Trading rapes for wins is not something that should even be considered. I understand the idea of not having to be a good two shoes program but this is a little much, Stoops will get it done.
If Briles could get us to UL level in 3 yrs
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"Fully capable of", I don't remember using that term, though I could have in certain contexts. No, my issue with Briles is that he brought in at least Sam who was already known to be violent towards women. Your arguments get worse and worse.
Quit with the dishonesty. I've told you, specifically, what Briles did and I've told you that repeatedly.
I'm not going to write an article on it. Look it up. He and or his staff did not report sexual assaults on campus that were reported to them in order to keep players eligible.
I'm not being hypocritical at all. Every coach has players who do bad things, every coach. That has never been the issue. The issue with Briles is two fold, what did he do when he found out about his problem players and then there is Sam, someone already known to be violent towards women. Sam wasn't a player gone bad, Sam was a predator doing what predators do. There is no comparison to Cal in that regard and there is no need to continue to work that angle. Like you all want Briles to help you win, Briles just wanted Sam to help him win, consequences be damned.
Well I said there are limit, but r refresh me on the facts of briles. Just the facts.
not exactly correct. Briles followed school policy. It was the policy that was an issue. so it was rather damned if you do damned if you don't. he either doesn't follow school policy or he doesn't act in the best interest of the person claiming to be a victim. ne never impeded law enforcement.
That's complete BS. You think he and his staff we patrolling campus, found out about rapes, and didn't report them. Lol, ok. You just completely made that up.
What, Jeremy Hunt wasn't violent towards women. Are you serious? Deandre Liggins wasn't violent towards women? Yeah, I'm the dishonest one.
When he found out about he looked the other way and covered it up and then after that other football players raped other women. I am fine with a man havig an affair with a younger woman, but looking the other way and covering up rape is a line that is uncrossable. One is immoral the other is illegal.
As I said, I'm not going to write an article for you. Search Art Briles Baylor scandal and all the info you'll ever need is available.
Most of the facts will never be fully known unless they come out in the lawsuits. I take Coach Peterson at his word when he says he FULLY informed Brikes of SAMs issues. This article has documents I've never seen. They paint a picture of Sam being out of control with immediate help from his parents being requested. It also mentions protective custody. That is a serious situation. I'm all for second chances but Sam clearly needed help, whether that would have changed anything or not is impossible to know. However, it appears Briles was told all of this and still thought it was ok to just bring Sam to Baylor. Sams ultimate behavior is not a surprise after reading that. That is on Briles. Briles made a bad call. It ruined a girls life. The liability he brings to any school will not go away. I'm not even getting into the apparent obfuscation perpetrated by the coaching staff to shield players.
http://www.texasmonthly.com/article...from-the-schools-assistant-athletic-director/
According to the law firm reviewing what happened, coaches (no names) did not follow policy.
Ive read all the articles and I've yet to read where he raped anyone, encouraged anyone to rape, covered up a rape, or didn't immediately suspend anyone charged with rape.
You can't possibly be this stupid. You used them as "evidence", so, Mr. Wizard, how about you please explain to all of us how Hunt and Liggins relate to the Briles situation.
I can't wait for the answer, of course, I know you either won't answer or you'll make another inane post that is totally off point, again.
How did he look the other way? Which player wasnt immediately suspended? It's illegal but he hasnt been charged with anything.
The problem is your stupidity. You equated a player being accused of domestic violence with rape. You claim that Briles should have know he would rape because of Sam Ukwuachu's domestic violence accusations at Boise. Thats the problem you freaking moron, you act like Briles should have know a guy with alleged DV issues would rape.
I was pointing out that Coach Cal, Rich Brooks, Joker, hell probably even Stoops have brought in guys with DV issues. We don't call them predators and assume they're rapist like you say Briles should have. You told me to mame them, I said Jeremy Hunt and Deandre Liggins, now you're confused as to how they're related to Briles. Please tell me you're not that dumb.
Like I said, you won't answer. Everyone sees what you're doing. It's pathetic. Now, since you brought them up, please explain how Hunt and Liggins relate to Briles. I'll wait again.
Asking one of these clowns how Art Briles covered up rape is exactly like asking a Cal hater how he cheats. First off they won't answer, they'll tell you to look it up, then they'll say something vague that doesn't answer the question like "the rapes at Baylor" or "2 vacated Final Fours." You then tell them that you know about the rapes at Baylor or the 2 Final Fours but what did he do? Specifically what did he do to be the scum of the earth that you claim he is. Of course they never answer and come back with calling you some for of stupid.
Really? Do you want me to type it again? Hunt and Liggins had domestic violence issues like Sam Ukwuachu had before he got to Baylor. Cal brought them back like Briles brought in Ukwuachu at Baylor.
I'm all for Briles if it doesn't come out that he actually did cover it up. However, how you can be so against Petrino, yet for Briles, is beyond me. What Briles is accused of is far worse then anything Petrino ever thought about doing.
Briles is accused of covering up rapes... I guess because not will actually say what the accusation is. There is zero evidence that Briles covered up rape. I'm not gonna assassinate a man's character based on rumors and no facts to back it up.
I'll ask you, what is he actually accused of and what evidence is there of these claims?
Neither Liggins nor Hunt had domestic violence issues before arriving on campus. In fact, Liggins never had domestic violence issues until he was in the pros. So, what is the relationship again?
Sure it is, read pages 10, 11 and 12 of the Pepper Hamilton report. It was Keyser who wants to hold Pitino responsible but somehow not Briles.
Bbfga, it's exactly the same title IX deal at UT. All about the money homey :americanflag:
Hell I raped someone in the eyes of galfnthe country today by flirting with a teachers aid this morning.
ive read about everything in the public domain. you either have something that's not or you're making things up.
I personally think you are using the world's worst analogy because Cal has only 12 to 15 kids total but to answer your question in my opinion, yes, he would hold some responsibility. Briles has 85 to 100 kids, I'm not sure how you get to know that many kids. I guess the problem is, some coach said he told Briles about the kid who did the act, certainly a coach has to be aware if it's true. If not the responsibility falls on him.
And yet, instead of doing something about it to stop it, it appears he enabled it. That makes him just as guilty as those that were "in the room".
Has our society really lost their way that much that we are willing to allow people like this to get a pass just to win freakin games?? It is a game, not life or death. Allowing rape is taking the quality of life away from those it happens to. What the hell are people thinking? I have a daughter. I can't believe the guy is still alive to be honest. Because if that were my daughter, he wouldn't be.
why you continue to speculate is beyond me. the name "Art Briles" does not even appear anywhere on pages 10, 11, or 12 - so to say you know what Art Briles did from those pages is a fabrication.