These 17ers give me more reason to stop watching every week. Looking forward to the implosion so we can return to true student athletes
No State income tax for NIL
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I wonder how long it will be until we hear of tax evasion cases?
We truly have the worse fans in all of collegiate sports. It really blows my mind how much this fan base pushes against progress.
Certainly there are no absolutes, but I have a hard time seeing why an entertainer (and that is what they are) should not get taxed while a school teacher does? Does the bill only apply to NIL for college athletes, or could a musical artist that plays in a bar switch their fee to an NIL and be sponsored by Juicy Jumbos and also avoid the tax?
This has become madness. We went from somebody being excited about getting a free education to play a game, to “i demand a million plus dollars and you better not tax me or I will transfer”
disclaimer: I live in a tax feee state, but still………
Fk them ….pay ur fair share. Reminds me of the Obama gay marriage issue. Oh we just want to love who we love nothing more. And now they want to drug mutilate children and share the same toilet with lil girls. Oh we just want to be able to buy a burger after the game or take my girl on a date. And now lambos and tax cheats. Again fk them!!
Too bad you can’t go into it further...
Way back when my father was on a Board of Supervisors, I liked the little behind the scenes tidbits he sometimes shared…
I would have asked him a question that would have satisfied my curiosity if he’d told a similar story…
Between the high level state contacts you make being on a BOS, federal contacts you make, developing very close relationships with your own Rep and Senator (my Rep and I have been friends since childhood) and other Reps and Senators, developing close relationships with fellow Supervisors from other parts of the state, our Mississippi Association of Supervisors ladies and guys that stay at the Capitol lobbying or gathering info about bills coming through, and our own Board's paid lobbyist, we do get a good behind the scenes view of the sausage being made. But we have to. To make sure they don't pass something that will affect our ability to serve our constituents, take our tax money from us, pass a bill that is an unfunded mandate, etc...Shmuley has some decent contacts, too.
Yet you’re on a state fan message board telling the players that play for your fav team to 17off.
You won’t find this argument on another sec message board only at state. Where we complain about paying players
You and I simply have a different definition of the word 'progress'.
This proposed law shouldnt exist in any state, unless that state already doesnt collect income tax.
So just because other states unjustifiably pass a law doesnt mean it should happen for Mississippi athletes too.
I didnt attend any of my state's universities. I would be annoyed if my state passed this law.
Point is- its not a fanbase issue. Its unjustifiable regardless of if you are a fan of a college in your state.
How does eliminating state income tax on NIL deals trigger you so much that you manage to compare it to mutilating children and sharing a toilet with a child?
Stop it.
We should pass a NIL jock tax, so that we can take NIL money from players from Bama, LSU, Texas, etc...
Explain how it is “progress” to give zero state income tax to anyone making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, if not millions? It essentially makes every tax payer in the state an NIL contributor, whether they want to be or not.
This is a nationwide clown show. Setting a zero state income tax on NIL below a certain annual cap, like $30-$40k? Sure, that might be reasonable, and simplify filing for many athletes in the non-revenue sports. I still disagree with even that, but I could at least entertain arguments to the contrary there. But a blanket exemption across the board to what will end up being well over $100 million per year just for MSU and OM athletes alone? Total nonsense.
The morally correct stance is to tax teachers, police officers, custodians and pretty much everyone else but the backup running back. If you don't understand that basic moral principle it's because you're likely a sexist, transphobic, fascistic monster who worships Hitler.***
Not to criticize anyone's post, but please keep it to sports. When we deviate from sports, that allows all those on here who know nothing about sports to sound off on the crap that none of us care about. It also plays right into the hands of a few social justice warriors on this board, and I think we all know those individuals. It is time we made a sports message board about sports rather than letting a few loud folks use AI plus other means to deflect from the fact that they actually know nothing about sports. Just one Devil's opinion.
To answer the question, of course these athletes should be taxed. It is only right when people doing more work that has more impact are paying their taxes. Let the kids belly up to the table like everyone else.
To answer the question, of course these athletes should be taxed. It is only right when people doing more work that has more impact are paying their taxes. Let the kids belly up to the table like everyone else.
California does that for professional athletes.
@patdog — What if Mississippi taxed student athletes at out of state institutions receiving NIL who play in Mississippi?
I do not know if NIL is taxed in every state you play in, but I would assume it would be.
This leads to another point. What about the citizens who didn’t go to college, are not fans of college sports, and rightfully pay their taxes in Mississippi? How is it fair to them?
Creating a special class of highly paid citizens who don’t have to pay state taxes is stupid. I don’t care if neighboring states are doing it. Instead, this would be a great time to push through a bill to drop state taxes for everyone.
Most of you all can’t see how this gives us a chance and a competitive advantage. Arkansas fans aren’t bitchin about this neither are Alabama and AU fans. Hell neither are OM fans but leave it to our fans to ***** and moan over this
Competitive advantage? If this is done to just keep up with what many others have done, that isnt a competitive advantage. Its just trying to keep up with the Joneses.
If we have a kid instate or even out of state we want and can match resources but the caveat was will the kids taxes in Mississippi are going to eat away at his earnings the we won’t sign the kid. Not sure why this is so hard for some of you all to understand. Texas Tenn FL have zero state income taxes AL AR have already passed this no tax on NIL and Louisiana is looking at doing so as well. It’s imperative that we make this happen to maintain competitiveness.
It isnt difficult for me to understand.
1- You assume every kid will only consider NIL net earnings when deciding where to go. It will be a motivation for all and a primary for some to many. It is not the only thing all will consider.
2- The scenario you are worried about has been happening for decades with working adults, yet states that tax income are very much around and many are thriving in population, economics, entertainment, and more.
3- You claim this is MSU fans complaining about paying players. Your claim is incorrect in this thread. Complaining about NIL not being taxed by the state is not the same as complaining about paying players.
4- Your claim that this is a competitive advantage shows you dont know what that term means.
5- I am going to again say you dont understand what the word 'progress' means. Change does not inherently mean progress.
some of the greatest threads ever posted on here have not been sports related. Ryan's steakhouse incident, JackAtShelter breaking Trent Lott's shitecanning before anyone else in the world knew, DD and Horse face girl, and the list goes on.... if you don't like reading the ones that aren't sports related, that's easy to fix
Ok cool. Thank you for telling me where you are on the issue. Also, thanks for giving me everything I need to know.
Fans, or residents? I guarantee you there’s a ton of the latter bitching in all those places.
The point is a simple one - give everyone no state income tax, or don’t. If there was ever a path to getting rid of the tax in general, you put yourself that much further away by not taxing $120 million per year or so in legit earnings to a select few people, and you force everyone else to cover that shortfall whether they give a shít about college athletics or not.
Its not hard for anyone to understand. Most people simply think using actual public funds to subsidize NIL even further than it is already being subsidized by boosters and collectives is a straight up terrible idea. And one that is very unfair to many hardworking people.
The vote was 76-32. I hope there are 76 new representatives in the next few election cycles. Attempting to find the NOC list now.
Well, us and Arkansas are the only ignorant states doing this right now. AL and GA are in court over theirs I believe. The states where income isn't taxed are the others. It's ignorant, many of these kids aren't even from MS. Can't run a liquor business correctly because they say the tax system is too complicated but they cut these players a tax break? I think I'll pocket my NIL donations now. Poorest state in America giving tax breaks to college kids already making more than the average Mississippian.
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Are you a retard?? Give an inch take a mile mean anything to you?
How does eliminating state income tax on NIL deals trigger you so much that you manage to compare it to mutilating children and sharing a toilet with a child?
Stop it.
I can’t help but wonder how many people just on this board think this is a good idea that don’t live in the state and wouldn’t be impacted by this change. The special treatment of athletes has to end somewhere. If all income is taxed, then NIL shouldn’t be made exempt. These athletes can afford to pay ~4%. If that’s the difference in said athletes playing for a school in a different state, oh well.
The politicians who “voted to not tax NIL” are the 76 House members who voted yea on HB 4014 (in favor of the exemption). A full individual roll call list of names is available in the official legislative record (House Journal or vote PDF at legislature.ms.gov), but it’s not summarized in public news sources. Key sponsors (who introduced and championed it, implying strong support) include:
• Rep. Jonathan McMillan (R-Madison) – principal author.
• Rep. Fred Shanks (R-Madison) – co-author.
• Rep. Omeria Scott (D-Clarke, Jasper, Jones) – co-author (bipartisan element).
Other noted supporters in coverage include Rep. Trey Lamar (R-Senatobia), who advocated for it to stay competitive in NIL/recruiting.
For the full list of the 76 yea votes or more details, check the official Mississippi Legislature site: bill status for HB 4014 at https://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2026/pdf/history/HB/HB4014.xml (includes link to roll call PDF).
Contact Info: The Mississippi House maintains a directory at https://www.legislature.ms.gov/legislators/representatives. Each representative has a profile with office phone, email (typically [email protected] or similar), district info, and capitol contact (P.O. Box 1018, Jackson, MS 39215; main House number: 601-359-3360). For example:
• Search for Rep. Jonathan McMillan, Rep. Fred Shanks, etc., via the roster.
• General inquiries: House Docket Room at (601) 359-3360.
If you’re looking to contact specific reps who supported it, start with the sponsors or use the legislature’s site to find your district rep. The bill remains pending in the Senate as of early March 2026.
• Rep. Jonathan McMillan (R-Madison) – principal author.
• Rep. Fred Shanks (R-Madison) – co-author.
• Rep. Omeria Scott (D-Clarke, Jasper, Jones) – co-author (bipartisan element).
Other noted supporters in coverage include Rep. Trey Lamar (R-Senatobia), who advocated for it to stay competitive in NIL/recruiting.
For the full list of the 76 yea votes or more details, check the official Mississippi Legislature site: bill status for HB 4014 at https://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2026/pdf/history/HB/HB4014.xml (includes link to roll call PDF).
Contact Info: The Mississippi House maintains a directory at https://www.legislature.ms.gov/legislators/representatives. Each representative has a profile with office phone, email (typically [email protected] or similar), district info, and capitol contact (P.O. Box 1018, Jackson, MS 39215; main House number: 601-359-3360). For example:
• Search for Rep. Jonathan McMillan, Rep. Fred Shanks, etc., via the roster.
• General inquiries: House Docket Room at (601) 359-3360.
If you’re looking to contact specific reps who supported it, start with the sponsors or use the legislature’s site to find your district rep. The bill remains pending in the Senate as of early March 2026.
Where's Rick Cleveland? He's usually all over stuff like this.
B. No. 4014 passed by the following vote:
Yeas--Anderson (110th), Anthony, Arnold, Bailey (23rd), Banks, Barton,
Bell (21st), Bell (65th), Bounds, Boyd (19th), Boyd (37th), Burnett, Butler-Washington,
Byrd, Calvert, Carpenter, Clark, Cockerham, Creekmore IV, Crudup, Deweese, Elliott,
Evans, Fondren, Ford (54th), Foster, Gibbs (36th), Grady, Guice, Hale, Hall, Harness,
Hawkins, Hood, Horne, Hulum, Hurst, Jackson (11th), Jackson (45th), James-Jones,
Keen, Lamar, Lott, Mangold, Mansell, Massengill, McLean, McMillan, Mickens, Mims,
Morgan, Nelson, Oliver, Pigott, Read, Remak, Roberson, Rosebud, Rushing, Sanders,
Sanford, Scott, Shanks, Smith, Steverson, Taylor, Tubb, Tullos, Turner, Varner, Waldo,
Wallace, Williams, Yates, Zuber, Mr. Speaker. Total--76.
Nays--Aguirre, Anderson (122nd), Bailey (49th), Barnett, Bennett, Blackwell,
Crawford, Crosby, Currie, Estrada, Eubanks, Eure, Felsher, Gibbs (72nd), Haney,
Harris, Hobgood-Wilkes, Karriem, Kinkade, Ladner, Mattox, McCarty, McCray, McGee,
McKnight, Newman, Osborne, Powell, Scoggin, Thompson, Watson, Yancey. Total--32.
Absent or those not voting--Brown, Burch, Denton, Faulkner, Ford (73rd),
Holloway (27th), Holloway (76th), Horan, Owen, Summers. Total--10.
Present--Blackmon, Hines, Johnson, Porter. Total--4.
Necessary for Passage--65.
Yeas--Anderson (110th), Anthony, Arnold, Bailey (23rd), Banks, Barton,
Bell (21st), Bell (65th), Bounds, Boyd (19th), Boyd (37th), Burnett, Butler-Washington,
Byrd, Calvert, Carpenter, Clark, Cockerham, Creekmore IV, Crudup, Deweese, Elliott,
Evans, Fondren, Ford (54th), Foster, Gibbs (36th), Grady, Guice, Hale, Hall, Harness,
Hawkins, Hood, Horne, Hulum, Hurst, Jackson (11th), Jackson (45th), James-Jones,
Keen, Lamar, Lott, Mangold, Mansell, Massengill, McLean, McMillan, Mickens, Mims,
Morgan, Nelson, Oliver, Pigott, Read, Remak, Roberson, Rosebud, Rushing, Sanders,
Sanford, Scott, Shanks, Smith, Steverson, Taylor, Tubb, Tullos, Turner, Varner, Waldo,
Wallace, Williams, Yates, Zuber, Mr. Speaker. Total--76.
Nays--Aguirre, Anderson (122nd), Bailey (49th), Barnett, Bennett, Blackwell,
Crawford, Crosby, Currie, Estrada, Eubanks, Eure, Felsher, Gibbs (72nd), Haney,
Harris, Hobgood-Wilkes, Karriem, Kinkade, Ladner, Mattox, McCarty, McCray, McGee,
McKnight, Newman, Osborne, Powell, Scoggin, Thompson, Watson, Yancey. Total--32.
Absent or those not voting--Brown, Burch, Denton, Faulkner, Ford (73rd),
Holloway (27th), Holloway (76th), Horan, Owen, Summers. Total--10.
Present--Blackmon, Hines, Johnson, Porter. Total--4.
Necessary for Passage--65.
Threads like this help me understand how Ole Miss has been able to embrace the NIL era and win big, while Mississippi State fell to the bottom of the SEC.
The old days of college football are dead and are never coming back.
The old days of college football are dead and are never coming back.