Number of plays per game: Style vs substance. Who are we?

bulldoghair

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So we are currently ranked 15th in the country in number of offensive plays run per game, with a record of 1-7.

Indiana is ranked #70 in plays per game, they are 8-0. Army is ranked #123, they are 8-0. Missouri is ranked #33, they are 6-2. Iowa St is ranked #20, they are 8-0. Vanderbilt is ranked #97, and everyone knows how good they’ve played this year at 5-3.
Note- All of these teams are ranked in the top 20 in the fewest plays per game allowed for their opponents. Vanderbilt limited Alabama to 44 offensive plays. Could Vandy have beaten or ever beaten Alabama playing any other way? Our defense on the other hand might be the worst defense in all of college football. So why are we trying to go so fast and run so many plays?

Here the point, all of these teams know exactly who they are and what they are up against. Their commitment to an overall style of play gives them the best opportunity to win against the bigger school and win in general on a consistent basis. Granted all these teams I mentioned don’t run the same schemes, but their schemes work together with their overall game plan to punch up in weight. Some of you are so enamored with fools gold garbage points and yardage ect. Who cares, nothing matters except wins and losses. So who are we? What style of play best suits our chances here at Mississippi State? Are we doing that?
 
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You’ve said, “All I said, was that our plays per game would be the same or better with a competent defense since that is how this offense tends to operate and a bad defense is irrelevant.”

Sure that what Lebby is doing, but we don’t start doing anything until we’re down multiple scores. Other words, the other team plays us differently, as in softer with their defense. The teams I mentioned above have great win loss records, so their offenses are getting the other teams best efforts the whole game. We’re not. If our defense was good, then the other teams would clamp down and we would face a much more motivated defense with mixed in blitz and coverages. Other words, our offense would go more 3 and outs, and overall wouldn’t get the ball back as quickly either if our defense was holding them longer on the field and making their offenses work harder. Bottom line is, we’re 15th in the country in offensive plays per game run, while still only ranked #90th in points per game, with a 1-7 record.

To be honest, playing a different style of offense would actually help us out, by short the game, and possibly giving us a puncher’s chance, ala the other team’s strategy above as I mentioned.
 

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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

It’s easy to run a ton of plays when the other team scores almost immediately and you get the ball right back.

We have no defense. At all. When 50% of your team doesn’t exist it is impossible to have an identity.
 

bulldoghair

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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

It’s easy to run a ton of plays when the other team scores almost immediately and you get the ball right back.

We have no defense. At all. When 50% of your team doesn’t exist it is impossible to have an identity.
Yes. But did anyone notice in the Texas game, that Lebby for once didn’t try to go fast on offense, and thus we limited Texas to only 26 offensive snaps, and 2 of those were punts. So 24 actually offensive snaps. Down one score at the half as a result. Only game all year where Lebby understood who we are and the talent level he’s playing against.
 
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The Cooterpoot

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Yes. But did anyone notice in the Texas game, that Lebby for once didn’t try to go fast on offense, and thus we limited Texas to only 26 offensive snaps, and 2 of those were punts. So 24 actually offensive snaps. Down one score at the half as a result. Only game all year where Lebby understood who we are and the talent level he’s playing against.
Lebby realizes his defense doesn't exist. So he goes for 4th down a lot and tries to get an advantage with tempo after a 1st down or big play. It works, we just happen to be playing the 2nd toughest schedule in college football. It worked against Arkansas we just had stupid plays and players running a slow pace in the red zone.
Your argument continues to be ignorant troll.
 

bulldoghair

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All those teams have a defense with a pulse.
That is true, but their offensive identity and strategy also play to shorten the game and help their defense as well. Yes our defense is bad, and our offensive approach doesn’t help either. But they showed up better in the first half against Texas a little better as I pointed out.
 

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Yes. But did anyone notice in the Texas game, that Lebby for once didn’t try to go fast on offense, and thus we limited Texas to only 26 offensive snaps, and 2 of those were punts. So 24 actually offensive snaps. Down one score at the half as a result. Only game all year where Lebby understood who we are and the talent level he’s playing against.
Very good point. That's how you stay in the game against a more talented team. Limit the number of plays. You have a better chance to win in an 80 total snaps game than you do in a 150 total snaps game.
 
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bulldoghair

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Very good point. That's how you stay in the game against a more talented team. Limit the number of plays. You have a better chance to win in an 80 total snaps game than you do in a 150 total snaps game.
I expect Lebby to do his usual this week and try to go fast, and i expect, as we should, blow them out and run up the score. But when reality sets back in the next week at Tennessee, what will Lebby do. Will he be a smart head coach and approach it like he did at Texas? Or will he continue to not give a **** and do the same thing he usually does?
 
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So we are currently ranked 15th in the country in number of offensive plays run per game, with a record of 1-7.

Indiana is ranked #70 in plays per game, they are 8-0. Army is ranked #123, they are 8-0. Missouri is ranked #33, they are 6-2. Iowa St is ranked #20, they are 8-0. Vanderbilt is ranked #97, and everyone knows how good they’ve played this year at 5-3.
Note- All of these teams are ranked in the top 20 in the fewest plays per game allowed for their opponents. Vanderbilt limited Alabama to 44 offensive plays. Could Vandy have beaten or ever beaten Alabama playing any other way? Our defense on the other hand might be the worst defense in all of college football. So why are we trying to go so fast and run so many plays?

Here the point, all of these teams know exactly who they are and what they are up against. Their commitment to an overall style of play gives them the best opportunity to win against the bigger school and win in general on a consistent basis. Granted all these teams I mentioned don’t run the same schemes, but their schemes work together with their overall game plan to punch up in weight. Some of you are so enamored with fools gold garbage points and yardage ect. Who cares, nothing matters except wins and losses. So who are we? What style of play best suits our chances here at Mississippi State? Are we doing that?
All I saw was “1-7”

Pretty much all I need to know
 
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