My sources are saying Mizzou confirmed to be in SEC East
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...think it's dumb that one of the western most universities in the conference would be in the East division?<div>
</div><div>Just move Auburn to the East and make sure that Bama is their permanent West opponent. Or move Auburn & Bama to the East and move Vandy West. Mizzou in the East makes no sense.</div>
</div><div>Just move Auburn to the East and make sure that Bama is their permanent West opponent. Or move Auburn & Bama to the East and move Vandy West. Mizzou in the East makes no sense.</div>
which side Mizzou is in to be honest. The way I look at it is that this is going to be temporary anyway... The SEC will go to 16 eventually. Don't know if it'll be in 4 or more years, but it will happen. If we get 2 Eastern teams, then Mizzou will go to the West like they're supposed to.
i can't believe anyone would fault adding mizzou to the east (they are closer to kentucky than anyone except arkansas in the west). it maintains relatively good balance. keeps all cross-divisional rivalries in place and all intra-divisional rivalries in place. and what this says to me is that 2 more teams are coming relatively soon, most likely to the east, and it will be easy to just bump mizzou to the west at that point in time.
But when you look at the situation, it makes a whole lot more sense to put them in the East than the West.
1. Missouri is actually closer to the northern East schools than it is to most of the West schools.
2. It keeps the Bama-UT rivalry game. I don't care what anybody thinks of Bama or UT personally, that is a freaking huge rivalry and a southern tradition.
3. It keeps all schools in their traditional division.
4. It makes scheduling a snap. Just drop one opponent from the opposite division and pick up A&M or Mizzou (also, USC & Ark drop each other and pick up both A&M & Mizzou). That's it. You're done. Put them both in the West and you've got to make wholesale changes to future schedules that have already been set.
5. It keeps the competitive balance between the East and West.
1. Missouri is actually closer to the northern East schools than it is to most of the West schools.
2. It keeps the Bama-UT rivalry game. I don't care what anybody thinks of Bama or UT personally, that is a freaking huge rivalry and a southern tradition.
3. It keeps all schools in their traditional division.
4. It makes scheduling a snap. Just drop one opponent from the opposite division and pick up A&M or Mizzou (also, USC & Ark drop each other and pick up both A&M & Mizzou). That's it. You're done. Put them both in the West and you've got to make wholesale changes to future schedules that have already been set.
5. It keeps the competitive balance between the East and West.
There is no grand plan for 4 16-team conferences. There just isn't. Each conference is looking out for one thing and one thing only. And that's what's best for that conference. There's really nobody else the SEC can add that would bring in enough incremental revenue to justify adding, so we're going to be at 14 for a while (I'd say at least a decade if not longer). We're about to see the conference realignments stabilize with the SEC & ACC at 14, the PAC-12 & Big 10 at 12, and the Big 12 at either 10 or 12 (I'm guessing 12). Then you'll see some form of the 32-team mega-conference the Big East is floating that will catch all the other semi-significant schools and the MAC/WAC/Sunbelt will be stuck in a kind of a hybrid I-A/I-AA situation. They'll technically be I-A, but for all intents and purposes they'll be even less relevent than they are now.
West East
Hogs 285 Vandy 446
OM476KY 469
MSU 574 UT 623
Bama 635 GA 751
AU 785 USC 889
LSU 786 FL 1035
A&M 787
That's an average distance of 618 miles for West teams and 702 forEastteams.
Move Auburn to the East and you get 590 miles average to West teams and 714 miles to East teams.
You swap Bama and Auburn for Vandy and you get 559 milesfor West teams, and 741 miles for East teams.
I know swapping Bama and Auburn for Vandy will never happen, but it at least makes sense to move Auburn East andput MO in theWest.
Hogs 285 Vandy 446
OM476KY 469
MSU 574 UT 623
Bama 635 GA 751
AU 785 USC 889
LSU 786 FL 1035
A&M 787
That's an average distance of 618 miles for West teams and 702 forEastteams.
Move Auburn to the East and you get 590 miles average to West teams and 714 miles to East teams.
You swap Bama and Auburn for Vandy and you get 559 milesfor West teams, and 741 miles for East teams.
I know swapping Bama and Auburn for Vandy will never happen, but it at least makes sense to move Auburn East andput MO in theWest.
especially since I agree with pretty much everything you're saying. I agree in that there's no timeline for conferences to go to 16, but with the way things are going, it really seems as if sometime down the road, it's going to happen eventually. The only way I can see the SEC going to 16 is if they take some teams out of the ACC and right now the SEC does not want to have the image of poaching from conferences. I just don't know if that image will change in the next few years.<div>
</div><div>That's probably one of the main things I find really interesting about all of this talk about realignment. There are a lot of moves that are happening that seem to be really easy to predict, but how all of the dominoes fall aren't nearly as easy. Hell, I don't even think the mega mediocre conference will last and what will eventually happen is that it will dissolve into a smaller conference of probably 14 or 16 with the best teams in that particular conference, but who knows.. it might actually last for a long time coming. I'm even surprised to see the Big XII is still surviving (despite the fact it's hanging on for dear life).</div><div>
</div><div>I'm just under the mindset that even if realignment happens to stop for next few years, there are too many conferences that are particularly unstable to stop realignment for good. As long as the Big XII and Big East are still surviving, it's hard for me to say it will be over. That's one of the main reasons I believe the SEC will go to 16. It's just hard to call when.</div>
</div><div>That's probably one of the main things I find really interesting about all of this talk about realignment. There are a lot of moves that are happening that seem to be really easy to predict, but how all of the dominoes fall aren't nearly as easy. Hell, I don't even think the mega mediocre conference will last and what will eventually happen is that it will dissolve into a smaller conference of probably 14 or 16 with the best teams in that particular conference, but who knows.. it might actually last for a long time coming. I'm even surprised to see the Big XII is still surviving (despite the fact it's hanging on for dear life).</div><div>
</div><div>I'm just under the mindset that even if realignment happens to stop for next few years, there are too many conferences that are particularly unstable to stop realignment for good. As long as the Big XII and Big East are still surviving, it's hard for me to say it will be over. That's one of the main reasons I believe the SEC will go to 16. It's just hard to call when.</div>