Kentucky's Coaches Could Learn a Thing or Two from Art Briles

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So, I'm was reading an article about the end of Baylor's season a year ago and it's really, really interesting.

The gist of the article is that Baylor found itself without a true quarterback at the end of last season. While the local and national media were writing a collective eulogy for Baylor's season, Briles got to work. Taking some of the principles already built in to the team's running game, Briles turned his fun and gun squad and turned them into a lethal single-wing running machine. Against Texas and then a bowl game against North Carolina, Baylor racked up 1045 yards. That's not a typo: 520 yards a game. Yikes.

The lesson here? Well, it's not necessarily that Briles can/should/would be the next option if Stoops is shown the door; Briles is over 60 years old, and the stigma attached to his name would make him a hot potato for all but the most desperate AD's. Nor is the lesson that UK should hurry up and adopt the single-wing.

The lesson is much more elemental: keep and open mind and don't be afraid to take risks!

Briles took a look at his roster and decided to build an offense around the talent he had, not the talent he wanted. By doing this, he avoided the trap that catches so many coaches: trying to "make" his talent fit his scheme. I wonder if Kentucky's coaches have the humility do the same? Stoops attachment to the 3-4 (when he doesn't have adequate 3-4 personnel) smacks of the kind of arrogance that Briles avoided. Gran seems to "get" that his scheme must change now that Barker has gone down, but is he ready to make radical change to try to catch the big boys off guard?

We may well beat Vandy / Mizzou / Austin Peay / Miss St. running a traditional offense and Stoops' hybrid 3-4, but we most likely don't stand much of a chance against Georgia / Tenn / UofL. In one (or all) of those games, what would be the harm in doing something truly radical? What if Stoops pulled out the 46 defense or a 4-2-5 against Louisville? What if Gran shocked UT by suddenly adopting GaTech's flexbone offense (seriously, Boom and Kemp as the razor and Snell as the hammer!)? It might not work; hell, it most likely won't work, but at least your putting it all on the line to win. Do our coaches have that type or courage, or will they go down playing "my scheme"?
 

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Regardless, Art Briles is an excellent head coach.. One of the better and more experienced head coaches we might have a chance at.

This Saturday is huge for Stoops
 

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So, I'm was reading an article about the end of Baylor's season a year ago and it's really, really interesting.

The gist of the article is that Baylor found itself without a true quarterback at the end of last season. While the local and national media were writing a collective eulogy for Baylor's season, Briles got to work. Taking some of the principles already built in to the team's running game, Briles turned his fun and gun squad and turned them into a lethal single-wing running machine. Against Texas and then a bowl game against North Carolina, Baylor racked up 1045 yards. That's not a typo: 520 yards a game. Yikes.

The lesson here? Well, it's not necessarily that Briles can/should/would be the next option if Stoops is shown the door; Briles is over 60 years old, and the stigma attached to his name would make him a hot potato for all but the most desperate AD's. Nor is the lesson that UK should hurry up and adopt the single-wing.

The lesson is much more elemental: keep and open mind and don't be afraid to take risks!

Briles took a look at his roster and decided to build an offense around the talent he had, not the talent he wanted. By doing this, he avoided the trap that catches so many coaches: trying to "make" his talent fit his scheme. I wonder if Kentucky's coaches have the humility do the same? Stoops attachment to the 3-4 (when he doesn't have adequate 3-4 personnel) smacks of the kind of arrogance that Briles avoided. Gran seems to "get" that his scheme must change now that Barker has gone down, but is he ready to make radical change to try to catch the big boys off guard?

We may well beat Vandy / Mizzou / Austin Peay / Miss St. running a traditional offense and Stoops' hybrid 3-4, but we most likely don't stand much of a chance against Georgia / Tenn / UofL. In one (or all) of those games, what would be the harm in doing something truly radical? What if Stoops pulled out the 46 defense or a 4-2-5 against Louisville? What if Gran shocked UT by suddenly adopting GaTech's flexbone offense (seriously, Boom and Kemp as the razor and Snell as the hammer!)? It might not work; hell, it most likely won't work, but at least your putting it all on the line to win. Do our coaches have that type or courage, or will they go down playing "my scheme"?
If you are hinting that Mark Stoops should do this or would ever even consider doing this... you need to listen to his press conference today when he pretty much said that you've got to do what you believe in and continue to do it come hell or high water so I think you can cross out that's something that he would ever consider doing and that is basically why he is working on his third OC in 4 years.
 
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So, I'm was reading an article about the end of Baylor's season a year ago and it's really, really interesting.

The gist of the article is that Baylor found itself without a true quarterback at the end of last season. While the local and national media were writing a collective eulogy for Baylor's season, Briles got to work. Taking some of the principles already built in to the team's running game, Briles turned his fun and gun squad and turned them into a lethal single-wing running machine. Against Texas and then a bowl game against North Carolina, Baylor racked up 1045 yards. That's not a typo: 520 yards a game. Yikes.

The lesson here? Well, it's not necessarily that Briles can/should/would be the next option if Stoops is shown the door; Briles is over 60 years old, and the stigma attached to his name would make him a hot potato for all but the most desperate AD's. Nor is the lesson that UK should hurry up and adopt the single-wing.

The lesson is much more elemental: keep and open mind and don't be afraid to take risks!

Briles took a look at his roster and decided to build an offense around the talent he had, not the talent he wanted. By doing this, he avoided the trap that catches so many coaches: trying to "make" his talent fit his scheme. I wonder if Kentucky's coaches have the humility do the same? Stoops attachment to the 3-4 (when he doesn't have adequate 3-4 personnel) smacks of the kind of arrogance that Briles avoided. Gran seems to "get" that his scheme must change now that Barker has gone down, but is he ready to make radical change to try to catch the big boys off guard?

We may well beat Vandy / Mizzou / Austin Peay / Miss St. running a traditional offense and Stoops' hybrid 3-4, but we most likely don't stand much of a chance against Georgia / Tenn / UofL. In one (or all) of those games, what would be the harm in doing something truly radical? What if Stoops pulled out the 46 defense or a 4-2-5 against Louisville? What if Gran shocked UT by suddenly adopting GaTech's flexbone offense (seriously, Boom and Kemp as the razor and Snell as the hammer!)? It might not work; hell, it most likely won't work, but at least your putting it all on the line to win. Do our coaches have that type or courage, or will they go down playing "my scheme"?

Thats a good concept, but unless you have WR with the ability to play those wings UK doesn't have enough depth at RB to run that offense. UK has recruited to use multiple WR and almost all of them are the tall rangy types. A better concept would be what Gus does, or tries to do with his offense at AU. His concept is the same with having to stop the dive first, then when he gets to the edge he has 3 receivers on running different depth routes, it actually gives the qb 4 options. The only issue is he has to have a great athlete who has some passing ability to run it correctly. Cam was excellent, but he was the size of an athletic TE with the ability to throw the ball. Nick Marshall was great at it, he was probably a better passer, faster but much easier to get on the ground. Not many of those guys around, Kelly at OM, Dobbs at UT are about the only ones in the conference now who would excell at it.

But to your idea of running a triple option offense out of the flexbone, you have to have that running threat at qb, without it who cares if he keeps it, give him a couple yards and receive the punt on 4th down.
 

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Yes, we can learn a lot from Briles. Like how to "investigate" and cover up rape all in-house. No need for trained professionals! We really have to adopt his stance that women being raped is far less important than having a good football team.
 
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Yes, we can learn a lot from Briles. Like how to "investigate" and cover up rape all in-house. No need for trained professionals! We really have to adopt his stance that women being raped is far less important than having a good football team.

I'm not taking up for Briles because I don't know what happened there. But did the victim not go to the police?
 

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So, I'm was reading an article about the end of Baylor's season a year ago and it's really, really interesting.

The gist of the article is that Baylor found itself without a true quarterback at the end of last season. While the local and national media were writing a collective eulogy for Baylor's season, Briles got to work. Taking some of the principles already built in to the team's running game, Briles turned his fun and gun squad and turned them into a lethal single-wing running machine. Against Texas and then a bowl game against North Carolina, Baylor racked up 1045 yards. That's not a typo: 520 yards a game. Yikes.

The lesson here? Well, it's not necessarily that Briles can/should/would be the next option if Stoops is shown the door; Briles is over 60 years old, and the stigma attached to his name would make him a hot potato for all but the most desperate AD's. Nor is the lesson that UK should hurry up and adopt the single-wing.

The lesson is much more elemental: keep and open mind and don't be afraid to take risks!

Briles took a look at his roster and decided to build an offense around the talent he had, not the talent he wanted. By doing this, he avoided the trap that catches so many coaches: trying to "make" his talent fit his scheme. I wonder if Kentucky's coaches have the humility do the same? Stoops attachment to the 3-4 (when he doesn't have adequate 3-4 personnel) smacks of the kind of arrogance that Briles avoided. Gran seems to "get" that his scheme must change now that Barker has gone down, but is he ready to make radical change to try to catch the big boys off guard?

We may well beat Vandy / Mizzou / Austin Peay / Miss St. running a traditional offense and Stoops' hybrid 3-4, but we most likely don't stand much of a chance against Georgia / Tenn / UofL. In one (or all) of those games, what would be the harm in doing something truly radical? What if Stoops pulled out the 46 defense or a 4-2-5 against Louisville? What if Gran shocked UT by suddenly adopting GaTech's flexbone offense (seriously, Boom and Kemp as the razor and Snell as the hammer!)? It might not work; hell, it most likely won't work, but at least your putting it all on the line to win. Do our coaches have that type or courage, or will they go down playing "my scheme"?

Brown and Stoops completely modified the offense in year one, making read option a key component, because we had Whitlow at QB and no WRs. Gran and Stoops are attempting to modify with Johnson at the wheel. Stoops has shown far less 3 man fronts. So, it appears the answer is yes, by example.
 
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I'm not taking up for Briles because I don't know what happened there. But did the victim not go to the police?
Yup, that's what they want you to believe. Victim went to Art Briles, not the police. Art Briles after learning victim had been raped proceeded to somehow cover up the rape. They wont say how he covered up the rape because they are flat out lying of course but maybe they want you to believe he intimidated the victim, forced her to shower, and hid evidence. He covered up rape but was not prosecuted and was paid a $21 million buyout. Seems legit.
 
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Yup, that's what they want you to believe. Victim went to Art Briles, not the police. Art Briles after learning victim had been raped proceeded to somehow cover up the rape. They wont say how he covered up the rape because they are flat out lying of course but maybe they want you to believe he intimidated the victim, forced her to shower, and hid evidence. He covered up rape but was not prosecuted and was paid a $21 million buyout. Seems legit.

If you're buying everything he's selling, you're a nitwit: http://deadspin.com/the-art-briles-apology-tour-is-awful-1786475903 .
 

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So, I'm was reading an article about the end of Baylor's season a year ago and it's really, really interesting.

The gist of the article is that Baylor found itself without a true quarterback at the end of last season. While the local and national media were writing a collective eulogy for Baylor's season, Briles got to work. Taking some of the principles already built in to the team's running game, Briles turned his fun and gun squad and turned them into a lethal single-wing running machine. Against Texas and then a bowl game against North Carolina, Baylor racked up 1045 yards. That's not a typo: 520 yards a game. Yikes.

The lesson here? Well, it's not necessarily that Briles can/should/would be the next option if Stoops is shown the door; Briles is over 60 years old, and the stigma attached to his name would make him a hot potato for all but the most desperate AD's. Nor is the lesson that UK should hurry up and adopt the single-wing.

The lesson is much more elemental: keep and open mind and don't be afraid to take risks!

Briles took a look at his roster and decided to build an offense around the talent he had, not the talent he wanted. By doing this, he avoided the trap that catches so many coaches: trying to "make" his talent fit his scheme. I wonder if Kentucky's coaches have the humility do the same? Stoops attachment to the 3-4 (when he doesn't have adequate 3-4 personnel) smacks of the kind of arrogance that Briles avoided. Gran seems to "get" that his scheme must change now that Barker has gone down, but is he ready to make radical change to try to catch the big boys off guard?

We may well beat Vandy / Mizzou / Austin Peay / Miss St. running a traditional offense and Stoops' hybrid 3-4, but we most likely don't stand much of a chance against Georgia / Tenn / UofL. In one (or all) of those games, what would be the harm in doing something truly radical? What if Stoops pulled out the 46 defense or a 4-2-5 against Louisville? What if Gran shocked UT by suddenly adopting GaTech's flexbone offense (seriously, Boom and Kemp as the razor and Snell as the hammer!)? It might not work; hell, it most likely won't work, but at least your putting it all on the line to win. Do our coaches have that type or courage, or will they go down playing "my scheme"?

Blue, excellent post! I would like to see our Coaches think "Outside the box," but I'm afraid Coach Stoops and Gran are just plain vanilla.
There is an old saying, "Be not the first to try the new, nor the last to leave the old." In this case, it would be great. With the running backs we have, and the QB, I don't know why they don't run some options, at least to spread the defense out, so they couldn't blitz so much.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

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keep and open mind and don't be afraid to take risks! This sentence does not exists with UK football. They are always so far behind on making changes and thinking outside the box.
 

merrimanm

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If you are hinting that Mark Stoops should do this or would ever even consider doing this... you need to listen to his press conference today when he pretty much said that you've got to do what you believe in and continue to do it come hell or high water so I think you can cross out that's something that he would ever consider doing and that is basically why he is working on his third OC in 4 years.
Do people really think the Brown left because of Stoops? I keep seeing the reference of 3rd OC is 4 years. Brown left for a head coaching job, not because of Stoops. Dawson left because it was obvious that he was a bad hire and Stoops made a decision to eliminate the issue.

Also, he was talking about your program in terms of how you practice, how you watch film and things like that, not changing your offense. The offense now is vastly doffered from even the USM game since Barker is not the QB. So they have done just what the OP has said they need to do. So not sure they need to learn anything.
 

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Blue, excellent post! I would like to see our Coaches think "Outside the box," but I'm afraid Coach Stoops and Gran are just plain vanilla.
There is an old saying, "Be not the first to try the new, nor the last to leave the old." In this case, it would be great. With the running backs we have, and the QB, I don't know why they don't run some options, at least to spread the defense out, so they couldn't blitz so much.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
Another old saying "you would ***** if they hung you with a gold rope."
 

merrimanm

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Blue, excellent post! I would like to see our Coaches think "Outside the box," but I'm afraid Coach Stoops and Gran are just plain vanilla.
There is an old saying, "Be not the first to try the new, nor the last to leave the old." In this case, it would be great. With the running backs we have, and the QB, I don't know why they don't run some options, at least to spread the defense out, so they couldn't blitz so much.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
Ummmm..They are running the offense with RPOs. That is the Run/Pass option. They are already doing what you are calling for.