bobby, but someone is going to hire him. If he could get us to UL level would you be ok?

And it will never happen because of Mitch but I'm just curious.
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Nope. I am not willing to win at co-ends expense, yes I know, people could keep a close eye on him. While I could have adjusted to Petrino, pig and disloyal liar that he is, Briles is a huge step too far. I'd rather lose to 1-AA schools than have Briles represent the face of our program.
 
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Nope. I am not willing to win at co-ends expense, yes I know, people could keep a close eye on him. While I could have adjusted to Petrino, pig and disloyal liar that he is, Briles is a huge step too far. I'd rather lose to 1-AA schools than have Briles represent the face of our program.
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Art Briles is not coming to Kentucky. Period.
 
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Yeah I mean if he's cleared of knowing about the rape stuff I'd love to have him, but that's a big if and it seems like that whole thing is going to drag on for a while. I still like Brohm a whole lot. I think going for a successful non-P5 coach at this point is our best chance for success. There are a whole lot of good young coaches out there that are looking to climb the coaching ladder. We have just as much chance as anyone at landing those guys and if Mitch pulls his head out of his a** he'd realize that those coaches would love to come coach in the SEC in front of a passionate fanbase.
 
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MrLair said:
Would you be OK with the hire? I think he did far worse than Bobby, but someone is going to hire him. If he could get us to UL level would you be ok?

And it will never happen because of Mitch but I'm just curious.
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He's too old. KY needs someone younger who is a up-and-coming coach. A head coach who is a innovative offensive minded coach.
 
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Yeah I mean if he's cleared of knowing about the rape stuff I'd love to have him, but that's a big if and it seems like that whole thing is going to drag on for a while. I still like Brohm a whole lot. I think going for a successful non-P5 coach at this point is our best chance for success. There are a whole lot of good young coaches out there that are looking to climb the coaching ladder. We have just as much chance as anyone at landing those guys and if Mitch pulls his head out of his a** he'd realize that those coaches would love to come coach in the SEC in front of a passionate fanbase.
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And, the "big time" coach and "hot young coach" still has a 5-6 year rebuild to make U.K. a mid level SEC program. You cannot have instant gratification in the SEC unless you recruit the inner cities, the southern backwoods and the prison system. Mitch has sworn to a policy of never having U.K. on probation under his watch. So, we will be squeaky clean and football losers in all our lifetimes. If you want a winner, drive to Louisville or Bowling Green. If you want a winner in Lexington, odds are against you. However, our players will likely graduate, help little old ladies across the street and do good deeds in the community. This is hard to criticize and should be applauded. But, your applause at CWS will be few and far between.
 
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No. I don't want him if he has us at Alabama level in 3 years.

Can you imagine saying No to Bobby Petrino for moral reasons, and then hiring Briles for much worse out of desperation??? I'd rather take 2 wins a year for 10 years.
 
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And, the "big time" coach and "hot young coach" still has a 5-6 year rebuild to make U.K. a mid level SEC program. You cannot have instant gratification in the SEC unless you recruit the inner cities, the southern backwoods and the prison system. Mitch has sworn to a policy of never having U.K. on probation under his watch. So, we will be squeaky clean and football losers in all our lifetimes. If you want a winner, drive to Louisville or Bowling Green. If you want a winner in Lexington, odds are against you. However, our players will likely graduate, help little old ladies across the street and do good deeds in the community. This is hard to criticize and should be applauded. But, your applause at CWS will be few and far between.
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Yeah, I mean you bring up some good points, but I refuse to believe that Kentucky can't win in football, especially when I look at North Carolina, Duke, Louisville, Oregon, Michigan State, etc, etc, etc. I think Kentucky has a lot more potential than a lot of people want to recognize. All of these reasons we've heard over the years about why Kentucky can't win in football continue to be debunked. "Well we're a basketball school, we can't win". Debunked. "Well a school from the state of Kentucky can't win because there's no recruiting base." Debunked. "Only schools with tradition can be consistent winners". Debunked. I'm never expecting us to be Alabama, but there's no reason we can't be a top-25 caliber program. That's not asking too much. We have so many more advantages than our own fans even realize. We have the fanbase, the facilities, the money, the conference affiliation, the main thing we lack at this point is an athletics director with the vision to make a creative coaching hire. All things being equal this program is more attractive than schools like Duke, North Carolina and Louisville, yet the one thing that they have that we don't is an AD that can make a good coaching hire. We've been convinced that this program should just be happy with the scraps when the truth is that this program has a hell of a lot more to offer than most of our fans even realize. There's zero reason this isn't a program that could be a top-25 caliber team on a yearly basis with the right AD that's capable of hiring the right coach.
 
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Yeah, I mean you bring up some good points, but I refuse to believe that Kentucky can't win in football, especially when I look at North Carolina, Duke, Louisville, Oregon, Michigan State, etc, etc, etc. I think Kentucky has a lot more potential than a lot of people want to recognize. All of these reasons we've heard over the years about why Kentucky can't win in football continue to be debunked. "Well we're a basketball school, we can't win". Debunked. "Well a school from the state of Kentucky can't win because there's no recruiting base." Debunked. "Only schools with tradition can be consistent winners". Debunked. I'm never expecting us to be Alabama, but there's no reason we can't be a top-25 caliber program. That's not asking too much. We have so many more advantages than our own fans even realize. We have the fanbase, the facilities, the money, the conference affiliation, the main thing we lack at this point is an athletics director with the vision to make a creative coaching hire. All things being equal this program is more attractive than schools like Duke, North Carolina and Louisville, yet the one thing that they have that we don't is an AD that can make a good coaching hire. We've been convinced that this program should just be happy with the scraps when the truth is that this program has a hell of a lot more to offer than most of our fans even realize. There's zero reason this isn't a program that could be a top-25 caliber team on a yearly basis with the right AD that's capable of hiring the right coach.
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And, who is the "right coach"? That is the question eternally asked since Bear Bryant left for College Station.
 
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SanAntonioCat said:
And, who is the "right coach"? That is the question eternally asked since Bear Bryant left for College Station.
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I don't know. We had the coach of a top-10 team standing on our doorstep begging to come here a few years ago. That seems like a good place to start. Jeff Brohm would be a good hire. Go out and hire the best coach from the MAC. Go hire the best coach from the Sun Belt. Go hire the best coach from C-USA. Those guys are used to doing more with less. Or maybe we could drop our holier than thou attitude and hire a proven coach with a little baggage. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Why is it that Louisville, Duke, North Carolina, Baylor, etc can hire a good coach but we can't? All of their tradition? All of their advantages over UK? Or maybe, just maybe is it their AD?
 
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Here is wat you do you put in his contract he has to give a percentage to abused woman and he must hold clinics for abused woman on off season. Give him a chance to right his wrongs.
 
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I'm thinking letting football players rape women on campus is too much. I say hire Jim Tressell. That's a guy with dirt I would love to have.
 
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Sad, a win at any cost fan. You'd feel differently if it was your daughter who was raped at Baylor by Sam.
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Lets not act like Briles was in the room when all that happened, never the less was definitely not the first person to know about it. I'm sure that s**t took a long while to roll down hill to him.
 
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Hell yes I'd love to have him. At this point I'd love to have any coach that's actually good. I don't care if the moral police cry about it or not. Briles didn't rape anyone or commit any other crime so as long as he came here and won I'd be very happy. Just like I would have been with Petrino. That's who we should have got to begin with.
 
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buckkiller

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My previiys post in this thread is maybe an answer win win for both parties and abused woman would tecieve help.
 
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I don't think Briles could get us to UL level. UL could very well win the title this year, and you want to know something scary Lamar Jackson has to come back next year. They lose Quick and Staples but they return a ton. They lose Kelsey, Clemons, and Fields on D but have good guys behind. UL is going to be this good again next year.

Now secondarily the only way I'd want Briles is if there is a detailed investigation( which is happening now i think.) and it proves without a shadow of a doubt he didn't cover up the assaults in any way. I was a bring Petrino in guy too, but sexual assaults are a bit much. I love the idea of Tressel, he won big at every level and thats something i know translates. 1st things 1st though we have to fire the bumbling fool we do have.
 
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MrLair said:
Would you be OK with the hire? I think he did far worse than Bobby, but someone is going to hire him. If he could get us to UL level would you be ok?

And it will never happen because of Mitch but I'm just curious.
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When Stoops was hired, I bought in and was glad we didn't sniff Petrino. I believe I was wrong.
I am an alum and a fan. At this point I. Don't. Care. I don't care if everyone tells me I sold my soul. I don't care to have questionable character athletes. As long as we don't go on probation and there are no sexual assaults, I would grin as long as we win. We are in the SEC. Act like it.
 
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There are other good coaches out there. If we wouldn't hire Petrino, we sure won't hire Briles.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
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Tressel would be interedting but his offense kind of gets on my nerves. He he would open iffense up more. I know he can coah though he won titles everywhere he has been.
 
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Briles may have a little too much baggage.

Lane Kiffin and Sark. Little co-ed chasing, little drinking. Frat boy type stuff. At least you can turn those into redemption type stories. People can get behind that kind of stuff. Especially here in the south along the bible belt. Couple of sinners got off course and are now on the right path again. ESPN would eat it up, they'd send Tom Rinaldi in. A good comeback story is something that will never not sell.

I can see it now. Two maverick play boys on top of the world at USC, got HC gigs, fell from grace, one got divorced the other got drunk. Now both are on the rise with a program that has been in the dumps as well. That's damm story.

There's no coming back from rape culture.
 
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