Non football related incident that occurred off campus. Highly unlikely he comes back.Where is he?
If Donte does one thing may it be to explain to our players if they exhibit poor judgment and bad behavior away from the team there is no place for them on the team or in our school.Non football related incident that occurred off campus. Highly unlikely he comes back.
Can’t win Natties with that attitude.If Donte does one thing may it be to explain to our players if they exhibit poor judgment and bad behavior away from the team there is no place for them on the team or in our school.
I hope you don't have kids.We're not running a day care center, we're trying to get a winning football program. If all other schools had the same discipline standards, then it would equalize. But they don't. So USC should focus on winning and forget the self-righteous attitude about conduct.
Many people posting here went to USC before the era of cameras everywhere and cell phones. What do you think happened every night around campus? Let's not pretend that pranks and "unauthorized" conduct didn't happen. And that's just the regular students.
How about the football players? Coke machine out the upper floor window? Cadaver? Never happened, right?
Boys will be boys in the good old days. Like Sgt. Schultz, the administration looked the other way then.
If the police get involved, that's between the player and the law. As far as the fans go, just win. If you need a blow off a little steam like every other student, give the kids the benefit of the doubt.
I guess they took it the wrong way and I guess my post was ambiguous and left too much room for interpretation. I really meant if you get in a heated fight with your girlfriend walk away before things get out of hand and stuff like that but I know where they are coming from, too. Anyway we are down two good football players.I hope you don't have kids.
You do know that it's possible to be a good athlete and a good person, right? Why would the standard be anything less than that?
Boys will be boys...gtfoh. This is the type of guidance that will get a kid locked up or fked up nowadays.
We're not running a day care center, we're trying to get a winning football program. If all other schools had the same discipline standards, then it would equalize. But they don't. So USC should focus on winning and forget the self-righteous attitude about conduct.
Many people posting here went to USC before the era of cameras everywhere and cell phones. What do you think happened every night around campus? Let's not pretend that pranks and "unauthorized" conduct didn't happen. And that's just the regular students.
How about the football players? Coke machine out the upper floor window? Cadaver? Never happened, right?
Boys will be boys in the good old days. Like Sgt. Schultz, the administration looked the other way then.
If the police get involved, that's between the player and the law. As far as the fans go, just win. If you need a blow off a little steam like every other student, give the kids the benefit of the doubt.
To be clear, sexual assault allegations, whether legit or not, are not instances of "boys being boys".We're not running a day care center, we're trying to get a winning football program. If all other schools had the same discipline standards, then it would equalize. But they don't. So USC should focus on winning and forget the self-righteous attitude about conduct.
Many people posting here went to USC before the era of cameras everywhere and cell phones. What do you think happened every night around campus? Let's not pretend that pranks and "unauthorized" conduct didn't happen. And that's just the regular students.
How about the football players? Coke machine out the upper floor window? Cadaver? Never happened, right?
Boys will be boys in the good old days. Like Sgt. Schultz, the administration looked the other way then.
If the police get involved, that's between the player and the law. As far as the fans go, just win. If you need a blow off a little steam like every other student, give the kids the benefit of the doubt.
Any top team, or contending team, then and now, had and has shenanigans. Nobody should pretend otherwise.One day I was talking to his mom and stepfather. I was wearing a USC ball cap and she asked if anyone around Athens ever gave me a hard time about it? I told her not really, mostly just stuff about us paying Reggie Bush.
Her exact words were “ If those idiots knew half of what went on at Georgia, they wouldn’t say a word”
That coming from a Top 5-10 player in Georgia History’s mother, and Mark Richt, Mr Goody Two Shoes was still coach.
Now? Sheesh, who knows?
A couple thoughts....yes, I think things were different once upon a time. I don't know how we went from what most would consider "mostly innocent" stuff, to sexual assault, physical altercations, etc. That's for another thread on the OT.Boys were boys for 4 years at USC. Maybe you and I differ on what that means. In the good old days, pranks were daily occurrences. Pranks help kids learn to be creative. Sometimes people take things too far. I know lots of very successful people that did lots of stuff back in the day.
You're statement is accurate that kids need to be more careful today. Today's world is a camera filled, finger pointed hell compared to our youth.
I know plenty of people you might think are successful that acted like kids when they were kids, starting with our chairman.
Title IX got it on lockdownNot to change the subject, but a bigger question for me is, Where's our running game in general??
John McKay respectfully disagrees.I hope you don't have kids.
You do know that it's possible to be a good athlete and a good person, right? Why would the standard be anything less than that?
Boys will be boys...gtfoh. This is the type of guidance that will get a kid locked up or fked up nowadays.
John McKay respectfully disagrees.
Haven't you seen the movie "The Program"? The QB had to keep his "edge", so he'd play chicken w/ an oncoming train. Come on man, get on board! Boys will be boys, you're welcome for the entertainment!Cool. I'm not really concerned with your hypothetical disagreement, from a coach that last ran a college program 46 years ago. That was the world he lived in and I'm not trying to go back and change history.
The world has changed since then though. "boys will be boys" is no longer an acceptable response to young men trampling over everyone else to have their "fun".
Being a good person is easy and it costs nothing. Why lower the bar for good football players?
Oddly, there were less problems with that culture, reported or not, because times were just different. You can't ignore that."Boys will be boys" culture.
Oddly, there were less problems reported with that culture, because times were just different. You can't ignore that.Oddly, there were less problems with that culture, reported or not, because times were just different. You can't ignore that.
And Rey “owned the police.”Oddly, there were less problems reported with that culture, because times were just different. You can't ignore that.
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What evidence do you have USC is clean? Their resent history of lying and cheating does not back that up.Can’t win Natties with that attitude.
I’m being facetious, but USC is already overly pro active on discipline IMO. Other schools are basically no blood no harm no foul, unless it isn’t MUCH blood, then you’re good to go then.
About 8-9 years ago I renovated Jon Stinchcomb’s swimming pool. He’s the greatest lineman in UGA history, played on the Saints Super Bowl Team and a gigantic human being. Very nice too.
One day I was talking to his mom and stepfather. I was wearing a USC ball cap and she asked if anyone around Athens ever gave me a hard time about it? I told her not really, mostly just stuff about us paying Reggie Bush.
Her exact words were “ If those idiots knew half of what went on at Georgia, they wouldn’t say a word”
That coming from a Top 5-10 player in Georgia History’s mother, and Mark Richt, Mr Goody Two Shoes was still coach.
Now? Sheesh, who knows?
Sarcasm isn't your strength, is it?Cool. I'm not really concerned with your hypothetical disagreement, from a coach that last ran a college program 46 years ago. That was the world he lived in and I'm not trying to go back and change history.
The world has changed since then though. "boys will be boys" is no longer an acceptable response to young men trampling over everyone else to have their "fun".
Being a good person is easy and it costs nothing. Why lower the bar for good football players?
Unfortunately, sarcasm is difficult to detect on this topic, unless you make it very clear. Your tone was similar to some people who are being 100% serious on the topic.Sarcasm isn't your strength, is it?
Name any NC coach who is squeaky clean and meets your standard. Even John Wooden cheated, although he preferred to look the other way. It isn't possible.
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I hadn’t heard either. Was he in fact accused of misconduct and suspended?Im a bit lost, is Kenan suspended, and/or accused of misconduct?
This is what is referred to as the bottom-line. Very disappointing. Lost are facts as to why.Im a bit lost, is Kenan suspended, and/or accused of misconduct?
Oddly, there were less problems reported with that culture, because times were just different. You can't ignore that.
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If we're talking paintball gun silliness, the occasional bar fight or the like...sure, handle it internally. If it becomes a pattern, then it's not really being handled. But yes, we shouldn't conflate "shenanigans" w/ actual crimes. Doesn't further the conversation any.To clarify, sexual battery is not "boys will be boys." I'm referring to the daily occurrences of student life. I am not aware of any case of sexual battery, or even a guy hitting a girl after first being hit, during my years at USC. Maybe there were indigents, but I'm not aware of any.