KSR article on "Toxic" comments from Stoops

[FanbaseSucks]

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/football-2/about-the-toxic-comments-from-mark-stoops/

Nick Roush wrote a must read, excellent piece on Mark Stoops and the fanbase over on KSR.
Honestly couldn't agree more.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

I read the article......It's about RESULTS.

I've met Coach Stoops in person when I was on a vacation in Florida. I like the guy. He is genuinely nice and I think he's a great defensive coach.

The problem: losing to WKU, losing to Southern Miss., barely beating EKU, etc.

UK fans are only asking for 6 wins and a bowl by now....Is that unreasonable? I don't think so....

I like our trajectory the last 3 games, but this team came out and laid an egg to start the season.

I want Coach Stoops to succeed. I really don't want to start over with another coach.

But how can I accept losses to Southern Miss. at this point? How? I am sorry, but that is just not getting it done.

It doesn't help that City College down the road is beating us. That is inexcusable.

 

[jauk11]

About time, and special thanks to Judy Griffin. I have long maintained that all the negativity on here will only accomplish one thing, hurt recruiting, and it is stupid to think parents don't notice it.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I see what he is saying. The two loudest entities of a fan base are the extremes. The 5% who are the doomsday crowd and the 5% who are the sunshine pumpers. Most people are in the middle and don't make nearly as much noise. Here's the thing though, to a program the doomsday crowd are the only ones who can hurt. The only negative that the sunshine crew has is that they annoy the doomsday crowd and make even more vocal.

And there's a difference in how you present your attitude to the world around you. Those around Griffin and his mom should shut the *blank* up. You can view the program as a failure and show ways of displeasure by not trashing players, or generally being mean, rude, nasty, etc.

 

[Kampus Korner_rivals164031]

Nick Roush needs to get over himself. He can praise "Caesar" all he wants but if thinks his epistle will persuade long suffering UK fans to change they way they feel about Stoops lack of progress on the field he is living in a fantasy world. Criticism comes with the $3.5 million Stoops gets paid each each year. Fan criticism comes with every coaching position from the Pee Wee league, middle school, high school, college and the pros. To be sure, the unfounded rumors about Stoops and personal insults towards players cross the line of acceptability. and should not take place. However, such misguided juvenile expressions come from a minority of UK fans and do not define the majority of UK fans who have suffered mediocre to pathetic football for nearly six decades.

UK fans have every right to question Stoops decision making and lack of progress just like every other fan of every other program in the United States. It is in the nature of being a fan. UK is not any different from every other school when it comes to fan frustration with perennially losing football. Stoops and his assistants are being paid more money than any coaching staff in the history of the University of Kentucky. UK has spent more money on upgrading its football facilities ($110 million), than at any time since Commonwealth Stadium was built in 1973, 43 years ago.

Naturally, with this radical increase in investment dollars comes an increase in expectations that our football program will improve. Thus far it hasn't. Deplorable losses to Vandy and Louisville last year as well barely beating EKU on our home field, losing to Southern Mississippi this year coupled with the 3 previous seasons of losing football have caused many UK fans to question whether Stoops can do the job. Yet despite these failures Roush and others expect UK fans to mute their growing discontent after having to pay ever increasing prices for tickets and parking passes? Get over yourself.

The fan environment surrounding UK football is no more "toxic" than at any other school which has had suffer the ignominy being one of the perpetual bottom feeders of their conference. Stoops may be a super nice guy and trying his best but he is not being paid for these qualities alone; he is being paid to produce results and thus far he has failed. As a result, the criticism exists. He should expect it. He should also stop whining about it.

 

[megablue]

I see what he is saying. The two loudest entities of a fan base are the extremes. The 5% who are the doomsday crowd and the 5% who are the sunshine pumpers. Most people are in the middle and don't make nearly as much noise. Here's the thing though, to a program the doomsday crowd are the only ones who can hurt. The only negative that the sunshine crew has is that they annoy the doomsday crowd and make even more vocal.

And there's a difference in how you present your attitude to the world around you. Those around Griffin and his mom should shut the *blank* up. You can view the program as a failure and show ways of displeasure by not trashing players, or generally being mean, rude, nasty, etc.

For what it's worth, it's probably the people in "the middle" who are making "noise" by failing to buy and renew tickets. To me, that seems more negative than comments by the 5% doomsday folks. Most people are just tired of preseason hype by the coaches and media about the team and are now in "show me" mode. Stoops and troops have to perform and take advantage of the weakest SEC East that I can ever remember.

 

[optimus-blue]

If the local media spent this kind of engery getting after the administration rather than the fans you would see real results

 

[reflaine]

I think it is funny we are 3-1 over our last four games, but the crowd is more vocal now than when we were 0-2

 

[Monroe Claxton]

More drivel from KSR

 

[Kats23]

Almost stopped at the first grammatical error. Facepalmed on the 2nd. He needs to proofread but I digress. Overall point in the article makes sense and I even agreed with Stoops in the fact people should not attack the players but fans are fans. When you've been a longtime suffering fan, when it starts to go south so will the fan base. If Stoops continues to win, the attitude will change. You wouldn't even be talking about this if the team had just beaten Southern Miss.

I think most are still not convinced. There was a little bit of smoke and mirrors to beating both USCjr and Vandy. UK got some bounces in both those games that helped them win. Right now, the season can one or two ways. Beat Miss St and Mizzou and you're bowling, or don't and another 4-5 win season is in the book. That's going to leave a bad taste in the fans' mouth in year 4. I would tell Stoops use the negativity as motivation and quit yapping about it to the media. He's getting paid a lot of money and with that money comes this kind of stuff.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

I have mixed opinions on this.

On one hand, there's no doubt that the atmosphere is negative at this point. There is little to no "buzz" in our fanbase. It's not because we don't care, it's that we are frustrated with where we "could be" had we A) beaten Southern Miss, B) taken advantage of a "down Florida", or C) Hired Bobby Petrino (or whichever other candidate of choice). There is NO DOUBT that this hurts recruiting. So, in that sense, UK fans are shooting ourselves in the collective foot.

On the other hand, this kid's mom is a bit of a johnny-come-lately. She has no idea the years of suffering that the LSUKFBF has endured. To be blunt, the Mark Stoops tenure has been a disappointment so far. We have not seen any results, it's year 4, and we watch a bunch of teams around us win (and in some cases, win big). Many of us pay a lot of money for tickets, donations, parking passes, etc etc. We want to win.

Unfortunately, it's a vicious cycle. If we get mad and vent and stop showing up, it hurts recruiting. If we don't get mad and keep showing up to fill the stadium without demanding results, then we will never get a winner.

 

[JW PRPcoach]

I think it is funny we are 3-1 over our last four games, but the crowd is more vocal now than when we were 0-2

This is actually a good thing. At 0-2, a lot of people had jumped ship. Morale within the program was down and a lot of my football "friends" were for the most part done with watching the team and supporting this program.

Then we did a few good things vs NMSU - then we beat USC, then we played hard at Bama - and slowly, each week, a few more people swam back to the boat.

Vocal is good, debate is good, constructive criticism is good, holding AD's and coaches accountable for their actions, words, and results is good. Bashing and name calling of players just to vent is not, especially personal attacks on social media - and that is the toxicity that folks are referring to

 

[RUPPsRevenge1]

I'm pretty sure Steve Kragthorpe tried this whole spill in his waning days as well.

 

[tntuk]

I see what he is saying. The two loudest entities of a fan base are the extremes. The 5% who are the doomsday crowd and the 5% who are the sunshine pumpers. Most people are in the middle and don't make nearly as much noise. Here's the thing though, to a program the doomsday crowd are the only ones who can hurt. The only negative that the sunshine crew has is that they annoy the doomsday crowd and make even more vocal.

And there's a difference in how you present your attitude to the world around you. Those around Griffin and his mom should shut the *blank* up. You can view the program as a failure and show ways of displeasure by not trashing players, or generally being mean, rude, nasty, etc.

You think Ms Griffin was angry at the "sunshine pumpers"??

Lol!!

 

[tntuk]

I have mixed opinions on this.

On one hand, there's no doubt that the atmosphere is negative at this point. There is little to no "buzz" in our fanbase. It's not because we don't care, it's that we are frustrated with where we "could be" had we A) beaten Southern Miss, B) taken advantage of a "down Florida", or C) Hired Bobby Petrino (or whichever other candidate of choice). There is NO DOUBT that this hurts recruiting. So, in that sense, UK fans are shooting ourselves in the collective foot.

On the other hand, this kid's mom is a bit of a johnny-come-lately. She has no idea the years of suffering that the LSUKFBF has endured. To be blunt, the Mark Stoops tenure has been a disappointment so far. We have not seen any results, it's year 4, and we watch a bunch of teams around us win (and in some cases, win big). Many of us pay a lot of money for tickets, donations, parking passes, etc etc. We want to win.

Unfortunately, it's a vicious cycle. If we get mad and vent and stop showing up, it hurts recruiting. If we don't get mad and keep showing up to fill the stadium without demanding results, then we will never get a winner.

We are 1 game off where everyone thought we'd be at this point. 4-2 vs 3-3. Are fans really that mad over where we "could be" - 4-2" vs where we are? If we were 0-6 or 1-5, then I'd understand.

The team is actually showing improvement as opposed to regressing like we have seen the last 2 years. We have a great shot to win 2 of 3 against MissSt, Mizzou, and UGA - and the Austin Peay for a Bowl berth.

Our wins don't get points for being pretty, but who cares??

 

[BlueRunner11]

They should do a "Mean Tweets" UK version. But seriously, why any player would give twitter comments from fans any credibility whatsoever is beyond me. Lots of crazies out there and that's not unique to just UK. It's part of being a big time program with a huge fan base.

I have no problem with Stoops taking on an "us against the world" mindset to motivate the team but you have to keep that in the locker room.

Blaming the fans, culture, negativity for not producing on the field is usually a last gasp for air from a coach drowning in his own lack of success.

 

[Beatle Bum]

The families of the players were extremely frustrated after the first two games, for various reasons, but in part due to the bashing by some vocal fans. When you read Judy Griffin's tweet and if you are a UK fan, you want that crap to stop and you want to apologize on behalf of the BBN, even for the trolls pretending to be fans. Because BBN is so incredibly large, there will be a greater number of a$$wipes and more jealous trolls. The rest of us need to be supportive, even when disappointed.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Nick Rousch talks about fans being negative after a win, but doesn't have a problem with a parent of a prized recruit posting negativity on twitter after a win.

always a good idea to talk ish to the people that fund the free ride your kid is getting. Mrs. Griffin, you and your son should stay off social media. I bet you didn't have a bad word to say when people were pumping sunshine when your son committed and putting expectations on him to be a program changer.

sounds like KSR is back to kissing butt

These are the crybaby victim posts that we always get when a recruit or a parent speaks the truth about ugly fans. If you justify the poor behavior and think you earned the right because you pay for a ticket, go away to a place where it is all about you. BBN has has never and will never be all about you. Fans who dump on players and their families are trash. Keep your stinking money, if that is you. And stop justifying the idiots.

 

[Cats78]

Nick Roush is a goober. Maybe he can grace us with yet another, strange, KSR post about DeSales football (low level high school football), which no one but him cares about.

 

[C.W.1]

Blogs like that just perpetuate and prolong the alleged "toxic" environment story line. Stoops should not have ever addressed it, especially after a win. He changed the story from a second SEC win to this "toxic" situation story. Winning takes care of most everything. His bringing it up just makes it tougher for them to recruit. Move on and just win.

 

[kb22stang]

UK fans are only asking for 6 wins and a bowl by now....Is that unreasonable? I don't think so....

False, if that was the case then folks would give him more time considering in his second and third seasons he won 5 games while in a total rebuild.

I read the article......It's about RESULTS.It doesn't help that City College down the road is beating us. That is inexcusable.

Judge yourself by other peoples successes and you'll always be unhappy. Who cares what UofL is doing, we know they're ahead of us, just as they were when Stoops got here. UK needs to worry about itself, not other programs.

 

[Tannerdad]

So what is the solution? Nobody seems to come up with one. All we have is fans bitching about fans. I guess KSR needs clicks and embellishes on a topic we have beaten to death.

You are not going to sway the "toxic" (Hate that term) fans from their stance most likely. And whether anyone wants to admit it, is a small minority. Out of the 100s of thousands of UK football fans, how many do you think tweet nastygrams to players? 50? 100? How many drunk idiots in the stands of 55,000 are yelling crap to the players? 50? 100? 200? How many internet posters on here and elsewhere trash players(not critique...trash)? 50? 100? More?

Minority. Small minority.

You have different groups. The pumpers that will not accept anything resembling criticism of this program. The realists that are desperate for a good program but understand and critique when they see bad football and want it to change. The ones that have pretty much given up on UK football and keep to themselves. And the "toxic" fan that doesn't even care all that much but just wants to make noise.

My solutions:

1. Win the games you are supposed to win. Reduce the ammo.
2. Players parents need to ignore social media.
3. Act like Calipari. Ignore the haters. And when you cannot, take the subtle jab to them.

Basically, you cannot stop this. You learn to adjust (something our coaches have not been all that good at until recently) and learn to work around. Constantly talking about something you cannot change only drags everyone into it. Eventually, the toxin spreads for the wrong reasons. Just win. Most of the time, everything else takes care of itself.

 

[Shavers48]

Stoops needs to talk to Eli and Barney about creating some safe spaces for him. mods, can you please implement trigger warnings too? thanks.
there, happy now pumpers???

 

[shutzhund]

Nick Roush needs to get over himself. He can praise "Caesar" all he wants but if thinks his epistle will persuade long suffering UK fans to change they way they feel about Stoops lack of progress on the field he is living in a fantasy world. Criticism comes with the $3.5 million Stoops gets paid each each year. Fan criticism comes with every coaching position from the Pee Wee league, middle school, high school, college and the pros. To be sure, the unfounded rumors about Stoops and personal insults towards players cross the line of acceptability. and should not take place. However, such misguided juvenile expressions come from a minority of UK fans and do not define the majority of UK fans who have suffered mediocre to pathetic football for nearly six decades.

UK fans have every right to question Stoops decision making and lack of progress just like every other fan of every other program in the United States. It is in the nature of being a fan. UK is not any different from every other school when it comes to fan frustration with perennially losing football. Stoops and his assistants are being paid more money than any coaching staff in the history of the University of Kentucky. UK has spent more money on upgrading its football facilities ($110 million), than at any time since Commonwealth Stadium was built in 1973, 43 years ago.

Naturally, with this radical increase in investment dollars comes an increase in expectations that our football program will improve. Thus far it hasn't. Deplorable losses to Vandy and Louisville last year as well barely beating EKU on our home field, losing to Southern Mississippi this year coupled with the 3 previous seasons of losing football have caused many UK fans to question whether Stoops can do the job. Yet despite these failures Roush and others expect UK fans to mute their growing discontent after having to pay ever increasing prices for tickets and parking passes? Get over yourself.

The fan environment surrounding UK football is no more "toxic" than at any other school which has had suffer the ignominy being one of the perpetual bottom feeders of their conference. Stoops may be a super nice guy and trying his best but he is not being paid for these qualities alone; he is being paid to produce results and thus far he has failed. As a result, the criticism exists. He should expect it. He should also stop whining about it.

BS!! Questioning whether Stoops is the coach we need is not about spreading/continuing vicious rumors that would harm his wife and children. The decades loyal UK fans are not represented by this board even remotely. The anonymous people, who have never been fans and are those you find skulking in every background looking to spread hatred, have taken over the tone of this board.

While defending these people you throw out that Stoops "should also stop whining". A demeaning comment you couldn't keep yourself from using while characterizing yourself as being a member of the "long suffering UK fans". What would you know about "crossing the line". It's so blurred, in your own mind, you don't know you're are over it.

Discuss football and leave and leave your resentment of salary, ticket prices and parking passes out of the discussion. The more rabid complainers probably don't even go to the games.

 

[3kidsandme]

This team is battling there *** off and getting better. We have an identity and we still cant support them. This team could still have a special season and most of our fans will still be miserable and not enjoy it.

 

[Beatle Bum]

So what is the solution? Nobody seems to come up with one. All we have is fans bitching about fans. I guess KSR needs clicks and embellishes on a topic we have beaten to death.

You are not going to sway the "toxic" (Hate that term) fans from their stance most likely. And whether anyone wants to admit it, is a small minority. Out of the 100s of thousands of UK football fans, how many do you think tweet nastygrams to players? 50? 100? How many drunk idiots in the stands of 55,000 are yelling crap to the players? 50? 100? 200? How many internet posters on here and elsewhere trash players(not critique...trash)? 50? 100? More?

Minority. Small minority.

You have different groups. The pumpers that will not accept anything resembling criticism of this program. The realists that are desperate for a good program but understand and critique when they see bad football and want it to change. The ones that have pretty much given up on UK football and keep to themselves. And the "toxic" fan that doesn't even care all that much but just wants to make noise.

My solutions:

1. Win the games you are supposed to win. Reduce the ammo.
2. Players parents need to ignore social media.
3. Act like Calipari. Ignore the haters. And when you cannot, take the subtle jab to them.

Basically, you cannot stop this. You learn to adjust (something our coaches have not been all that good at until recently) and learn to work around. Constantly talking about something you cannot change only drags everyone into it. Eventually, the toxin spreads for the wrong reasons. Just win. Most of the time, everything else takes care of itself.

My solution: support the players, cheer them in good times and in bad, be a force in the stadium and for recruiting, and when the jerks open their mouths, yell louder in support of the players that are working hard to give us all what we say we want. And, when something good happens, be happy and stop acting like the other shoe is about to drop. When we see improvement, cheer.

Stop with the tired narratives. Some of the crap we have heard is proven false, and new crap is created for the perpetually victimized. We see player development in incredible ways on defense. So, the "this staff cannot develop" motto perpetuated by trolls and idiots is replaced with some other negative.

UL fans and coaches are smiling at the truth of the comments Stoops' made. They are patting themselves on the back, and some of the BBN helped them with their fun.

 

[Beatle Bum]

BS!! Questioning whether Stoops is the coach we need is not about spreading/continuing vicious rumors that would harm his wife and children. The decades loyal UK fans are not represented by this board even remotely. The anonymous people, who have never been fans and are those you find skulking in every background looking to spread hatred, have taken over the tone of this board.

While defending these people you throw out that Stoops "should also stop whining". A demeaning comment you couldn't keep yourself from using while characterizing yourself as being a member of the "long suffering UK fans". What would you know about "crossing the line". It's so blurred, in your own mind, you don't know you're are over it.

Discuss football and leave and leave your resentment of salary, ticket prices and parking passes out of the discussion. The more rabid complainers probably don't even go to the games.

Making "fire the coach" posts during after the first few games is Troll Dung. It just is. For every poster who focuses on firing Stoops and getting a new coach, you have contributed to the problem. Thanks.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Stoops needs to talk to Eli and Barney about creating some safe spaces for him. mods, can you please implement trigger warnings too? thanks.
there, happy now pumpers???

I won't be happy until the daisy pushers and the perpetually victimized are happy.

 

[TankedCat]

These are the crybaby victim posts that we always get when a recruit or a parent speaks the truth about ugly fans. If you justify the poor behavior and think you earned the right because you pay for a ticket, go away to a place where it is all about you. BBN has has never and will never be all about you. Fans who dump on players and their families are trash. Keep your stinking money, if that is you. And stop justifying the idiots.

its not about justifying, its about living in a glass house and throwing rocks. You can't control social media and if in this day and age you think its all hugs and kisses about your son when you put yourself out there to millions, then you don't have the resolve to be out there slinging mud.

So dial the piousness back down. Save it for someone who actually cares about how great you are as a person. I'm not him.

 

[Kampus Korner_rivals164031]

BS!! Questioning whether Stoops is the coach we need is not about spreading/continuing vicious rumors that would harm his wife and children. The decades loyal UK fans are not represented by this board even remotely. The anonymous people, who have never been fans and are those you find skulking in every background looking to spread hatred, have taken over the tone of this board.

While defending these people you throw out that Stoops "should also stop whining". A demeaning comment you couldn't keep yourself from using while characterizing yourself as being a member of the "long suffering UK fans". What would you know about "crossing the line". It's so blurred, in your own mind, you don't know you're are over it.

Discuss football and leave and leave your resentment of salary, ticket prices and parking passes out of the discussion. The more rabid complainers probably don't even go to the games.

Shutz, in your typical knee jerk response to any post with which you disagree, you make sweeping generalizations without a scintilla of factual support. First, as expressly stated in my post, spreading rumors or personally attacking players is unacceptable and in, my opinion, is only done by a minority of UK fans, a point you either didn't read or chose to ignore in your zeal to pump sunshine for your brother Stoops. Secondly, your broad unsupported declaration that,"the decades loyal UK fans are not represented by this board even remotely." is likewise typical of how you epically fail to support your positions.

Thirdly, your inept attempt to understand or "know" what is "blurred" in my mind is once again a desperate attempt to feebly post a rebuttal without the citation to facts and as result, you default to making personal attacks which is another inherent weakness in your posts. Finally, your laughable mandate that I refrain from expressing myself so that it doesn't disagree with your own self righteous and myopic view of what constitutes being a "true blue fan" is consistent with your continued failure to make a persuasive argument.

As a footnote, I have been a season ticket holder in football since 1973 and a K fund (formerly Blue/White fund) member for the last 22 years. I have more than sufficient standing to offer comments, criticisms or simply B.S.)

 

[UKCatNnc]

This team is battling there *** off and getting better. We have an identity and we still cant support them. This team could still have a special season and most of our fans will still be miserable and not enjoy it.

"...and most of our fans will still be miserable and not enjoy it". I think not. Most of us Kentucky fans would enjoy a special season. Go Cats!!

 

[allabouttheUK]

Very well written article that explains in detail the situation and the comments that he made. Sadly the same portion of the fan base that act like idiots can read the article and still not get IT. If you think for a second that recruits and their families don't pay attention and see and hear things then you are a complete fool.

 

[Chuckinden]

That's the way is everywhere. Some fans go "overboard" with their negativity, just like some fans go "overboard" with their "sunshine". It's really a small minority when you think about it.

Every UK football fan wants us to do better. Some just have a severe way of showing it.

 

[CB3UK]

Just shut up and win. Attacking the fans will never end well, ever.

 

[JC CATS]

Yes UK fans are the problem. It has nothing to do with the product on the field. UK fans cause UK sports to be awful. Just look at the basketball program, it has been like 4 years since the last National Championship. Stupid fans!

I believe jmo, that fans have scaled back on the criticism. The criticism was deserved after the first 2 weeks. Has UK turned the corner or just been playing awful competition? Wait and see is all we can do. If Stoops doesn't win 6 this season, he will be criticized, and news alert, that is not unique to UK. Reasonable fans are not asking for 10-2 and the SEC East, altho Pat Towles did kind of refer to it a couple years back. Just improve get better, be mediocre and UK will build you a statue. Be awful and the fanbase will complain and criticize, that's the nature of the beast

 

[ScrewDuke1]

The fan base needs to stop ripping each other. I don't know if I've ever seen the fan base this divided before. Almost every other thread fans are ripping fans. Seriously guys stop.

 

[brianpoe]

I'm pretty sure Steve Kragthorpe tried this whole spill in his waning days as well.

You should know...

 

[Mr Schwump]

I'm pretty sure Steve Kragthorpe tried this whole spill in his waning days as well.

Just what did Kragthorpe "spill?" Water? Beer? Coffee? Word you may want is "spiel." Look it up.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

Nick Roush needs to get over himself. He can praise "Caesar" all he wants but if thinks his epistle will persuade long suffering UK fans to change they way they feel about Stoops lack of progress on the field he is living in a fantasy world. Criticism comes with the $3.5 million Stoops gets paid each each year. Fan criticism comes with every coaching position from the Pee Wee league, middle school, high school, college and the pros. To be sure, the unfounded rumors about Stoops and personal insults towards players cross the line of acceptability. and should not take place. However, such misguided juvenile expressions come from a minority of UK fans and do not define the majority of UK fans who have suffered mediocre to pathetic football for nearly six decades.

UK fans have every right to question Stoops decision making and lack of progress just like every other fan of every other program in the United States. It is in the nature of being a fan. UK is not any different from every other school when it comes to fan frustration with perennially losing football. Stoops and his assistants are being paid more money than any coaching staff in the history of the University of Kentucky. UK has spent more money on upgrading its football facilities ($110 million), than at any time since Commonwealth Stadium was built in 1973, 43 years ago.

Naturally, with this radical increase in investment dollars comes an increase in expectations that our football program will improve. Thus far it hasn't. Deplorable losses to Vandy and Louisville last year as well barely beating EKU on our home field, losing to Southern Mississippi this year coupled with the 3 previous seasons of losing football have caused many UK fans to question whether Stoops can do the job. Yet despite these failures Roush and others expect UK fans to mute their growing discontent after having to pay ever increasing prices for tickets and parking passes? Get over yourself.

The fan environment surrounding UK football is no more "toxic" than at any other school which has had suffer the ignominy being one of the perpetual bottom feeders of their conference. Stoops may be a super nice guy and trying his best but he is not being paid for these qualities alone; he is being paid to produce results and thus far he has failed. As a result, the criticism exists. He should expect it. He should also stop whining about it.

Since I'm not allowed to like your post twice, I decided to give it a bump....Well said, Kampus Korner!

 

[UKCatNnc]

That's the way is everywhere. Some fans go "overboard" with their negativity, just like some fans go "overboard" with their "sunshine". It's really a small minority when you think about it.

Every UK football fan wants us to do better. Some just have a severe way of showing it.

And some posters are not Kentucky fans. Go Cats!!