Is this a hold that should have been called?

[CrustyCat]

Question: Is this holding, and/or should it have been called? I did not get to watch the game, so I don't know if it was called or not. It looks to me to be a blatant hold and one that was out in the open, right at the point of the action (i.e. the fumble and attempted recovery). Full disclosure: I can't stand SEC officials and believe a number of them to be either corrupt, incompetent, or biased.

 

[bthaunert]

Not sure (someone correct me if I am wrong), but if there is a free ball (i.e. a fumble), then that hold is allowed. You see it all the time when players are trying to keep one another from grabbing a fumble.

Was looking into it a little more. Seems as if "pulling" a player in an effort to recover or keep someone from getting a loose ball is legal, but anything that "restrains" a player is illegal, so i was wrong I believe.

 

[Nuke99m.]

I hate to be that guy but there is a hold on every play if they want to call it. That looks like a hold but that looks like the play where their QB lost the snap. All the eyes of the referees went to the fumble and quit looking for holds. It's just human nature.

 

[TBCat]

yeah that was a missed call. I believe I remember that play during the game and I was screaming at the TV. It looked pretty clear to me on the TV but I guess offensive holding is hard to catch during live action if it occurs inside the shoulders. You usually see it get caught when the hands are outside.

 

[Anon1660081258]

Their RT was holding all night long.

 

[Gary4UK]

Just a poorly called game... That's why Stoops was going nuts on the sideline.. All the officials think it's because he's under a lot of pressure to win, but Stoops had it up to here with the calls...

 

[willievic]

The no-call in the last drive, the horse -collar, where the ref was looking right at it, and didn't call it, was the "Straw that broke the camel's back" as far as Coach Stoops was concerned. That no-call could have cost us the game. I realize the officials have a tough job, but sometimes they appear to favor the team who is supposed to win. An excellent example is Ohio State and Alabama. They get a lot of favorable calls, or so it appears to me.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[jauk11]

Not sure (someone correct me if I am wrong), but if there is a free ball (i.e. a fumble), then that hold is allowed. You see it all the time when players are trying to keep one another from grabbing a fumble.

Was looking into it a little more. Seems as if "pulling" a player in an effort to recover or keep someone from getting a loose ball is legal, but anything that "restrains" a player is illegal, so i was wrong I believe.

Not sure of the difference in restraining and holding, but I remember reading this about the rules, I can't remember if it was in a rules book or a rules interpretation but they said that a loose ball play is the only play in football where all the rules are suspended. Pretty close to the way they call it.

 

[bthaunert]

Not sure of the difference in restraining and holding, but I remember reading this about the rules, I can't remember if it was in a rules book or a rules interpretation but they said that a loose ball play is the only play in football where all the rules are suspended. Pretty close to the way they call it.

I agree. Can't remember any time I have ever seen a hold called and it happens a lot during scrambles for a fumble.

 

[willyclyde]

Hold or not, we have to get to the point where a call here or there doesn't affect the game as much as it did Saturday. Score when your up 10 in the red zone and don't give the officials a chance to even be a factor in the outcome. We're close, but not quite there yet. Beat Missouri!!

 

[wildcatdon]

On the drive where it was 3rd and 22 and their Q back scrambled to the right for 20 yards, Ware was held by one of their guards and he had a handful of jersey that would make any cheater proud .. what should have and would have been a sack, Turned into a score if I,m not mistaken . It was a joke of a non-call and the ref was right there and did nothing. Ware was asking for a flag and never got it. It was a joke.

 

[WildCard]

Not sure of the difference in restraining and holding, but I remember reading this about the rules, I can't remember if it was in a rules book or a rules interpretation but they said that a loose ball play is the only play in football where all the rules are suspended. Pretty close to the way they call it.

This ^^^

I'm not going to look it up but that was always my understanding of the rules. It is a free ball and the only rules that would be "in force" would be personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct type action.

As far as the OPs game shot, you will see a lot more than that "hold" on practically every snap! [laughing]

And (not that anyone here cares) on another board, a Cardinal fan posted I believe 5 separate screen grabs of Clemson's star DB holding about a foot of stretched jersey in every shot. Not a single holding/PI penalty was called on those plays.

Peace

 

[80 Proof]

The refs missed a lot of MSU penalties on Saturday. Pretty pathetic performance by the zebras.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

I hate to be that guy but there is a hold on every play if they want to call it. That looks like a hold but that looks like the play where their QB lost the snap. All the eyes of the referees went to the fumble and quit looking for holds. It's just human nature.

Very true.