I enjoy talking hockey on here with you and the rest of the contributers in this thread.
I’m going to ignore this post by you and make believe it didn’t happen.
I definitely look forward to continuing our discussions, they’re fun
OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders
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I’m going to ignore this post by you and make believe it didn’t happen.
I definitely look forward to continuing our discussions, they’re fun
He’s not done for the year (as you told us) as he may return as soon as tomorrow or next week.
Your bird lost its wings
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Agreed, but to quote Kenny D. " it takes defensemen a few years to get acclimated", so he needs a little more time. I think he will eventually be a very good 3rd pair guy.
OK. I will admit if he was not so big and
I wouldn't be so high on him. Reportedly he has a mean streak too.Which we haven’t seen yet. He’s a grenade handlerOK. I will admit if he was not so big and
If I came across as nastier than I intended, I apologize. I just think you are letting how the Rangers handle their roster have too much impact on how good some of these young players appear.
Because they chose to short circuit the rebuild with Panarin and others, the young Rangers are blocked from significant power play time, and that is not common in the league. Power play points are what makes every player’s production look good.
There wouldn’t be so much talk about Meier if people thought of him only having 30 points right now , but that’s all he has without the power play. Cut his minutes to the less than 14 Chytil gets and his production wouldn’t be much different than Chytil’s either.
Meier is really good, and will help anyone who gets him, but I don’t want the Rangers to pay a ton get a point per game RW so soon after they gave away a point per game RW for a horrible return, and especially to “go for it” in a year where Shesty isn’t playing well enough to carry them like he did last year.
Well Krup,
To your point, Chytil centering Laf and Goodrow it seems tonight.
Not much there to create offense.
You can argue Vecey has more offensive skills than Goody.
Either way, Chytil goals will be about individual effort or set up by a defenseman
To your point, Chytil centering Laf and Goodrow it seems tonight.
Not much there to create offense.
You can argue Vecey has more offensive skills than Goody.
Either way, Chytil goals will be about individual effort or set up by a defenseman
Boston made the Islander power play look bad last night. The Ranger pp1 has become so predictable teams let them keep possession because they know if they stop the Zibanejad one timer the Rangers are out of ideas.
It would be nice if we had a coach who knew how to make adjustments beyond mixing up line combinations.
Gallant should fired during the second intermission for refusing to take advantage of home ice by matching lines.
The Rangers 3rd line has a good shift, keeps possession CC against the Bruins 1st line for a while until a Bruins’ icing. So faced with a gassed Bruins team, down 2-0 and really needing a goal, Gallant sends out the 4th line.
The only moves Gallant makes as a coach is incessantly mixing up the lines, playing veteran AHL level players over much higher ceiling young players, and punishing young players for the same mistakes his favorites make over and over.
The Rangers 3rd line has a good shift, keeps possession CC against the Bruins 1st line for a while until a Bruins’ icing. So faced with a gassed Bruins team, down 2-0 and really needing a goal, Gallant sends out the 4th line.
The only moves Gallant makes as a coach is incessantly mixing up the lines, playing veteran AHL level players over much higher ceiling young players, and punishing young players for the same mistakes his favorites make over and over.
My God does Blackwood blow.........you got to stop that OT goal.
Gutsy effort nonetheless by the team, got a point at the end. Good to see Bastian back in the lineup.
Gutsy effort nonetheless by the team, got a point at the end. Good to see Bastian back in the lineup.
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Huge amount of turnovers as well. He can’t get it through his head that teams expect him to try that cross ice pass though 2-3 defenders and usually stop it easily now.
I would be at least asking whether he still wants to play in Florida. I know he still has a lot of production, but his overall numbers are starting to regress in the last two seasons and Florida may be desperate because they have a big fight just to make the playoffs.
He’s got way to much left in him in my opinion.
So gifted and incredibly strong on the puck for his size.
Kreider for all his intangibles, strong shot, size and speed…has a very low hockey IQ and borders on being soft on the puck…strong on his skates in front of the net, but his physicality level along the walls is embarrassing for his size
No doubt Panarin is still really good, but that is why you could trade him (only if he wanted to go with his NMC of course). I would be fine with either one going (I wanted Kreider traded instead of resigned the first time).
You would get in return the asset capital to acquire Meier, and have the cap space to keep him.
The team would be much more balanced, and since Meier is only 26 he fits much better with what should be the real timeline of the team.
The problem with trading Kreider is that the team he might want to waive his NMC to go to (Boston) probably doesn’t want him for the reasons you mentioned concerning his play.
An undeserved point but you take ‘em
Blackwood held them in it when they were severely outplayed for long stretches
Sure the overtime goal allowed was soft but the shooter is a goal scorer and he had a good look
2nd straight game the Devils scored with the extra attacker.
Blackwood held them in it when they were severely outplayed for long stretches
Sure the overtime goal allowed was soft but the shooter is a goal scorer and he had a good look
2nd straight game the Devils scored with the extra attacker.
Even with a disappointing effort we took 9 of 10 points. Deserved to lose as the team looked tired. That said, don't forget about "home cooking", go back and look, then count how many seconds elapsed between Blackwood getting run over and then the GW goal. Hint it is not long. I'm not saying it is a penalty, but I would have liked the game to be stopped there for a minute i.e. a whistle.
If it is a good play now, the NJD should emulate it in any future OT. It is either that or the zebras missed it the way they earlier missed the baseball swing that got rid of Bratt's stick on a rush. Of course they are human and prone to mistakes.
Dude come on. It was 16 seconds between the time Blackwood got up and the shot going on. That didn't interfere with his ability to make a save whatsoever, there's nothing in the rules that say play is blown dead for incidental contact with a goalie. If that were the case, there would be a lot more stoppages and for no reason. Now if the goal were scored before he was able to get back up and be ready to make a save it would be disallowed, but that is not at all what happened here.
Okay, then it should become strategy! The Devils should also teach their goalies to knock the net off it's moorings in any type of similar situation. The camera didn't catch the whole thing, but Blackwood was completely down with a Kracken player on top of him. I have seen a whistle for much less. That is all I'm saying because of the hate coming Blackwood's way.
More over remember I said they played tired and deserved to lose. I think maybe this leads them to buckle down and not get behind as often early. I was not knocking your beloved ref's. We all make mistakes, I wouldn't want robots.
I'd be fine moving Panarin. I don't know what, if anything, happened to him last year but he has been no where close to the guy that first signed here. He's far too predictable and is no where near what he needs to be for his cap hit.
Kreider is tougher one. I also wanted to trade him, but last year he showed you what he's capable of when it comes together. He's always been incredibly streaky and inconsistent - his size, speed and hands should put him at 40 goals annually - but never does. His number is more manageable and is a huge leadership guy (could be viewed good or bad) in the room.
I would prefer moving Panarin because he would have more value and we could free up a lot more cap (even if we had to retain a little).
I agree Kreider appears to offer more intangibles, and I would be okay with just he and Mika growing old together while the rest of the team was much younger. Also, Kreider signed a relatively team friendly deal while Panarin bled every penny out of the Rangers.
Krup
I agree with Brooks’s newest article in the Post.
Chytil was by far our best center on the ice last night against a strong team.
It’s time for him to replace Trochek on the second line and see what he can do.
To bad if Bread doesn’t like it, it’s not his decision
I agree with Brooks’s newest article in the Post.
Chytil was by far our best center on the ice last night against a strong team.
It’s time for him to replace Trochek on the second line and see what he can do.
To bad if Bread doesn’t like it, it’s not his decision
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I couldn’t agree with that move more. I don’t get Panarin’s issue with Chytil, because in the short times they have been on the ice together they have looked good. He and Trochek just haven’t clicked.
I would also put Kravstov back on the right of that line, because he has looked good with Chytil and, despite what Gallant thinks, his defensive numbers are as good as Vesey’s.
Not publicly, but I have read on a few different sites from a few different sources who claim to be insiders that Panarin does not feel their games are a fit and preferred Strome and now Trochek (I never read that he had any personal issue with Chytil).
At what point do we finally create separate devils and rangers threads ??
He’d still play with one hand on his stick, hit no one along the walls and have a low hockey IQ…
I’m not sure he’d fit in given the commitment to physicality the Bruins demand.
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It was extremely obvious to anyone who isn't looking for a reason to complain that Bjorkstrand tripped over Bratt's skate and inadvertently slid into Blackwood as a result. That isn't a whistle unless the puck goes into the net. Both of your suggestions are penalties. Your frequent whining about the refs is getting old, the only thing that possibly could have been blown on that play was maybe a soft tripping call on Bratt. None of the Devils including Blackwood himself, or the coaching staff took issue with the play continuing. Nice subtle move by Burakovsky to pull the puck towards his body and change the angle of the shot, but Blackwood probably should still make that save, and Bratt probably gave him too much space that allowed him to get that shot off clean.
That's the other problem with Panarin. When you're an $11M / year player, you should be producing with Dan Boyle as your center.
I know that was a thing with Jagr, but Panarin ain't Jagr.
For you Rangers fans. How many of you remember "Leapin Lou" Fortinato, Andy Bathgate, Dean Prentice, Larry Popein, Harry "the Horse" Howell, or Gump Worsley. As a boy in Brooklyn used to listen to these guys & the Rangers on the radio. Devils fan now after watching the River Rats while living in Albany & now in NJ.
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