My vote Catholic drop I H S A

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Bring back prep bowl!Districts become smaller and easier to manage.Most of the Catholic programs won’t have to play against CPS in the District format,which they will be meaningless blowouts.They keep the rivalries intact.Then we have Best public vs private.This way we also end the debate over recruiting.Districts need to be winning percentage and helmet counts.
 

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Bring back prep bowl!Districts become smaller and easier to manage.Most of the Catholic programs won’t have to play against CPS in the District format,which they will be meaningless blowouts.They keep the rivalries intact.Then we have Best public vs private.This way we also end the debate over recruiting.Districts need to be winning percentage and helmet counts.
Do all the privates have to leave? Can they choose to stay? Does that depend on their football strength?
 
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This has been a tired topic that does frequently. If the private and zero boundary schools leave the IHSA, they do so for all sports not just football.

I get this district thing sucks and I hate it too, but to leave now understand it comes at the risk of all sports.
 
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This has been a tired topic that does frequently. If the private and zero boundary schools leave the IHSA, they do so for all sports not just football.

I get this district thing sucks and I hate it too, but to leave now understand it comes at the risk of all sports.

Is there a by-law that mandates that?
 
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Don't some schools play in one conference for one sport and another conference for others. I thought this was happening somewhat already. (Like boys and girls private school sports like basketball)
 
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Bring back prep bowl!Districts become smaller and easier to manage.Most of the Catholic programs won’t have to play against CPS in the District format,which they will be meaningless blowouts.They keep the rivalries intact.Then we have Best public vs private.This way we also end the debate over recruiting.Districts need to be winning percentage and helmet counts.

If you set up districts based on winning percentage you have a bunch of good teams not making playoffs because they are in the bottom half of a good district while a bunch of bad teams get in because they are in top half of a bad district. This will occasionally happen by accident anyway (strong and weak districts) but to do it intentionally is ridiculous. You are prioritizing having good games in the regular season over having the best teams in the playoffs when you do this which in turn gives you blowouts in the playoffs. You should have better games in the playoffs than the regular season and you are setting it up for the opposite to occur.
 
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If you set up districts based on winning percentage you have a bunch of good teams not making playoffs because they are in the bottom half of a good district while a bunch of bad teams get in because they are in top half of a bad district. This will occasionally happen by accident anyway (strong and weak districts) but to do it intentionally is ridiculous. You are prioritizing having good games in the regular season over having the best teams in the playoffs when you do this which in turn gives you blowouts in the playoffs. You should have better games in the playoffs than the regular season and you are setting it up for the opposite to occur.[/QUOTE
Watching main south play main east as parent wouldn’t even want to watch,if far worse than watching MS play Loyola game every week I will take 9 of those games any day as a player or coach!Me and my boys have always wanted to play the best!
 

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Is there a by-law that mandates that?

When you’re a member of an association either you are or you aren’t. You can’t selectively choose what sports you want to be in for that association and which you can’t. I’m sure a by law exists.
 
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ClownBaby

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This has been a tired topic that does frequently. If the private and zero boundary schools leave the IHSA, they do so for all sports not just football.

I get this district thing sucks and I hate it too, but to leave now understand it comes at the risk of all sports.

I’ve asked multiple times since districts were announce but not one person has answered this simple question, what benefits do all sports outside football get from leaving the IHSA?

There are a lot of kids that pay tutition and whose parents donate money who you would basically be turning your back on by leaving the IHSA.
 

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I’ve asked multiple times since districts were announce but not one person has answered this simple question, what benefits do all sports outside football get from leaving the IHSA?

There are a lot of kids that pay tutition and whose parents donate money who you would basically be turning your back on by leaving the IHSA.
You're right. I don't see the benefit for all sports.
 

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When you’re a member of an association either you are or you aren’t. You can’t selectively choose what sports you want to be in for that association and which you can’t. I’m sure a by law exists.

I am not sure that such a bylaw exists.
IMO, it should.
 
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When you’re a member of an association either you are or you aren’t. You can’t selectively choose what sports you want to be in for that association and which you can’t. I’m sure a by law exists.

Actually, there would be no penalty. Football would be classified as a non-school sport and there would be no limits on participation.

If you look at other sports/activities , there are many schools who choose not to participate in IHSA state series. (but admittedly, not in any of the high-profile ones).
 

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Actually, there would be no penalty. Football would be classified as a non-school sport and there would be no limits on participation.

If you look at other sports/activities , there are many schools who choose not to participate in IHSA state series. (but admittedly, not in any of the high-profile ones).
There are several CPS conferences that are outside of the IHSA tournament. The CPL conferences that are not eligible for consideration for the playoffs could do what ever they want short of having their own playoffs.
The CPL and CCL have a wavier to play the post season playoffs towards the Prep Bowl. Could those teams outside of the IHSA playoffs wave the school boundaries for players?
 

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Actually, there would be no penalty. Football would be classified as a non-school sport and there would be no limits on participation.

If you look at other sports/activities , there are many schools who choose not to participate in IHSA state series. (but admittedly, not in any of the high-profile ones).
So LCN is wrong, based on bylaws?
 
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So LCN is wrong, based on bylaws?

As long as school doesn’t participate in the state series, then there is no penalty for those players or school who participate in the same sport.

The only potential issue would be the IHSA may not allow their members to play nonconference games against them since they are not a member of a state athletic association.
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD

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As long as school doesn’t participate in the state series, then there is no penalty for those players or school who participate in the same sport.

The only potential issue would be the IHSA may not allow their members to play nonconference games against them since they are not a member of a state athletic association.
Don't Illinois schools play out of state schools. And in LA case out of state schools out of the country.
 

mc140

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I think most Catholic schools would stay behind and take their chances vs the public schools instead of going head on vs Loyola, MC, Naz, etc.
 
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Don't Illinois schools play out of state schools. And in LA case out of state schools out of the country.

The bylaws allow for games for teams in other state's athletic associations. Other games are at discretion of executive director. If the IHSA wants do, they could punish the "dropout schools" by limiting schools they could play.

Personally I'd love to see the top catholic teams start some intersectional play. Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller, Louisville Trinity, Cleveland St. Iggys, Erie Cathedral Prep, Philly St. Joes would all be great out of conference matchups