Georgia received enough votes to be considered the 26th team inthe country is bad to mediocre.
Have you seen them play?
Ill go ahead and speak for everyone who is confused
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Have you seen them play?
Nope but I have not watched many of the teams play. So I cannot say how much better/worse they are than any other team. Is Georgia better than Oklahoma. Better than West Virginia. Better than Washington State.
opcorn:But only one game ahead of the pessimistic predictions. It's not so much the number of wins/losses but the way they've performed in each. Losing to Southern Miss in epic meltdown fashion, while barely eking out wins against Vandy and an atrocious USC team are stark reminders of how poorly this team is prepared. That's on the coaches and is the reason CMS is on the hot seat.
I thought UK looked prepared against SoCar, Vandy and even Bama. Only 1 TD was scored on the defense between SoCar and Vandy games while holding Bama's offense to 27 points (a great feat this season). Also, since UK has gone towards a more run-oriented offense with a backup QB, they probably aren't going to put up a ton of points. The main thing Johnson has to do is cut way down on the TOs. If he can do that, the offense run the ball effectively with enough play-action to keep defenses honest, and keep progressing on defense, UK will be in the thick of things as for going bowling. I'm a fan of strong running and tough defensive teams as they usually seem to be steadier teams without the big ups and downs.
I saw this on HOB. In the last 3 games, each team we have played has had 11 offensive possessions each for a total of 33 possessions.
Our D has only given up 4 TDs in those 33 possessions. 3 were against Bama who averages over 40 points a game and is the #1 team in the country. The other was against USC.
It's impressive what our D is doing. We HAVE to keep it up though. Next 3 games are crucial for how the season will play out.
I guess it's bad if you're GA but if TN doesn't pull that miracle out they are 5-1 with Ol Miss being their only bad game. They are not that bad.
As a long time fan, I've just grown tired of the waiting. Really enjoyed the high points during Coach Brooks tenure but the only thing consistent about UK football is the mediocrity and inconsistency. I hope I'm proven wrong, but after 3 1/2 years of watching the current staff, I'm not convinced CMS can be anything more than mediocre.
First he's not on the hot seat, he will be back next year. Second, our starting QB went down and we're playing a backup JUCO transfer at QB who is struggling, yet we're still winning the games we should.
I'm not going to go postal over one horrendous half of football. And really, if you're looking at W's & L's, which is all that matters at the end of the day, we're one game off.
Also the one upside from the USM loss was it wasn't a conference loss, so we're 2-2 in the conference right now and could conceivable finish as high as 3rd which means we would be high enough up on the bowl pecking order to get a decent bowl.
Rick Brooks took 3.5 years before things took off.
Either way, it's very clear that our D is improving before our eyes - with a ton of these guys being RS Sophs or younger. You can refuse to see it or you can get behind them - totally up to you, doesn't matter to me either way.
They barely beat Mizzou, Nicholls St and beat USC by 14. They aren't bad for sure, but if UK can force them into passing situations we will be in decent shape. Eason will be a good one, but he has struggled a bit this year.
We do this every year with a Florida, Georgia, or Tennessee. It has to happen sometime I guess.
He's #10 on this list ( http://coacheshotseat.com/ ). It's the "winning games we should" mentality that bothers me. It's year 4 and we're still just winning games against some really crappy teams. When are we going to start a year thinking we're going to win 8, 9, or even 10 games? When are we going to stop crapping our pants against Florida? When will we be hanging 20-30 point wins on the likes of Vandy? I'll gladly eat crow when CMS does this, but until then, I'm not sold.
Guys leave TTECH / UK fan alone. He is a lot smarter and witty than us. I mean look at his brilliance "USCjr" I mean that is some really cool, big boy football knowledge stuff.
Actually it makes you look like a complete dumbass. I bet you even still use 'Loserville", UNCcheat", "Ewww TEE", I mean I want to be as cool and clever as Texas Tech / UK fan, but I just can not come up with those gems he does. He is just so damn cool and above us.
Funny we lose to the teams we are suppose to beat, we suck, when we beat them "well they are horrible, we have not improved one bit, we are supposed to beat them" Whatever it takes, if being miserable all the time helps you cope, knock yourself out.
Let me throw some knowledge on you about if we are improving or not. We got drummed by Florida. Vandy hung with Florida until the end, We handled Vandy better than Florida did. Is that improving or what is it ? The last two weeks, if you can not see that UK is improving on both sides of the ball, maybe sit the rest of the season out and leave the board to people who can discuss the team from both a short comings side, and a improving side, but do so constructive. I mean UK's offense with a QB everyone knows has issues (passing down field and accuracy), but against two VERY good defenses, they have moved the ball quite well. Do not want to hear **** about Vandy and SC not having good defenses. That is improvement. Also, Vandy has a NFL rb, we did pretty damn good stopping him.
We are two sacks from matching all of last years total. While not a great stat, that is IMPROVEMENT. We have come along pretty damn well since giving up 35 in the first half to NM State (sorry I do not have a funny catchy name for them). The second half of the NM State gsme, the Alabama game, SC game, Vandy game, all where at least decent to good performances from the defense. I noticed none of the sour pusses have tried to use the Alabama game to paint a negative portrait,,, Hum, maybe because they have improved and you do not want to admit it. I still think 5-7 is the end result, but a month ago, 3-9 was the thinking.
Actually it makes you look like a complete dumbass. I bet you even still use 'Loserville", UNCcheat", "Ewww TEE", I mean I want to be as cool and clever as Texas Tech / UK fan, but I just can not come up with those gems he does. He is just so damn cool and above us.
Funny we lose to the teams we are suppose to beat, we suck, when we beat them "well they are horrible, we have not improved one bit, we are supposed to beat them" Whatever it takes, if being miserable all the time helps you cope, knock yourself out.
Let me throw some knowledge on you about if we are improving or not. We got drummed by Florida. Vandy hung with Florida until the end, We handled Vandy better than Florida did. Is that improving or what is it ? The last two weeks, if you can not see that UK is improving on both sides of the ball, maybe sit the rest of the season out and leave the board to people who can discuss the team from both a short comings side, and a improving side, but do so constructive. I mean UK's offense with a QB everyone knows has issues (passing down field and accuracy), but against two VERY good defenses, they have moved the ball quite well. Do not want to hear **** about Vandy and SC not having good defenses. That is improvement. Also, Vandy has a NFL rb, we did pretty damn good stopping him.
We are two sacks from matching all of last years total. While not a great stat, that is IMPROVEMENT. We have come along pretty damn well since giving up 35 in the first half to NM State (sorry I do not have a funny catchy name for them). The second half of the NM State gsme, the Alabama game, SC game, Vandy game, all where at least decent to good performances from the defense. I noticed none of the sour pusses have tried to use the Alabama game to paint a negative portrait,,, Hum, maybe because they have improved and you do not want to admit it. I still think 5-7 is the end result, but a month ago, 3-9 was the thinking.
Yes, it appears there has been some improvement but in my eyes the jury is still out. They played some woefully bad teams, Alabama notwithstanding, who I think was probably looking ahead to Arkansas. I'll let the season play out, I'm not calling for CMS's head at this point. I'm behind the team 100% - I used to be ON the team. I just haven't seen the progress I think there should have been - just one man's opinion.
The goal has been, and remains to be a bowl.
If he achieves that I will be CONTENT with him another year.
If a bowl doesn't happen, I would like for him to be fired at seasons end. Then I would like to take a run at Art Briles.
Days of accepting mediocrity are coming to an end, for me. I'll always hope we win but I won't be as reluctant to change the channel to a better football game.
Fans won't accept mediocrity in basketball but they have accepted mediocre football (me included). That's simply the difference in the two programs
If he achieves that I will be CONTENT with him another year.
If a bowl doesn't happen, I would like for him to be fired at seasons end. Then I would like to take a run at Art Briles.
Days of accepting mediocrity are coming to an end, for me. I'll always hope we win but I won't be as reluctant to change the channel to a better football game.
Fans won't accept mediocrity in basketball but they have accepted mediocre football (me included). That's simply the difference in the two programs
The Art Briles who is now a consultant for the Cleveland Browns?
There are many more difference between the two programs than fan acceptance.
Yes. We should make a run at that Art Briles. That consulting job will be tough to give up, I know.
If fans stopped consuming mediocre football at the rate we do, we wouldn't be mediocre in football.
If fans stopped consuming mediocre football at the rate we do, we wouldn't be mediocre in football.
Do you not remember Jokers last year? What did the stadium look like the last couple of home games? People stopped accepting it then, but it doesn't change with 2 or three recruiting classes...this isn't basketball.
You believe anyone at UK bases their decisions on hiring and firing on a website?
We stopped accepting putrid football in jokers last year.. what happened??
What do ya know, we got a new coach.
I hear this rhetoric all the time.. "football takes longer than 3 years" "this isn't basketball"
What about Tom Herman? What about Jim Harbaugh? What about James Franklin? What about Chris Pederson? I could go on and on with coaches who have raised the level of success at a struggling program very quickly.
On average it does take longer to build a football program, but I've seen 3.5 years of poor game management, and the whole blaming us fans for the toxic environment has left a sour taste in my mouth.
If coach doesn't understand that we get upset after blowing a 25 point lead against SoMiss. Then I don't want him to coach our football team, along with other reasons.
What do ya know, we got a new coach.
I hear this rhetoric all the time.. "football takes longer than 3 years" "this isn't basketball"
What about Tom Herman? What about Jim Harbaugh? What about James Franklin? What about Chris Pederson? I could go on and on with coaches who have raised the level of success at a struggling program very quickly.
On average it does take longer to build a football program, but I've seen 3.5 years of poor game management, and the whole blaming us fans for the toxic environment has left a sour taste in my mouth.
If coach doesn't understand that we get upset after blowing a 25 point lead against SoMiss. Then I don't want him to coach our football team, along with other reasons.
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No, I was just replying to another post about the status of CMS. MB will base his decision on several things - right now he's hoping for at least 5 wins which will keep the fan base somewhat happy. If he only gets 4 wins, there will be a lot of murmuring..
Well, clearly you haven't been watching the last 3 games.
And it seems like Coach Stoops hit a sore spot with you, by calling out toxic fans. You seem to be exactly who he was speaking to.
I think the Austin Peay game will tell the real story. If we don't win the next two and don't show up against UGA and UT it could be ugly. Win the next two and it will be decent. If a Joker Vandy like crowd shows up it will be a long off season.
You are giving USC wayyyyy too much credit. When SEC teams beat us with joker here, do you think those teams thought, great win vs a team full of SEC players? I surely don't think so they took the win for what it was. A win vs a bottom dweller. And TBH, USC is where we were with joker. Just as bad. Same with Vandy. I'm not going to give too much credit for beating joker-esque type teams and act like they were fantastic wins.
I watched about every snap the last three games. I want to be able to judge improvements by competing against the best of the SEC not the worst if the SEC
The toxicity was due to results in which he was responsible for. Placing blame on others shows a lack of leadership, which is indicative of his tenure.
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And they aren't that good either.
If the Mizzou WR doesn't lose the ball on his sprint to FG range, they could have easily lost that one. So as always, those things even out.
They are clearly in rebuilding mode.
Are you saying a six win season was the most optimistic prediction? Against THIS schedule? And Stoops' Troops are one game behind that pace? In year 4?
That tells you all you need to know about this staff and what is expected from them.