Ole miss extend Kiffin

TheDawg-Pound

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That's the difference with someone wanting to be there long term and someone weighing his options. He's their Mullen. He doesn't mind it there but to say he loves it.. well I think this proves that's just smoke and mirrors and um fans do and say everything to paint them in the prefect light. They say it enough many of yall believe it.
 

TheDawg-Pound

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I don’t know that there’s a plan to move on. He may wind up staying. But he’s definitely weighing his options.
At this point I hope that he stays but Florida breaks UM keeping Kiffin. UM might go all in to keep him just to keep their image. With a harder schedule and less money, Kiffin luster might fade. The fact UM is use to winning at their current level and if he doesn't reach that, well it could work in our favor as Lebby continues to build and Kiffin continues to shop each year.
 

onewoof

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The difference in the Cignetti deal and the Kiffin deal is obvious to a blind deaf man. If there is no significant extension and raise for a coach in Kiffin's position announced, it would be a first. It will not be a first.

What is the ceiling for Ole Miss? I say it is about a #5 final ranking without almost doubling what they are spending. To get to where Bama, Georgia and Ohio State are at every year is something few programs are willing to do. As mentioned here several times, it is really about having about 50 players that can start on any team in the country and get paid what starters get paid. You can't make a run deep into the playoffs with 22 players that are not clearly starters at their positions.
 
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I wouldn't go to any of the open college jobs, but the right NFL job would be hard to turn down.
 

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Hahaha. Just kidding.
A bunch of yall have said for years he's there long term. It didn't take Indiana a week to get their deal done. What's taking so long?
There’s nobody coming after Cignetti. He’s old as hell. The Indiana comparison just doesn’t hold water.
 
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The fact this isn't wrapped up shows there's already a plan to move on
He's in the middle of the season with a potential playoff team bud. No one knows if there's a "plan to move on" or not. This is Kiffin and Jimmy Sexton 101, to a script. He might go to Florida after the season ends, but some of ya'll are dumber than a box of rocks on this stuff (as in: desperate)
 
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The difference in the Cignetti deal and the Kiffin deal is obvious to a blind deaf man. If there is no significant extension and raise for a coach in Kiffin's position announced, it would be a first. It will not be a first.

What is the ceiling for Ole Miss? I say it is about a #5 final ranking without almost doubling what they are spending. To get to where Bama, Georgia and Ohio State are at every year is something few programs are willing to do. As mentioned here several times, it is really about having about 50 players that can start on any team in the country and get paid what starters get paid. You can't make a run deep into the playoffs with 22 players that are not clearly starters at their positions.
Give me a #5 final ranking at a Mississippi school every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 

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Rumblings along OM streets are that he’ll stay at OM with a $13.5M extension
 

TheDawg-Pound

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His agent and creativity with the MS contract restrictions. He is not going anywhere. I don’t see why this is so hard to fathom.
Back at you. It's not like they just put this into law. Haven't yall said for years how they already have a work around.
Man yall will buy anything their selling.

Again I'm not saying he won't stay but this goes against the narrative of how much he loves it there and won't leave.

If that was the case the deal would be done.
 
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Perd Hapley

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He's 64 and has 6 to 8 years in him. And he's got a nobody team in the playoffs and the program gets noticably better every year. You act like he's Bozo Bill at UNC.

He already had a huge extension done last year that had him making over $8 million per year for 8 or 9 years. The one he did this year was just a market adjustment pretty much.

Even without this year’s extension, nobody was paying $60-$70 million in buyout money, plus $12-$13 million per year annually to a dude who will be 65 years old before the beginning of the 2026 season….and who essentially had done nothing notable in his career prior to 2023. There’s a really strong chance that IU will regret it, too, at some point.

He’s a good coach, but he ain’t Shohei Ohtani and isn’t worth committing a small country’s entire GDP to lock up for 8-10 years at his current age. We’ll see how good he really is whenever IU plays a real schedule, and his influx of JMU players runs out.

Kiffin is still in his early 50’s and is a completely different story. He would be completely foolish to sign an extension midseason in this year of all years.
 

onewoof

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Kiffin is still in his early 50’s and is a completely different story. He would be completely foolish to sign an extension midseason in this year of all years.
Neither of them will win a championship where they currently are. That's just a cold hard truth. This isn't a made for TV Disney movie.
 

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He did this once before when AU was courting him. I expect him to wait until the dust settles on all the offers coming his way.
 

patdog

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He already had a huge extension done last year that had him making over $8 million per year for 8 or 9 years. The one he did this year was just a market adjustment pretty much.

Even without this year’s extension, nobody was paying $60-$70 million in buyout money, plus $12-$13 million per year annually to a dude who will be 65 years old before the beginning of the 2026 season….and who essentially had done nothing notable in his career prior to 2023. There’s a really strong chance that IU will regret it, too, at some point.

He’s a good coach, but he ain’t Shohei Ohtani and isn’t worth committing a small country’s entire GDP to lock up for 8-10 years at his current age. We’ll see how good he really is whenever IU plays a real schedule, and his influx of JMU players runs out.

Kiffin is still in his early 50’s and is a completely different story. He would be completely foolish to sign an extension midseason in this year of all years.
I can promise you Cignetti could have gotten one of the bigger jobs. There’s a lot of them open & very few big coaches to fill them. It’s not uncommon for coaches to coach onto their 70s. These schools know whoever they sign is not likely to be there more than 6-8 years anyway. If he was 68 yeah age would be a deal breaker. But not at 64.
 

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I think the stays, because in Oxford, Kiffin is bigger than the program and answers to no one. That will not be the case anywhere else.
 
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patdog

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At this point I hope that he stays but Florida breaks UM keeping Kiffin. UM might go all in to keep him just to keep their image. With a harder schedule and less money, Kiffin luster might fade. The fact UM is use to winning at their current level and if he doesn't reach that, well it could work in our favor as Lebby continues to build and Kiffin continues to shop each year.
I hope he leaves. This wish that he’ll”break them” is just wishful thinking. Winning generates money. If he stays whatever they pay they’ll make up in additional revenue. We dont win much these days because we dont invest in a good coach. We Larry Templeton it & we get 1980s results.
 

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Kiffin ain't going anywhere. He won't have the offers. This is classic Sexton and classic Ole Miss. Sexton has probably already done his bit. What's probably going on now is Ole Miss building the hype so they can make a big splash when he "stays." Y'all just need to give it up.
 
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His agent and creativity with the MS contract restrictions. He is not going anywhere. I don’t see why this is so hard to fathom.
Because it would be a really rare occurrence. Name the last college head coach to be content at a non-blue blood when he was highly desired by blue bloods? Beamer is the closest I can come up with, but he never was the hottest name that I can remember. Maybe that's because programs knew he wouldn't leave.

I think Stoops was reasonably happy at UK until they got frustrated with him. But I don't think he ever had a big name program interested before A&M, and he was going to leave.

Spurrier to my knowledge was never shopping himself while at USCe. But his star wasn't quite as bright at that point and he was old.

I'm sure there is one or two out there, but I sure can't think of any. I really can't think of anybody that has chased jobs like Kiffin and then decided he was content at a non-blue blood. He has already been at USCw and been fired, so maybe that changes his perspective. Probably would if he wasn't so young. But with him being so young, I think it's just as likely it makes him want to win a championship to show they wrong to fire him.

ETA: Cignietti is an obvious one, but he's older and this is his first big gig. He basically set his family by going ahead and agreeing to a deal. Kiffin doesn't have any pressure like that. THe money is taken care of. All he has to decide is if he wants lower expectations and comfort of not changing jobs, or the chance to win a championship.
 
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Neither of them will win a championship where they currently are. That's just a cold hard truth. This isn't a made for TV Disney movie.
That may be true and it may not be. But even if it is, that doesn’t make Cignetti more appealing at his age and at the buyout he already had it it place. And if it is true, then Cignetti isn’t that interested in winning a title or else he wouldn’t have signed mid-year extensions at IU in back-to-back years.

Again, he was making $8 million per year and had around a $60-$70 million buyout BEFORE this year’s extension. A Penn State, LSU, or Florida would have had to pay a total of $90-$110 million in buyout money before they even started paying the salary of a 65 year old coach. It’s a non-starter.
 
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Perd Hapley

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I can promise you Cignetti could have gotten one of the bigger jobs. There’s a lot of them open & very few big coaches to fill them. It’s not uncommon for coaches to coach onto their 70s. These schools know whoever they sign is not likely to be there more than 6-8 years anyway. If he was 68 yeah age would be a deal breaker. But not at 64.
It would take nearly $100 million in buyout money for Penn State, LSU, Florida, or Auburn before they even started to pay his salary. It wouldn’t happen for a 65 year old coach who still doesn’t have any true marquee wins.
 

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Kiffin ain't going anywhere. He won't have the offers. This is classic Sexton and classic Ole Miss. Sexton has probably already done his bit. What's probably going on now is Ole Miss building the hype so they can make a big splash when he "stays." Y'all just need to give it up.
I keep seeing you post this, and I just dont get it. I dont know if he will leave or not, but to think he won't get offers seems crazy to me. He is a really good coach getting results at a school that is not a "blue blood", he is young, he is a media darling, he is one of the hottest names out there, etc etc. He checks a lot of boxes, but the biggest box he checks is that he falls into the category of "might leave". He has been the first name mentioned for the FL job and LSU job at the very least, and I think he would get a look from an NFL team (MIA). What you keep pointing out as negatives used to be valid, but that is water way under the bridge at this point.
 

Perd Hapley

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I keep seeing you post this, and I just dont get it. I dont know if he will leave or not, but to think he won't get offers seems crazy to me. He is a really good coach getting results at a school that is not a "blue blood", he is young, he is a media darling, he is one of the hottest names out there, etc etc. He checks a lot of boxes, but the biggest box he checks is that he falls into the category of "might leave". He has been the first name mentioned for the FL job and LSU job at the very least, and I think he would get a look from an NFL team (MIA). What you keep pointing out as negatives used to be valid, but that is water way under the bridge at this point.
He’s a MSU fan and a USC Trojans fan who thinks that Kiffin is damaged goods that “nobody wants”.

You couldn’t create a more blatantly biased and subjective judge of Kiffin’s character and desirability if you tried.
 

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UF has 13.5 on the table right now. I don't think OM will have to match that to keep him, but it will need to be close- ish.
 
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That may be true and it may not be. But even if it is, that doesn’t make Cignetti more appealing at his age and at the buyout he already had it it place. And if it is true, then Cignetti isn’t that interested in winning a title or else he wouldn’t have signed mid-year extensions at IU in back-to-back years.

Again, he was making $8 million per year and had around a $60-$70 million buyout BEFORE this year’s extension. A Penn State, LSU, or Florida would have had to pay a total of $90-$110 million in buyout money before they even started paying the salary of a 65 year old coach. It’s a non-starter.
I think one thing that's been proven is money is not an issue for these schools. If they hired a 64-year old coach and he made the playoffs the next 6 years and won a national title before retiring, they'd all consider that a huge win. Indiana didn't immediately extend him for more money if he wasn't going to be a strong target for these jobs.
 
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I think it is an insult to compare Kiffin to Mullen at this point. Kiffin’s worst conference win total is 4 and is 30-17 in conference. Mullen was 33-39 in conference at State, won fewer than 4 conference games 4 out of 9 years, and only finished higher than 4-4 once. Kiffin is more like Chris Peterson than Dan Mullen.
 
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This is actual great for them the longer it goes and if he stays. He automatically got an extension with his 7th win. If he "officially" says he is staying, like the coach at Indiana, then ESPN will not talk about him EVERY Day. Currently kids that watch ESPN hear his name all the time. If he does not leave, he can tell recruits that everyone wanted him and his staff, but he chose to stay a build something special. If this is why he is waiting, I think it genius, you can't pay for better publicity. Hate it for us but is would not surprise me.
 

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What's probably going on now is Ole Miss building the hype so they can make a big splash when he "stays." Y'all just need to give it up.

Agree with this. If it's one thing UMiss really does excel at, it's selling themselves. Kiffin stays and suddenly it's because Oxford is the world's greatest town and university, and not because other schools just weren't serious about hiring him away.
 

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Back at you. It's not like they just put this into law. Haven't yall said for years how they already have a work around.
Man yall will buy anything their selling.

Again I'm not saying he won't stay but this goes against the narrative of how much he loves it there and won't leave.

If that was the case the deal would be done.
Not for nothing, but the more this gets talked about, the worse it is for Ole Miss and their team and their fans. Reminiscent of the Merlinz annual whorefest, which we hated at the time.

I subscribe to the age old truism: "f*ck Ole Miss", and I don't know why it's so frowned upon by some of our own fans for us to stir the pot. Those bowtie wearing cuntshits enjoyed doing it to us for years.

Lane is looking around. I heard it from an Uber driver in Water Valley just this weekend. I have no way to know if this part is true, but he said there is a pregnant hair stylist over on West Jackson Street who told him she knew first hand.

PS, 17 'em.
 

Perd Hapley

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I think one thing that's been proven is money is not an issue for these schools. If they hired a 64-year old coach and he made the playoffs the next 6 years and won a national title before retiring, they'd all consider that a huge win.
Except nobody is going to be capable of doing that, save for maybe Ohio State and/or UGA, and they both already have NC winning coaches (one who is about to get another one). Everyone else is a big fish in a big pond (SEC teams with mid-level / unproven coaches), a small fish in a small pond (ACC/B1G), or a mid-sized fish in a pond with a great white shark in it (every B1G team besides Ohio State).

Indiana didn't immediately extend him for more money if he wasn't going to be a strong target for these jobs.

Indiana literally doubled his salary halfway through his very first season, before they even made the CFP. Then they gave him a huge raise on that amount this year, to make him the 3rd highest paid coach in all of college football (behind only Kirby and Day).

I’m going to repeat that in different terms. Indiana made a 64 year old guy with one career Top 25 win, no career playoff wins, and no Top 8 finishes the 3rd highest paid coach in all of college football, ahead of a guy with multiple titles (Dabo). Ahead of Sarkisian, Elko, DeBoer, Freeman, Dillingham, Lanning, and many others. Every single one of those guys has done at least as much as Cignetti, and all except for maybe Elko have actually done more. And every single one of those guys is under 50 years old, and somehow still have a longer track record than Cignetti.

The bottom line is that Cignetti seems to be a great coach, but IU is still overpaying him by an absolute shít ton. Both of those things can be true. And I don’t think anyone would be surprised at all if he starts fading in 2-3 years, as it will likely not be sustainable for them to pay both him and the players what is required to keep the current level of success rolling.