OT: Jets giving a tryout to Matt Araiza

MADHAT1

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Glad the truth came out, but he was harmed and deserves to be reimbursed for lost wages along with this shot to return
 

Doctor Worm

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Glad the truth came out, but he was harmed and deserves to be reimbursed for lost wages along with this shot to return
Reimbursed by whom? If he had a nonguaranteed contract, as the large majority of NFL players do, he is out of luck.
 
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ch414

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Separate and apart. Buffalo and the NFL has nothing to do with it.
I don't understand the reply. I was only looking for information as to whether Korzak has signed a contract. Sorry if this confused you. Nothing to do with Buffalo or Araiza. Has Adam Korzak signed with any team?
 

Doctor Worm

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I don't understand the reply. I was only looking for information as to whether Korzak has signed a contract. Sorry if this confused you. Nothing to do with Buffalo or Araiza. Has Adam Korzak signed with any team?
Adam Korsak has signed with the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the CFL.
 

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I was listening to an interview with his agent, and he said Matt is not going to go after the girl in a civil suit and holds nothing against her. The entire lawsuit was devised by a lawyer that decided to drag Matt into it for a quick money grab. The agent said that Matt plans to go after the lawyer with a civil suit.
 

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I was listening to an interview with his agent, and he said Matt is not going to go after the girl in a civil suit and holds nothing against her. The entire lawsuit was devised by a lawyer that decided to drag Matt into it for a quick money grab. The agent said that Matt plans to go after the lawyer with a civil suit.

I'm sure the girl is judgement proof. Presumably the attorney is not.
 

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I was listening to an interview with his agent, and he said Matt is not going to go after the girl in a civil suit and holds nothing against her. The entire lawsuit was devised by a lawyer that decided to drag Matt into it for a quick money grab. The agent said that Matt plans to go after the lawyer with a civil suit.
This was on Carton and Roberts yesterday? I listened to some of it as well.
I'm sure the girl is judgement proof. Presumably the attorney is not.
One of the agents big issue was the salacious language used by the attorney in the suit. Not sure if that holds water in court or not.
 

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Interesting because Araiza is still under civil suit. So I guess they are countersuing.

Araiza has only been exonerated in the sense that no criminal charges are being filed. Which I guess is exoneration enough.
 

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Interesting because Araiza is still under civil suit. So I guess they are countersuing.

Araiza has only been exonerated in the sense that no criminal charges are being filed. Which I guess is exoneration enough.
I think there are video's out there.
 

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Forget the "shot" just sign him. For the NFL he is perfect.. AND.. he has a scared-straight type horror story to share in the lockerroom.. weird thing.. I thought his name was Azaria... for years now.
 

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I have to admit .. I remember hearing about Araiza last year, when this happened. And, then nothing. It's sort of like - when it's a hot news story, it's everywhere. And, when it fizzles out, you never hear, "And - regarding that story we reported last month, no charges are being filed," etc.
 

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I have to admit .. I remember hearing about Araiza last year, when this happened. And, then nothing. It's sort of like - when it's a hot news story, it's everywhere. And, when it fizzles out, you never hear, "And - regarding that story we reported last month, no charges are being filed," etc.

And after all that publicity, as has been said before, where does he go to get his reputation back? His exoneration hasn't been ignored, but has received a much lower level of coverage.
 
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And after all that publicity, as has been said before, where does he go to get his reputation back? His exoneration hasn't been ignored, but has received a much lower level of coverage.
He gets it back playing in the league.
 

MADHAT1

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Reimbursed by whom? If he had a nonguaranteed contract, as the large majority of NFL players do, he is out of luck.
He was cut by the Bills over the unfounded allegations .
Let the Bills show it was his camp performance that caused them to drop him'
What the Bill GM said looks like it wasn't football related :
“We don’t know all the facts, and that’s what makes it hard, but at this time we think it is the best move for everyone to move on from Matt and let him take care of this situation,” Brandon Beane, the team’s general manager, said in a news conference on Saturday night after a team practice.

Beane said that the team learned about the accusations in late July, about three months after Araiza was drafted. “We tried to be thorough and thoughtful and not rush to judgment,” he said. “It’s not easy.”
“We just decided that the most important thing is this is not about football, it’s about letting Matt go handle this,” Beane added.

What Araiza has against him is there was reasonable belief he had consensual sex with the accuser and she might have been 17 in a state where 18 is the legal age that people having consensual sex applies.
Also the girl was drunk is another claim about the incident, but since he wasn't charged the Bills droped him for being accused and the NFL teams colluded to keep him from getting a chance to earn a roster spot until now,
Practice player salary might be deserved because the Bills and the league decided to keep him from earning a job with an NFL team,
Making him guilty in their eyes without even being charged with a crime.
 
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He was cut by the Bills over the unfounded allegations .
Let the Bills show it was his camp performance that caused them to drop him'
What the Bill GM said looks like it wasn't football related :
“We don’t know all the facts, and that’s what makes it hard, but at this time we think it is the best move for everyone to move on from Matt and let him take care of this situation,” Brandon Beane, the team’s general manager, said in a news conference on Saturday night after a team practice.

Beane said that the team learned about the accusations in late July, about three months after Araiza was drafted. “We tried to be thorough and thoughtful and not rush to judgment,” he said. “It’s not easy.”
“We just decided that the most important thing is this is not about football, it’s about letting Matt go handle this,” Beane added.

What Araiza has against him is there was reasonable belief he had consensual sex with the accuser and she might have been 17 in a state where 18 is the legal age that people having consensual sex applies.
Also the girl was drunk is another claim about the incident, but since he wasn't charged the Bills droped him for being accused and the NFL teams colluded to keep him from getting a chance to earn a roster spot until now,
Practice player salary might be deserved because the Bills and the league decided to keep him from earning a job with an NFL team,
Making him guilty in their eyes without even being charged with a crime.
IMO Araiza has no case. If he had a nonguaranteed contract, as I suspect he did, that's essentially employment at will. All the Bills would have to show is that his termination was not due to his race, religion, national origin etc.

There appears to be no grounds for compensation on the basis of slander. The Bills neither stated not implied that he was guilty. They basically said that in light of the allegations, it would be best for all parties to move on.

I doubt there was collusion. More like 32 teams independently drawing the same conclusion - that no punter on earth was worth the baggage.
 

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IMO Araiza has no case. If he had a nonguaranteed contract, as I suspect he did, that's essentially employment at will. All the Bills would have to show is that his termination was not due to his race, religion, national origin etc.

There appears to be no grounds for compensation on the basis of slander. The Bills neither stated not implied that he was guilty. They basically said that in light of the allegations, it would be best for all parties to move on.

I doubt there was collusion. More like 32 teams independently drawing the same conclusion - that no punter on earth was worth the baggage.

No case against the Bills or the NFL. That doesn't preclude libel or slander against others.
 
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MADHAT1

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IMO Araiza has no case. If he had a nonguaranteed contract, as I suspect he did, that's essentially employment at will. All the Bills would have to show is that his termination was not due to his race, religion, national origin etc.

There appears to be no grounds for compensation on the basis of slander. The Bills neither stated not implied that he was guilty. They basically said that in light of the allegations, it would be best for all parties to move on.

I doubt there was collusion. More like 32 teams independently drawing the same conclusion - that no punter on earth was worth the baggage.
What you say sounds reasonable , but 32 teams reaching same conclusion is hard to think happened.
I feel the NFL advised teams the league might face a backlash from fans if they brought him in for a tryout and each team " independently" decided not to give him a shot
But you're in saying no compensation because his contract wasn't guaranteed and they could drop him for any reason.
I'm just saying it wasn't based on his talent, it was the trouble he was in that caused him to be dumped and no other team give him a tryout for the same reason he was dumped.
 

Jtung230

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Surprised that Dallas hasn’t signed him. Maybe the stupid scoreboard means they need bad punters.