I'm Not Writing off the UL Game

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It's a rivalry game...so you never know what can happen. That said...slim to no chance the game is close in the 4th IMO.
 
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cardinals1970

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When the player is Lamar Jackson then yes it does make that much of a difference. Outside of Lamar Jackson I would take our roster over UL's. You're also forgetting they play in the ACC. I would almost guarantee that UK would finish 7-5 give or take a win every year on a yearly basis if we were in the ACC. They never play anyone good. They beat a very down FSU team who I would not be surprised to see finish the season unranked. So if FSU drops out the rankings, and that's UL's best win. Then who is to say they're a top 5 team? Hell no. I think UL is very overrated. I think they're the 20th best team in country and the beneficiary of an absolutely garbage schedule. So I don't think anyone truly knows how good UL is. But a top 5 team in the hunt for a playoff spot? Nuh uh no way, that's just not the case. They're not a top 5 team. I don't think they're a top 10 team. I could see us beating UL. As we saw last season. Them without Lamar Jackson, we're a better team with a better roster. But Lamar Jackson is just that good. But if you take Lamar Jackson off that team then I truly believe both teams are equally as good roster wise with UK having a slight edge on talent. And UL having a big time edge coaching. But UL has a million times better HC, and they'll always have better records due to the piss poor schedule and conference.

But yes one player does make that team. Without Lamar that team is an average unranked team no doubt in my mind about it. I honestly think our team as a whole has better players. They just have by far the best player. And when it's the QB. It makes a huge difference. But by no means in any way shape or form is UL a top 5 team. They might end the season with zero wins over ranked teams but we want to call them top 5? Sorry just not buying it. UL is easily one of the most overrated teams. They're good but not great. Without Lamar Jackson they are NOT a top 25 team not a doubt in my mind. And I wouldn't be completely surprised to see UK pull off the upset if they figure out some type of way to contain Lamar Jackson, which is the toughest of challenges. BUT our defense is much improved. So we'll see. I really don't think UL is that good. At all. They're not the powerhouse many here make them out to be. They're a product of a weak schedule in a weak conference.
Rick Neuheisal- Former Head Coach
Eddie George- Heisman Winner
Gino Toretta- Heisman Winner
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Greg McElroy - Former Alabama QB
Phil Savage- Head of the Senior Bowl/ Alabama color analyst
Matt Leinart- Heisman Winner
Robert Smith- Former Ohio St. running back

Just to name a few totally disagree with you about UofL being overrated
 

BlueRaider22

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They certainly will be heavily favored....and for good reason. The odds are slim that we win but there is a chance. Especially in rivalry games.
 
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If the Cards win this year's game, it will take the lead in the all-time series. After the resumption of the series in 1994, UK had a 7-0 lead in the series, which included a 6-0 start by UK in games before 1924.
 

DerVille

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Rick Neuheisal- Former Head Coach
Eddie George- Heisman Winner
Gino Toretta- Heisman Winner
Butch Davis-Former Head Coach
Kyle Flood-Former Head Coach
Greg McElroy - Former Alabama QB
Phil Savage- Head of the Senior Bowl/ Alabama color analyst
Matt Leinart- Heisman Winner
Robert Smith- Former Ohio St. running back

Just to name a few totally disagree with you about UofL being overrated

Man, that dude was one of the biggest kool aid drinking homer fans I've seen in a while. Louisville's a top ten team with Lamar Jackson, without him....UK has the better team.
OK, whatever dude. I seriously laughed at that one. "Outside of Lamar Jackson I would take our roster over UL's." Jackson is good...I didn't know he was that good. Louisville is top ten but without Jackson they're worse than Kentucky. Obviously he's one of those star rankings worshipping fans. Who cares what we see on the field every week, three years ago one class was ranked 8 spots higher so that's the REAL truth about who is better.

LOL!
 
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As for where you say UL is better. DE maybe, ours are young but I like the talent of ware, Allen etc more. TE? No. You just have a QB that can get him the ball. Safety? No. Our DB's are damn good. As I said. Outside of the QB position I like UK's talent more. I like UL's coach a million times more, which counts for a lot. And I also mentioned the facility upgrades which will maintain our recruiting and keep us out of competition with Vandy. It's kind of a new UK as far as a recruits perception goes so we will be on the rise at some point. And what I was saying. How we've been finishing 5-7 lately, in the ACC that would equal 7-5 considering the difference in schedule difficulties. Give us UL's cup cake schedule of Syracuse so on and so forth.

I would guarantee at least 6 wins with that schedule. Whereas our schedule equals 4-5 wins. Also. The competition these position groups of UL play against. Are against MUCH WEAKER competition. You all did play Clemson and FSU. But I don't count FSU as a good team. And the rest of the schedule. You have Houston. They play 2 good teams this season. Yes I truly believe UK at 5-7 would equal 7-5 in the ACC if they played only 2 good games a season. And every year in the history of ever. If we played in ACC we would win more games than in the SEC, regardless of how bad we are. The ACC is garbage for football, it's not a comparison with the competition of a brutal SEC. So yes 5-7 would equal 7-5 in garbage ACC.
Yeah, FSU is no good, yet they beat one of the best teams in the SEC West in Ole Miss. Ok.
 
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As for where you say UL is better. DE maybe, ours are young but I like the talent of ware, Allen etc more. TE? No. You just have a QB that can get him the ball. Safety? No. Our DB's are damn good. As I said. Outside of the QB position I like UK's talent more. I like UL's coach a million times more, which counts for a lot. And I also mentioned the facility upgrades which will maintain our recruiting and keep us out of competition with Vandy. It's kind of a new UK as far as a recruits perception goes so we will be on the rise at some point. And what I was saying. How we've been finishing 5-7 lately, in the ACC that would equal 7-5 considering the difference in schedule difficulties. Give us UL's cup cake schedule of Syracuse so on and so forth.

I would guarantee at least 6 wins with that schedule. Whereas our schedule equals 4-5 wins. Also. The competition these position groups of UL play against. Are against MUCH WEAKER competition. You all did play Clemson and FSU. But I don't count FSU as a good team. And the rest of the schedule. You have Houston. They play 2 good teams this season. Yes I truly believe UK at 5-7 would equal 7-5 in the ACC if they played only 2 good games a season. And every year in the history of ever. If we played in ACC we would win more games than in the SEC, regardless of how bad we are. The ACC is garbage for football, it's not a comparison with the competition of a brutal SEC. So yes 5-7 would equal 7-5 in garbage ACC.
Here is the other thing I'll throw your way regarding your thoughts on the strength of the ACC and how Kentucky would fare in our league:

Georgia Tech beat Vandy this year 38-7. Kentucky struggled to beat Vandy. South Carolina struggled to beat Vandy. Florida struggled to beat Vandy. And yet Georgia Tech is 1-3 so far in the ACC this season.

You are basically overestimating how good Kentucky is and underestimating how good the ACC is. The ACC is one of the stronger conferences now.
 
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CardHack

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I'm only going to defend andre's post about outside of Lamar Jackson he'd take Kentucky's roster by saying he probably doesn't really know Louisville's roster.

...but if you wouldn't take Jaire Alexander as a cornerback at the least after the show he put on against Florida State and Clemson you have a full fledged heroine addiction to address. I'd say the same to an extent with Shaq Wiggins, but he hasn't taken the field since the first snap of the second half of the FSU game and was mightily missed as it turned out against Clemson.
 

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This post was clearly click-bait by a UL troll. All of the usual UL types are over here in full force just to giggle and present all of their usual talking points while anyone with half a brain knows that the OP is either A) Dumb or B ) a UL fan. It was actually kind of nice not having them here for a while, but I know that the 11 people that are on their board every day probably make for a slow day for them.

Enjoy it while you can.
 

UKWinsAgainYep

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UL does not have a superb defense. GooD yes. But to use the word superb is silly. The problem is UK has below average offense. A good offense can score 40 on UL.

which we will......Our offense will continue to get better and we will run the ball on UL......UL will not handle Boom and Snell. Yes, I really believe that.
 
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which we will......Our offense will continue to get better and we will run the ball on UL......UL will not handle Boom and Snell. Yes, I really believe that.
What about the way Kentucky has played offensively this year makes you think they'll score 40 on Louisville? You scored 7 points on Florida, 17 on South Carolina, 6 on Bama and 20 points on Vanderbilt. You scored 35 on Southern Mississippi and I'm fairly certain Louisville has a lot better defense than Southern Miss.
 

CatsFanGG24

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What about the way Kentucky has played offensively this year makes you think they'll score 40 on Louisville? You scored 7 points on Florida, 17 on South Carolina, 6 on Bama and 20 points on Vanderbilt. You scored 35 on Southern Mississippi and I'm fairly certain Louisville has a lot better defense than Southern Miss.

Op may be nuts...but a Nole cannot discuss UL football this season. Let us live -you had your chance.
 
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He probably isn't even really a FSU fan. Probably a UL troll.
Nope. I'm an FSU alum and fan. Louisville kicked our butts this year. And as I've pointed out in other posts we have a good team too. We've beaten 2 ranked opponents this year in Ole Miss and Miami and also beat South Florida who is 5-1 on the season. We've probably played the toughest schedule in the country this year. Sagarin rates our schedule #2 in the country. So that hardly unqualifies me to talk about Louisville. Louisville is a very good team. The spread will probably be 30-35 points (maybe more) in the Louisville/Kentucky game this year.
 

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Fact is, we need to dominate the state in football. It is time to start beating UL consistently.

I believe by the end of the season, this offense will be able to score on anyone and we have a chance to win against UL.

Yes, their QB is incredible, but injuries could happen before that and I also trust Stoops to have a good defensive gameplan to try and limit his damage.
I don't believe in "writing off" any game. But if you really believe this Kentucky team is going to beat this Louisville team in the Pizza Parlor, then you haven't been paying attention to either of them. When the game doesn't work out the way you want, please don't waste anyone's time by coming on here and blasting Mark Stoops or Steve Johnson over it.
 

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David Cutcliffe Is very good

agree, Cutcliffe is a very sound coach, not unlike Rich Brooks, not a lot of charisma, not a great recruiter, but knows how to manage a game and develop a roster with 2 and 3 star kids.

I agree with the OP that UK has a small chance, UL is not Alabama or Ohio State, but it would be a really big upset, for sure.
 

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agree, Cutcliffe is a very sound coach, not unlike Rich Brooks, not a lot of charisma, not a great recruiter, but knows how to manage a game and develop a roster with 2 and 3 star kids.

I agree with the OP that UK has a small chance, UL is not Alabama or Ohio State, but it would be a really big upset, for sure.

Everyone in conference play right now...anyone -(Louisville fans) included that expects a easy ride the rest of the way is fooling themselves in any P5 Conference...right now watching Clemson-NC State in a very physical game...Clemson 3 NC State 3 well into the 2nd Quarter.
 
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I can't see it myself but I hope the OP is right. I do think facing them the last game of the season, and being able to review the vids on how other's have contained Jackson could help. Still, it's one thing to know what to do, it's another to do it, and our D isn't exactly our strong point. I'm thinking UL by 30 or more. And I promise you all it pains me greatly to say that.
 

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Rick Neuheisal- Former Head Coach
Eddie George- Heisman Winner
Gino Toretta- Heisman Winner
Butch Davis-Former Head Coach
Kyle Flood-Former Head Coach
Greg McElroy - Former Alabama QB
Phil Savage- Head of the Senior Bowl/ Alabama color analyst
Matt Leinart- Heisman Winner
Robert Smith- Former Ohio St. running back

Just to name a few totally disagree with you about UofL being overrated

That's just their opinion. Without some questionable calls, Duke would have beat them.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

tonyyw

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Fact is, we need to dominate the state in football. It is time to start beating UL consistently.

I believe by the end of the season, this offense will be able to score on anyone and we have a chance to win against UL.

Yes, their QB is incredible, but injuries could happen before that and I also trust Stoops to have a good defensive gameplan to try and limit his damage.
Beat UL consistently? You are delusional! Lets just try for one time...go big blue
 

Gabewcat

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Dukde had the blueprint into how to play UL. Grind it out on offense & keep Lamar Jackson off the field. If Duke had not roughed the UL kicker on a miss FG attempt, you might have had a collassal Upset. UK has the horses to keep Jackson on the bench, it is a mattter of executing and not give away the ball.