Lincoln Riley likes to go under center? interesting concept...

TrojanFireHorse12

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4 play guru but no goal line plays...

What is this "going under center" of which you speak?
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I mean he doesn't really run the air raid to be honest.
This, exactly! How many times did we have to argue against Harrell's ridiculous offense w/ those claiming OK had the same offense? It was never the same!

It's like saying a Pontiac Fiero and Ferrari are both "sports cars". Well, technically I guess, but any fool recognizes the difference.

Harrel's offense boasted of certain novelty "features", like:

  1. Wide Line Splits
  2. Ridiculously small playbook
  3. QB would make quicker reads
  4. RB would have wider gaps to run through
  5. TE's were featured

None of those things happened. It was all a gimmick. You can't hide behind a scheme, unless you're Chip Kelly before the tempo rules were enacted. You have to actually play fundamentally sound FB and develop your players (who knew).
 
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This, exactly! How many times did we have to argue against Harrell's ridiculous offense w/ those claiming OK had the same offense? It was never the same!

It's like saying a Pontiac Fiero and Ferrari are both "sports cars". Well, technically I guess, but any fool recognizes the difference.

Harrel's offense was heralded w/ certain novelty aspects as "features", like:

  1. Wide Line Splits
  2. Ridiculously small playbook
  3. QB would make quicker reads
  4. RB would have wider gaps to run through

None of those things happened. It was all a gimmick. You can't hide behind a scheme, unless you're Chip Kelly before the temp rules were enacted. You have to actually play fundamentally sound FB and develop your players (who knew).
Period, and it's not just about the scheme. It's about the fundamentals, and Riley's team plays sound fundamentals. His offense isn't one dimensional; his wide receivers are schemed to get open, and were developed to a high technical level to execute those plays. Lincoln Riley and Graham Harrell's are only comparable in the fact that they both worked or played under Mike Leach.

But it's clear that coaches like Riley and Kingsbury were his true successors - that have evolved their offensive play calling ability beyond Leach's foundation - Harrell is just a pretender. That never evolved, only copied from Leach's playbook without learning how it truly functioned beyond the buzzwords and it's basic concepts.
 
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Period, and it's not just about the scheme. It's about the fundamentals, and Riley's team plays sound fundamentals. His offense isn't one dimensional; his wide receivers are schemed to get open, and were developed to a high technical level to execute those plays. Lincoln Riley and Graham Harrell's are only comparable in the fact that they both worked or played under Mike Leach.

But it's clear that coaches like Riley and Kingsbury were his true successors - that have evolved their offensive play calling ability beyond Leach's foundation - Harrell is just a pretender. That never evolved, only copied from Leach's playbook without learning how it truly functioned beyond the buzzwords and it's basic concepts.
Interesting take and I’m with ya. Leach is genius level, he’s not writing down simple plays just because. The logic and intelligence he has can’t just be copied.
 
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Interesting take and I’m with ya. Leach is genius level, he’s not writing down simple plays just because. The logic and intelligence he has can’t just be copied.
Facts, and that's what GH was tryin to do, trying be someone he'll never be because it's impossible to be Mike Leach. Or be on the same wavelength as him when it comes to running a pure air raid system. So, we got the poor imitation.
Ya, they got it totally wrong, it's the Harrell Raid that doesn't do that.
Something, that Mike leach would only say in jest - as he's a passing fanatic. But that's supplemented with the fact that he's at a different intellectual level then GH and knows when to give in.
 
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Behind the center and physical at the line of scrimmage..Yes we need to be more like those 👆days
 

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