New Coach? Why
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They thought right now is at least for me. Is when you look at the roster, with talent especially on offense there's no reason why they shouldn't be more competitive in year 4 of a coaching tenure. Given they've played better the last 3 weeks but still not where they should be.
Art Briles is why...
Stoops has had 3+ years.. everything has improved except on field performance..
Would you like to ask how we improve on field performance?
Stoops has had 3+ years.. everything has improved except on field performance..
Would you like to ask how we improve on field performance?
Guys, just stop and support these guys. Mitch is doing the best he can. The multi million dollar ESPN and SEC deals are better suited for science labs. Let Louisville have both sports and take the state as the darling team! Who needs them! Who needs fans that want to win? It's so domineering an controlling.
Barnhart has great Vision and morals. Let's just enjoy the Nike uniforms and Chrome things. Support this team and coach. In 3 more years I'd bet money we get to see some kind of bowl. If not winning 5 games in the SEC is really exciting, even if 1 of the 5 is actually against an SEC team.
We got to share the same field as Alabama yesterday. We're making history in our own way.
Some of you that keep talking this winning nonsense are the worst. You have an agenda.
@merrimanm is this pretty close to what you want to hear?
Barnhart has great Vision and morals. Let's just enjoy the Nike uniforms and Chrome things. Support this team and coach. In 3 more years I'd bet money we get to see some kind of bowl. If not winning 5 games in the SEC is really exciting, even if 1 of the 5 is actually against an SEC team.
We got to share the same field as Alabama yesterday. We're making history in our own way.
Some of you that keep talking this winning nonsense are the worst. You have an agenda.
@merrimanm is this pretty close to what you want to hear?
Let's petition the NCAA so the Cats can become Bowl eligible at 3-9 give Stoops a lifetime contract, and give Barney raises, and lifetime contract. They are good people,and deserve it. If by chance they go 2-10 we will look the other way, maybe we just can all just be happy going to a Bowl every 5 years under the new plan. Just be thankful they even would sell you a ticket. You microwaves really expect to much, and are such a pain this time of year. Thank goodness for Basketball.
Hahahaha!!! So because I am not on the bash Stoops train, I am now some sort of everything is ok guy??
Read my posts. I have said many times that I am not sure that Stoops is the answer yet. But I don't know that he isn't either. I see past the coach is the problem excuse all the time.
He's right. Winning is overrated and so stressful. Let's just relax, enjoy the season, and let other schools deal with the pressure of winning. Can we at least get a participation trophy or something?
Participation trophy? Our fans are so demanding.
Especially the chrome things. All the kids are getting chrome things these days.
I am in the we are improving boat. I wanna see how the season plays out before i fire him. You cant fire him if he goes bowling.
So no one has a real answer? Everyone has sarcasm but no solid reasoning.
My thoughts, firing Stoops actually sets the program back and shows no commitment. He gets a minimum of one more year to get to the magical 6 wins. If he doesn't, then we look. However, I'm not sure any coach is going to give is what we want.
My thoughts, firing Stoops actually sets the program back and shows no commitment. He gets a minimum of one more year to get to the magical 6 wins. If he doesn't, then we look. However, I'm not sure any coach is going to give is what we want.
On the other hand, the coaches graveyard is running out of room. An allocation of funds may be needed for expansion.
Because Stoops isn't a good coach.....when was the last time you thought wow! That game was really well coached and they made great halftime adjustments?
Six wins in his fifth season is magical? No wonder we suck at football.
It would only set the program back if you make the wrong hire. Would you have been in favor of giving Joker more time after that 40-0 debacle to Vandy in front of 15,000 fans? Don't answer that....
As another poster whom I respect pointed out on another thread, Jurich fired Kragthorpe by end of year three, and UL seem to be doing OK at the moment.
I think just about everybody wanted Stoops to succeed when he was hired. If 14-27 is your definition of success, then I don't know what to tell you. Unfortunately the terms of his contract will almost guarantee him another year whether he deserves it or not.
Sets the program back to what exactly? Not making bowls? Getting embarrassed by CUSA schools? Having a D that is learning to line up properly? Having a Juco QB have more wins than the starter? Losing 30 in a row to UF? Do you honestly think another coach coming in couldn't maintain that type of amazing success?
And as far as showing no committment...that's how SEC FB schools operate. You win or you GTFO. I'd rather us start to at least act like we belong instead of this special needs SEC football program.
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Its amazing the excuses you see people post on here trying to rationalize mediocrity.
Ukalum1988: You are correct, UL did fire a coach after year three, lots of programs have. They just aren't Kentucky. For whatever reason, firing a coach has NEVER worked for us. Yet, that is always the answer that everyone gives.
BlueRunner11: Seriously? How can we complain about not competing in the SEC and then say we are just like every other program? 30 years in a row isn't a Stopps issue. So you are saying fire another coach then hire another coach and we may get the same results.
Thats where my questions comes from.
Rationalizing mediocrity is a conservative point of view. I would say the 1% of the total fan base who post on here reflect their thoughts (clear or fogged by beverages of choice) mandate their losing attitude toward the football program as more personal than reasonable which is prevalent across our living landscape.
I feel you give a coach a couple years and if they don't perform, you roll the dice again. Eventually, even Mitch may get lucky and land a decent coach. Other SEC schools operate the same and wouldn't put up with 4 years without a bowl from a coach so why do we?
Here's why, because the mentality is that no one wants to coach here and no one can win here and I believe that's BS to get fans, ticket holders, boosters, etc to accept mediocrity. It's not that Mitch doesn't want to win. He does. It's that Mitch doesn't HAVE to win and that's a problem.
To the post about joker we was on a downward trend. Four straight bowls to a losing bowl game at Pitt to not making one the next year then moving to 2-10.
With stoops we have kinda been on a upward trend. 2 to 5 to 5 (coulda been more with some Tennessee bounces). One year not moving in right direction is not a trend as talent varies from year to year and we are very young with key players. But multiple years in same path shows the direction of the program. I think the first three years and improvement from day one of the team, stoops deserves one more year to show if he is right for the job. And a compete roster of his players. Have said all along year five was year to judge and not going away from that. Now he don't produce next year I'm all for moving on. But next year could also be an eight win season and allow us another good step to build on while returning experience for the following year.
Stoops getting it turned around is what's best for the program. Not a flash and the Pan and getting hot one year. We need a football program built from the ground up (Brooks took lumps with a young Woodson, Woodyard group) and it payed off by weathering the storm. That is best if long term success. I think stoops would stay for a while if we become successfull
With stoops we have kinda been on a upward trend. 2 to 5 to 5 (coulda been more with some Tennessee bounces). One year not moving in right direction is not a trend as talent varies from year to year and we are very young with key players. But multiple years in same path shows the direction of the program. I think the first three years and improvement from day one of the team, stoops deserves one more year to show if he is right for the job. And a compete roster of his players. Have said all along year five was year to judge and not going away from that. Now he don't produce next year I'm all for moving on. But next year could also be an eight win season and allow us another good step to build on while returning experience for the following year.
Stoops getting it turned around is what's best for the program. Not a flash and the Pan and getting hot one year. We need a football program built from the ground up (Brooks took lumps with a young Woodson, Woodyard group) and it payed off by weathering the storm. That is best if long term success. I think stoops would stay for a while if we become successfull
This makes more sense. For some reason my question turned into a gripe session on mediocrity. I tailgate with 30 plus people every weekend and haven't missed but four home games in the last 18 years. Coaching change seens to always be the answer yet we haven't had any shirt term success with that. Everyone wanted Brooks fired if I recall correctly.
Keeping stoops to long could also set the program back as well, if he isn't the right coach for our program. I think that is a common trend from our programs past that needs to end.
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Who had too much time that I'm missing? I'm not sure our program is setup for a two year rotation of coaches. Curry?
Everyone's just frustrated and wants to win....like yesterday. FB has been handled poorly for years so the crock pots have been traded in for microwaves.
Why is Brooks listed as another UK coach that we complained about until we got him off the job? Brooks did a very solid job and basically at his advanced age (and lack of Mitch giving him facility upgrades) just retired. Brooks is nothing close to Curry, Joker or Stoops...who are all three same level of bad coaches.
Do you think Coach Stoops will rent those ugly multi-colored bowling shoes, or does he have his own?
I disagree with you. Two years? lol I know your being sarcastic but still. In year three, were you impressed by our team that barely beat EKU? That same EKU staff got fired after last season. If stoops gets us to a bowl game then he deserves more time. Another 4 or 5 win season , I think we should find a new coach.
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We fired Curry because he sucked and he had plenty of time not to.
We fired Mumme because we had no choice. He was cheating and put us on probation.
We didn't fire Morris. We didn't match an offer from Baylor.
We didn't fire Brooks. He retired.
We fired Phillips because he took our program from the most stable footing anyone here had inherited and unraveled it quickly.
We haven't fired Stoops yet.
Not exactly the coaching carousel of unwarranted dismissals some act like.
We fired Mumme because we had no choice. He was cheating and put us on probation.
We didn't fire Morris. We didn't match an offer from Baylor.
We didn't fire Brooks. He retired.
We fired Phillips because he took our program from the most stable footing anyone here had inherited and unraveled it quickly.
We haven't fired Stoops yet.
Not exactly the coaching carousel of unwarranted dismissals some act like.
And a team that's forever young and inexperienced.
Thanks for the post-Claiborne coaching synopsis (May he Rest In Peace). Curry should've been fired after the 1-10 fiasco in'94. Instead Newton let him call coach two more years. That extra two years really provided a lot of stability. (Looking at you EZBLUE1).