If these were the only 2 choices as the next head coach, which would you choose?
Neal Brown for me.
Neal Brown for me.
Neal Brown or Jeff Brohm?
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Neal brown...coaching attributes aside, Brohms loyalty lies with UofL.
I don't think UK could lose either way. I was leaning Brohm but Brown is having such a great season. Honestly I'm torn right now and will have to research it better to have a more educated opinion.
Having said that, when the time comes, I'm sure Barney will hire an unproven coordinator or a retread.
Having said that, when the time comes, I'm sure Barney will hire an unproven coordinator or a retread.
It's a false choice. Neither will ever be Kentucky's head coach. Brohm would not take the job, and Brown will not be offered the job. And until Stoops is actually gone, the job isn't open anyway.
Let's put it this way, anyone basing a coaching choice off of 1 or even 2 seasons is not thinking clearly. Even young coaches need to have some semblance of sustained success. Whether that be at the coordinator level or head coach.
But I still say Major Applewhite.
But I still say Major Applewhite.
Neal Brown.
Brohm would be looking climb the ranks with in a couple years.
Also wouldn't rule out the NFL with Brohm. Dude spent 6 years in the league, knows the game, has some contacts. The league is going to the offensive side and guys with backgrounds on that end are becoming more and more popular.
Brohm would be looking climb the ranks with in a couple years.
Also wouldn't rule out the NFL with Brohm. Dude spent 6 years in the league, knows the game, has some contacts. The league is going to the offensive side and guys with backgrounds on that end are becoming more and more popular.
What is your thinking on these 2 statements. I would think Brohm would be crazy not to take a P5 SEC job that he leaves as a multi=millionaire even if he is unsuccessful and why would we not offer the job to Brown? He is a local product and past player who has done well everywhere he has been as a coordinator or head coach.
It is highly unlikely that any athletics director would fire a head coach with 19 incumbent starters returning. It's easy for fans to talk about firing the coach, but fans also wanted Brooks fired. Unless the team collapses in October and November, Stoops will be back in 2017. He has to bite the bullet now and replace DJ Eliot. If we don't win in 2017, then that's all for Stoops at Kentucky. A year from now, the list of potential candidates will look much different than it looks now. Neal Brown has enjoyed early success at the level of the Sunbelt Conference. Some fans will say he beat Southern Miss, so they think he is a better coach than Stoops. Good for him. But anything can happen on a given week. Being an SEC head coach means, among other things, having the contacts and influence to put together an SEC staff, and being able to recruit a roster fill of SEC players. Struggling to put together an SEC staff is exactly what has bitten Stoops. Brown has no recruiting contacts in Ohio, Florida. On that score and others, Brown is not ready to be an SEC head coach. Brown is the guy who brought Schlarman, Mainord, Scott to Lexington. Brown is the guy who didn't recognize the need for a dedicated quarterback coach. I'm not saying Brown won't move up from Troy. A Big 12 job could be next. Someone will say coaching in the Big 12 is no different from the SEC, but that is silly based on known facts.
We dont need a coach yet...you guys are gonna feel goofy when we are 5-3 in next month
Of course Brohm wants a P5 job. But the Brohm family is 1 of the most anti-UK families in America. Why would a guy with Brohm's successful resume take a job at a struggling school his family has hated since before he was born? That's not likely to happen. Brohm will keep winning at WKU and pick his next opportunity carefully. Neal Brown has started off well at a Sunbelt school. I'm not saying Brown can't coach. He is a student of the game. Brown doesn't have the recruiting contacts or the coaching contacts to handle an SEC head coaching job. If you want a staff composed of guys like Schlarman, Mainord, Scott, and a roster full of prospects with few or no other SEC offers, that's the likely outcome if Brown gets the job. Brown appeals to some fans because he is familiar, and because he beat Southern Miss. That isn't nearly enough. At this point, Barnhart has to shoot higher.
I have had a good laugh at many of your posts. What makes you laugh has nothing to do with realities of Kentucky sports.
I hope your right, since that would mean we are winning. I think Coach Stoops will probably get another year to prove himself if he gets 5 wins. He will make changes on his staff and convince Barnhart that he has a chance to really do good things with all the returning recruits. Only 5 wins would mean he hasn't improved the W-L since year two, which should be grounds for letting him go.
I know, some of you are going to say we've made improvement. If that's what you think, then think about USM, Florida and Alabama.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
You do realize that Neil Brown was hired as OC BEFORE Mark Stoops was hired as head coach by Barnhardt? So if anything, he's probably Mitch's number 1 choice.
Rumors are Brohm would like to stay in state. I think he's definitely an option.
Geez guys it's a hypothetical question.
Both are really good options but I'd take Neal Brown the more I think about it.
He's a Kentucky guy. He's not gonna jump ship for a bigger job. He's got connections everywhere: Texas, Florida, Alabama and Georgia. Runs a wide open spread offense that we are built for. He's also shown he can put together one hell of a staff and gameplan (see the Clemson game).
I'd be ecstatic if we got Brown at some point.
Both are really good options but I'd take Neal Brown the more I think about it.
He's a Kentucky guy. He's not gonna jump ship for a bigger job. He's got connections everywhere: Texas, Florida, Alabama and Georgia. Runs a wide open spread offense that we are built for. He's also shown he can put together one hell of a staff and gameplan (see the Clemson game).
I'd be ecstatic if we got Brown at some point.
I honestly think that Brown could manage a program better than Stoops. It was a big loss when he decided to take the Troy head job over an OC job in the SEC. Makes you wonder if Brown was seeing some things that this thing just wasn't going to work.
How could you know that Brown would NEVER be offered the job? He may not be offered right now, but he absolutely could be down the road.
2 young HCs. Risks associated with both. I think Brohm dreams of UL, may not have a great connection with Jurich. Brown knows the task at UK. If he came, it would be to make UK good, not to create future opportunities. Brown had a tougher task at Troy, as Jeff was left a nice crew that knew his scheme. I would go with Brown, if he took the job.
The Brohm's WERE an anti UK family...
Football is a business for them now and Lexington is close to home!
Brohm would take the UK job without question and as long as UK gave him the support that he needed to succeed, he'd probably stay unless a REALLY great job came open...
Neal Brown would probably be another disastrous hire. Having a good season at Troy doesn't mean he's what uk needs. We don't need risks, we need assurance. How many times do we have to get burned.
We need a rock solid hire this go round. Les Miles would be a tremendous hire to lay a decent foundation.
We screw up again and that's three straight bad hires in a few decades. It would be hard to bounce back. We must hire a proven winner and head coach or we're asking for trouble.
No Neal Brown.
We need a rock solid hire this go round. Les Miles would be a tremendous hire to lay a decent foundation.
We screw up again and that's three straight bad hires in a few decades. It would be hard to bounce back. We must hire a proven winner and head coach or we're asking for trouble.
No Neal Brown.
Exactly. Business is business. Coaching is business. People are so clueless.
Les Miles would be a shell of his former self when he doesn't have the program prestige to sell or the state of Louisiana as a backyard to recruit. He was barely sustaining LSU, so pardon my skepticism on him building UK.
Yeah, maybe Texas will pay us to take him so we can use that money to lessen the burden of Stoops' buyout.
He's a guy that knows how to win in this conference. Neal Brown? Not even question of which one is I'd rather give a shot. One has a national title and major bowl appearances, the other has had a decent season at Troy.
Yeah, well, so did Bill Curry...
Part of Les' "knowledge" includes having the advantage of being the only major program in a state with major high school talent.