OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders

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Not trying to be a pain (really). But every hockey fan focuses on the calls that don’t go their way while looking past the calls that favor them. That’s all this was tonight.

I am enjoying the win, but will push back against officiating gripes. Especially when it wasn’t that bad.

Game 7 could go either way. What more could we ask for….another Rangers/Devils playoff series going the distance.

Can't blame this one on the refs.... Ouch!
 

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You said stats about elimination games dont mean anything. In otherwords the most high pressure games in sports are like preseason games. Its very funny. LOL
Show me points per game in elimination games and then maybe you'll have a point. I'm sure there are more clutch players that just haven't played in as many elimination games.
 
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Show me points per game in elimination games and then maybe you'll have a point. I'm sure there are more clutch players that just haven't played in as many elimination games.
if you took that as me saying chris kreider is the best player in nhl history when facing elimination then you're shot to ****. He's a VERY GOOD playoff players. Not the best playoff forward of all time. Stop being an idiot
 

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It’s a shame this series is an opening round matchup. Worthy of an Eastern Conference Final a la 1994. Both teams are terrific and whoever loses has nothing to be embarrassed of!
 

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Devils dominated the first 18 min. Two bullsh&t, ticky-tac calls changed the game in the last 2 min of the period. How they missed stick to Tatar's face is hard to explain. Fact is they didn't miss it, they just didn't call it.
Believe Devils are the better club. Game 7 will depend on Goalies & Refs.
This crap of a penalty for touching a guys stick & he drops it has got to go.
 
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Lindy Ruff has a 0-4 record in Game 7. If that record goes to 0-5 he must be replaced.

I could make this long, talking about a lot of players, but will only talk about Nico Hischier. As simple as I can state this, this type of no-show from a captain, is grounds for replacement!

I would also can Ruff if Wood or Smith get inserted into the lineup.

It is interesting going back and reading Rangers fan's ***** about how lifeless their team came out in Game 6 at 1-0. This includes some of the NYR fan's, that kept quoting me, for a hot take in Game. Enjoy it, and leave me alone. I don't do that to anyone in this thread.

Simply put, even the Rangers broadcasters were stunned at some of the no calls. Breathe, home cooking like that will not happen for the Devils in Game 7. With such a discrepancy in calls, with multiple "fouls" going uncalled in front of the ref's, yes they put their palm down on the scale. Not the only factor, but a big enough factor to change the game Just for the fact Jack Hughes does not play on the penalty kill. Nothing changes the flow of a game like special teams.

The Devils especially defense, played horribly. That said, from the time the calls went heavily for the home team, the whole game changed. It is therefore impossible to know what would have happened, if it was called evenly for both teams. Give Miller credit, it certainly looked like he dropped his stick before contact. I always love when they give the late power plays after the game is decided. Gives plausible deniability, but don't void down my back and tell me it's raining. I don't know or care why it happened, but it happened.

So yes Rangers fan's enjoy '94 redux. Of course there are minor changes, but the results will most likely be the same. Unless this Devils team finds their A game again.
 

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The NHL needs to rethink that tripping rule on Mercer. He makes the defensive play of his life and gets penalized. By letter of the law, you really can't stop a breakaway.

For giggles and laughs, change the rules so that a goalie can only play 2 periods + overtime. The scoring would be up 😆. YEAH OFFENSE!
 

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Lindy Ruff has a 0-4 record in Game 7. If that record goes to 0-5 he must be replaced.

I could make this long, talking about a lot of players, but will only talk about Nico Hischier. As simple as I can state this, this type of no-show from a captain, is grounds for replacement!

I would also can Ruff if Wood or Smith get inserted into the lineup.

It is interesting going back and reading Rangers fan's ***** about how lifeless their team came out in Game 6 at 1-0. This includes some of the NYR fan's, that kept quoting me, for a hot take in Game. Enjoy it, and leave me alone. I don't do that to anyone in this thread.

Simply put, even the Rangers broadcasters were stunned at some of the no calls. Breathe, home cooking like that will not happen for the Devils in Game 7. With such a discrepancy in calls, with multiple "fouls" going uncalled in front of the ref's, yes they put their palm down on the scale. Not the only factor, but a big enough factor to change the game Just for the fact Jack Hughes does not play on the penalty kill. Nothing changes the flow of a game like special teams.

The Devils especially defense, played horribly. That said, from the time the calls went heavily for the home team, the whole game changed. It is therefore impossible to know what would have happened, if it was called evenly for both teams. Give Miller credit, it certainly looked like he dropped his stick before contact. I always love when they give the late power plays after the game is decided. Gives plausible deniability, but don't void down my back and tell me it's raining. I don't know or care why it happened, but it happened.

So yes Rangers fan's enjoy '94 redux. Of course there are minor changes, but the results will most likely be the same. Unless this Devils team finds their A game again.
You are spot on re: calls & non-calls.
 
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Lindy Ruff has a 0-4 record in Game 7. If that record goes to 0-5 he must be replaced.

I could make this long, talking about a lot of players, but will only talk about Nico Hischier. As simple as I can state this, this type of no-show from a captain, is grounds for replacement!

I would also can Ruff if Wood or Smith get inserted into the lineup.

It is interesting going back and reading Rangers fan's ***** about how lifeless their team came out in Game 6 at 1-0. This includes some of the NYR fan's, that kept quoting me, for a hot take in Game. Enjoy it, and leave me alone. I don't do that to anyone in this thread.

Simply put, even the Rangers broadcasters were stunned at some of the no calls. Breathe, home cooking like that will not happen for the Devils in Game 7. With such a discrepancy in calls, with multiple "fouls" going uncalled in front of the ref's, yes they put their palm down on the scale. Not the only factor, but a big enough factor to change the game Just for the fact Jack Hughes does not play on the penalty kill. Nothing changes the flow of a game like special teams.

The Devils especially defense, played horribly. That said, from the time the calls went heavily for the home team, the whole game changed. It is therefore impossible to know what would have happened, if it was called evenly for both teams. Give Miller credit, it certainly looked like he dropped his stick before contact. I always love when they give the late power plays after the game is decided. Gives plausible deniability, but don't void down my back and tell me it's raining. I don't know or care why it happened, but it happened.

So yes Rangers fan's enjoy '94 redux. Of course there are minor changes, but the results will most likely be the same. Unless this Devils team finds their A game again.

Wow. Need some cheese with that?
 

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My only problem with complaints about the officiating is people implying there is an agenda to it that favors certain teams.

Watch enough games around the whole league and you realize that everything to do with rule enforcement in hockey, from the on ice referees to the Department of Player Safety, is incompetent.

While your at it, reserve some blame for the players too, because given the chance to make rules and player safety a priority during CBA negotiations they instead fight for rights like being able to play in the Olympics.
 
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The NHL needs to rethink that tripping rule on Mercer. He makes the defensive play of his life and gets penalized. By letter of the law, you really can't stop a breakaway.

For giggles and laughs, change the rules so that a goalie can only play 2 periods + overtime. The scoring would be up 😆. YEAH OFFENSE!
Lets say at the point in my own zone If I lift your stick, take the puck but after i take the puck i whack your skates out which allows me to have a breakaway. No penalty?
 
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Lets say at the point in my own zone If I lift your stick, take the puck but after i take the puck i whack your skates out which allows me to have a breakaway. No penalty?
Go back to the old way, reward a defensive player when they get the puck, not the skates first. This way it is heavily weighed for the offensive player.

This way gives the offensive player a great advantage. Just like the easy to break sticks now, gives an intelligent player an advantage. Or the way a smart defenseman can often lollygag to the puck, and get the icing.

So I say for laughs, either what I suggested, or just say the 2nd period will be played with empty nets. If they are doing that for more offense, there you go!

It fits with the silly shootout IMO.
 

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Meanwhile,the pressure in Boston on the Bruins must be overwhelming.
A record breaking team cannot go out in the first round,especially in a long series.
 

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Meanwhile,the pressure in Boston on the Bruins must be overwhelming.
A record breaking team cannot go out in the first round,especially in a long series.
The way the league is going makes the Devils-Rangers game 7 even more meaningful.

If Boston gets knocked out, I think both the Devils or Rangers have a good chance to beat Carolina, Florida and Toronto.
 
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The way the league is going makes the Devils-Rangers game 7 even more meaningful.

If Boston gets knocked out, I think both the Devils or Rangers have a good chance to beat Carolina, Florida and Toronto.
Rangers toronto is the nhl’s dream conference final. That series could produce enough revenue to raise the cap more than what is anticipated
 
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Lets say at the point in my own zone If I lift your stick, take the puck but after i take the puck i whack your skates out which allows me to have a breakaway. No penalty?

This issue with that call was it was a CLEAR breakaway…why the power play and not a penalty shot?

That whole sequence was awful by the refs
 

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This issue with that call was it was a CLEAR breakaway…why the power play and not a penalty shot?

That whole sequence was awful by the refs

The rule used to be if the defender got the puck first, no penalty at all.

When the rule changed, it became (essentially)
get the player without touching puck first; penalty shot. If you got the puck THEN the player, then only a minor penalty is called.

I liked the old rule, because to make that play, hitting the puck first was a skill. Anyway, that is the rule as I understand it.
 
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This issue with that call was it was a CLEAR breakaway…why the power play and not a penalty shot?

That whole sequence was awful by the refs
Because its the rule. The trip came after the puck was knocked away. Its literally explained in the rulebook. Was a textbook penalty, literally met the definition.
 

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Wow Bruins going with Swayman over Ullmark in game 7. Lot to ask a guy who’s been mostly watching this series.
I came just to post this. Can't believe it. I get that the backup has been good but Ullmark is runaway Vezina winner and has had an outstanding year. Really interesting.
 
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I came just to post this. Can't believe it. I get that the backup has been good but Ullmark is runaway Vezina winner and has had an outstanding year. Really interesting.

Exactly why I said there should be no decision to make tomorrow.

You don’t start a goalie in a game 7 that hasn’t played in a week.
 
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Exactly why I said there should be no decision to make tomorrow.

You don’t start a goalie in a game 7 that hasn’t played in a week.
That's not the point at all really - it's going away from a guy who most will say has been the best goalie in the league this season.

But yes, Devils should start the kid.
 
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That's not the point at all really - it's going away from a guy who most will say has been the best goalie in the league this season.

But yes, Devils should start the kid.

Well…despite how it looked earlier…it’s working for the bruins..so I was wrong. Lol
 
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And the record setting Bruins go down in OT. Gotta imagine their coach is gonna have a lot of questions to answer about the goaltending decisions. Boston ain’t exactly a forgiving sports town.
 

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And the record setting Bruins go down in OT. Gotta imagine their coach is gonna have a lot of questions to answer about the goaltending decisions. Boston ain’t exactly a forgiving sports town.
What a game. And it's now a forever "what if" question in Boston.

It's still a strange move to me. I know both of their goalies have had good years, but when one is runaway Vezina winner, I just feel like you go with what got ya there.

End of the day, Florida played a hell of a game and Boston lost 4 games, 3 at home. But other than that Thackuk stop in OT, wasn't like Swayman was that great or anything.

And Thackuk is a monster of a player. Would trade anyone in NY and then some for him.
 

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What a game. And it's now a forever "what if" question in Boston.

It's still a strange move to me. I know both of their goalies have had good years, but when one is runaway Vezina winner, I just feel like you go with what got ya there.

End of the day, Florida played a hell of a game and Boston lost 4 games, 3 at home. But other than that Thackuk stop in OT, wasn't like Swayman was that great or anything.

And Thackuk is a monster of a player. Would trade anyone in NY and then some for him.
I agree. Gotta play Ullmark there — as you say the presumptive Vezina winner. He did have a bonehead puck misplay in game 6 that led to Florida’s win, but really seems like a harsh punishment to pull him given the body of work in such an incredible regular season.

As a neutral observer, hell of a hockey game and hell of a series. Hats off to Florida.
 

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Bruins down in round 1 as predicted before the playoffs. Time for another prediction.

Sentimental favors Toronto, will be Eastern Conference Champions. Will not officially post this yet, but I think this is Maple. Leafs year. Just a feeling, 1993 was a long time ago. Let's have fun watching this play out.

Best 2 words in sports Game 7.
 

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Florida was much more aggressive / free wheeling squad. They never gave up and they deserved to win !

Bruins played scared / passive ! That's what happens when you had no adversity during the year !

I don't think they were mentally or physically prepared for such a tough series !

McElroy on Bruins was horrid !
 

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I don't see any other NHL thread, so figured I'd post about how horrible the Bruins played the past few games. Florida just wanted it more and Boston often wouldn't do the little sacrifices required to win: case in point was the OT winner for FL, where the Bruin defenseman needed to drop down and take the hit to block the shot, but didn't. It's game 7 OT for f***sake! And I just hate seeing warm weather teams beating original 6 or Canadian teams. Best regular season record in history? Not worth much, I guess.

Somewhat similar with the Avs losing to Seattle, who are just playing with higher energy than the defending chapms and are a few minutes away from winning it (anything can happen still and both these game 7's have been on home ice for Boston and Colorado.
 

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I don't see any other NHL thread, so figured I'd post about how horrible the Bruins played the past few games. Florida just wanted it more and Boston often wouldn't do the little sacrifices required to win: case in point was the OT winner for FL, where the Bruin defenseman needed to drop down and take the hit to block the shot, but didn't. It's game 7 OT for f***sake! And I just hate seeing warm weather teams beating original 6 or Canadian teams. Best regular season record in history? Not worth much, I guess.

Somewhat similar with the Avs losing to Seattle, who are just playing with higher energy than the defending chapms and are a few minutes away from winning it (anything can happen still and both these game 7's have been on home ice for Boston and Colorado.
AVS are without too many players…just a tough year for injuries.
 
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