OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders
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IF you want bridge and tunnelers to come to the game you need to have a matinee.
How 'bout Marty Muth*****g Brodeur?
Trying to be completely fair and non-biased here, that Patrick Roy guy wasn't completely terrible. I don't know if we are allowed to have 2 'generational talent' goalies at the same time....that is a question for the committee.
Also trying (and failing) to be completely fair and non-biased...no fing way Messier is making the list
.I once hung out with Rod Gilbert (we got **** drunk) and he said the same thing. In fact he was empathic about it.
'Bridge and tunnelers'. Is this not a common phrase? We used to use it all the time. It's the Jersey folks coming in to Manhattan for a day trip.
I see it as far less congested today/tonight at any time than your average weekday.
No Giants traffic.
It basically implies that someone has talent that you only see very 20-30 years, but I don’t restrict it to “overall best player” though.
Someone brought up Bossy earlier, and I think that is a great example. There were better players in his era, but he was absolutely a generational talent at scoring goals (and I say that as a Ranger fan). Ovechkin is another good example you listed.
Yes, and the Kraken picked him up and he is doing very well for them (5 goals and 2 assists in 8 games). Evidently Seattle came after the Rangers in the waiver order so they passed.
He might be my number 2 All time. Which means he’s hockey royalty. His biggest marvel, to me was his staying power. The guy never got hurt, was ridiculously consistently great, and played a legendary number of minutes.
I just think Hasek was more talented. I really didn’t have goalies on my list, Hasek was just an afterthought. But, yeah, I should have listed MB. He deserves to be mentioned as well.
Goalies are funny. For a few years, Billy Smith was absolute PO MONEY. And in real life, he looked like a plumber, haha. Dryden had an insane run (4 cups and 4 Vezinas, all in a row), but way too short a career. Would I have picked those guys, in their prime, in a SCF series over MB? Maybe. For their entire career, nope.
Bingo, more remedial weight training is a must. He falls too much for my liking.Well I said there is the possibility of that happening.
A little more filling out along with staying healthy will do a lot for that.
I agree. I only added that because some talking heads insisted he wouldn't be at that level.
That line has been poor at 5v5, long before they put Kravstov on it. Trochek and Panarin have no chemistry. Kravstov’s defensive numbers are outstanding, but Trochek should be the goal scorer on the line and he is really slumping lately.
I have read from a few supposed insiders that Panarin has expressed that he is not comfortable with Chytil as his center. I think it is long past time to tell him “tough ****”. In the small amount of time Chytil and Panarin have been on the ice together they have been productive, and Chytil is wasted on the 3rd line between Goodrow and Vesey.
If nothing changes by the time Kreider and Gauthier come back, the lines should be:
Kreider/Mika/Kakko
Panarin/Chytil/Kravstov
Laf/Trochek/Gauthier
Goodrow/Brodzinski/Vesey
I’d send Laf down to Hartford before I’d put him on the 4th line, because at least he would get ice time to work on things in the AHL.
That train might have moved on, I think he would have be exposed on waivers to send him down, he would surely get snapped up.
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As I have mentioned a few times in this thread, he has had an awful year, but through the playoffs last year his even strength production was progressing nicely compared to most first overall picks.
The Junior tape I have seen of him, he wasn’t dominating because of physical skills like skating or a great shot. He was more like a Fox, where he appeared to have better vision of the game than the guys he was playing with and against.
I don’t see any of that now.
I was only 10 at the time and I remember that series happening, but not a lot of details like I do (for example) of the controversial 72 Olympics basketball final.
Did it get a lot of coverage in the US?
I have seen a couple of great documentaries and read a book on it. Combining that series with the games when the Russians came over around 1975 to play NHL teams and it is kind of embarrassing the impact that some players gooning it up had on being competitive with the Russians.
Every game was on TV Krup.
I was 15, a freshman and completely entrenched in my high school hockey, travel select, and going to hockey school for the 2nd half of every summer.
Espo won that series for us by himself, Orr was hurt…Paul Henderson right place right time
Best of 8. Canada took Russians lightly. Canada went up 2-0 in first five minutes of game 1. Thought series would be a joke. Think Russia led series 2-1-1 after first 4 games in Canada. Think it was 3-1-1 Russia after game 5 and Canada won last 3 games with Paul Henderson of Leafs scoring winning goal with less than a minute to go in game 8. How’s my memory? Lol.
If Kreider's absence is his audition, I think we have our answers about his future here.
He may still end up being a good player, but probably not with the Rangers, and, in my opinion, his draft projection was a huge miss.
At this point I would be fine with a Lafreniere trade. If he doesn’t play better for a new team at least we got something for him. If he did recover to play significantly better than he is on the Rangers it might force them to face what seems pretty obvious. The organization for decades has sucked at developing forward prospects.
Notable about Lafreniere’s draft projection is that he was the obvious number one a year before the draft, then things shut down so there wasn’t the year where scouts started noticing his flaws . Compare that to Shane Wright, who was also the consensus number one a year before his draft, then ended up going fourth after scouts didn’t like his predraft year as much.
I'd be fine with moving Laf if it's a hockey trade. I hate deadline rentals and wouldn't want to move him (or really any kid) for a rental.
I’d trade him for a rental yesterday Cheese.
You’re not losing a thing
Let’s see what he does again tonight, I’m not talking about getting his stick on a loose puck or a deflection, I’m talking make a play..
Kratsov invisible in the offensive zone also
Great come from behind win by the Devils. Tied it up with 9 seconds left, won in a shootout.
In overtime Tatar proved to be stronger than he looks
. Always nice to steal one.
In overtime Tatar proved to be stronger than he looks
. Always nice to steal one.Zap, that would be just bad asset management. You know there are always teams who think they might be able to get more out of a player. Lafreniere would have decent trade value. Hell, the Canadians would probably still jump at the chance to get him.
The Rangers shouldn’t be going nuts with rentals this year. Third pair LD and some bottom six depth.