What a waste of two and a half hours. I thought nothing could ever top The Shape of Water as the worst Best Picture Winner, but I was wrong.
OT: Just watched Everything Everywhere All At Once
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Rocky was good, maybe not best picture material, but good entertainment One of the worst Best Picture snubs ever: Shakesepeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan in 1998
Nope.
You're not old enough to have seen it first run in the theater in '79 or whatever it was. It's awful. Stallone is barely functional. You can't understand half of what he's saying. The dialog is... well, it's like it was written by the late 70s version of Chat GTP. Carl Weathers was straight-up the best part of that movie. And it was fun watching Burgess Meredith deliver his dialog and imagining him as The Penguin. But other than that... awful.
I watched this week. I thought it was fine. Maybe you need to be a parent to appreciate it ?
How could you not know that the film was released in 1976? There was a lot in the movie with Bicentennial themes. Plus, Creed wanted to give a local boxer a chance in the City of Brotherly Love in the nation's bicentennial year.
That movie was so awesome. My guess is that your mind was somewhere else that day in 76.
Rocky was a good movie
The Rocky theme song put the movie over the top
This years “best picture “ winner was crappy, it won because it was creative, not good
I tried twice to watch it and never made it all the way through
I tried once and I was planning to try again. I guess I won't.
I feel like watching Rocky again.
I think it’s a love or hate movie. Everyone I know who watched it either loved it or hated it. I went into it thinking I wouldn’t like it but I ended up loving it.
The Rocky narrative with the girlfriend was kind of bland but the direction and editing were amazing (both won Oscars). Right from opening there is the huge ROCKY name moving across screen like GWTW and then a boxing scene with Jesus mural up on the wall
Great novels rarely make great movies because a movie has to "show" a story and not just tell it (writing "on the nose" is a major sin in screenwriting). Rocky has so many little things telling about the character and story.
The scene with the loan shark Gazzo in the Cadillac (watch how Rocky grabs his pay with some desperation) was great example. Gazzo's driver hates Rocky and Gazzo tells Rocky to ignore him because his prostate is acting-up. Gazzo and Rocky get out of the car to talk, and Gazzo berates Rocky for not breaking a guys thumb for paying partial. While Gazzo is yelling he has to take a hit off his asthma inhaler. That one bit "show"s the characters. Rocky the strong brute lets debtor off a little light but the cruel bosses who want violence are weak. Rocky is not just a violent thug. Of course all this takes place with grim Philly locations that also have beautiful lighting.
At home Rock loves his pet fish and turtles and he has daggers stuck in walls to hang his hat and coat. Rocky is a simpleton but all these little things speak about him in subtle ways. Scenes like the punching of beef sides were memorable and were taken from Joe Frazier stories about working in a slaughter house.
The other Rocky pics and Rambo were awful but Rocky direction and construction were very well done. Plus the other Best Picture Oscars noms (Network, All the President's Men, Taxi Driver) were typical of bleak 70s (Vietnam only ended in 75). Rocky broke through the bleak the way Secretariat did a couple years earlier. Stallone himself was broke when he wrote story and refused demand not to star in it. Its not a movie I can watch a lot but when I see scenes I always see something else
"telling" the story .
I wouldn't even bother with "Everything Everywhere All At Once" because as soon as it won I knew there must be a thread of spectral chromatic transmogrification in the story and there is.
Rocky was a good movie, but I think its uplifting story in a time people were for the first time feeling really ground down by the system and pessimistic (came out a few years after the end of the Vietnam War, Nixon’s resignation, in a really bad economy), won it praise beyond its quality.
It's the same reason why the real-life version, 1980 Olympic Hockey team, still resonates to this day.
The Creed trilogy is worth watching too if you are a Rocky fan
It is 1000% weird but IMO unique in how it went from point A to Z and the crazy path it took to get there. For me, it was completely unexpected from where it started to the message and how it ended. I also found some parts quite funny.
Plus I hate multiverse kind of plots and it’s one reason I stopped watching most marvel movies unless I’m forced lol. I thought this movie used the multiverse in a different way to help the story and message move along and I wasn’t bothered by its use.
And why the Bayonne Bleeder still has a place in peoples‘ hearts.
This montage alone should have won this picture an Oscar.
You have to give credit to Stallone
There are several "actors" who have had hit movies that have generated sequels with more than one character and
he was able to have the Rocky and Rambo series, so we give him credit there
The fact that we now have Creed still going is admirable
There are several "actors" who have had hit movies that have generated sequels with more than one character and
he was able to have the Rocky and Rambo series, so we give him credit there
The fact that we now have Creed still going is admirable
As I have said, I like offbeat movies, science fiction, time travel etc
This was just too bizarre
I do give it full credit for originality, creativity, special effects and costume
I just could not make it through
Rocky was awful. Raging Bull was great. There are audiences for both. EEAAO is an acquired taste.
I’m curious whether to know whether people who liked or hated it saw it in the theater or at home. Based on what I’ve read and heard from friends who have seen it, it’s one of those “you have to see it in a theater” films
Wait what?
Rocky is one my list of near perfect movies. Who doesn't love Rocky?
I always come back to what Roger Ebert said in his original review for the Sun Times
"What makes the movie extraordinary is that it doesn't try to surprise us with an original plot, with twists and complications; it wants to involve us on an elemental, a sometimes savage, level. It's about heroism and realizing your potential, about taking your best shot and sticking by your girl. It sounds not only clichéd but corny -- and yet it's not, not a bit, because it really does work on those levels. It involves us emotionally, it makes us commit ourselves: We find, maybe to our surprise after remaining detached during so many movies, that this time we care."
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Maybe surprising to you, but a good number of people don't care for the film.
All I can think when someone says "Rocky was awful" is that they've never actually seen Rocky.
Thought Banshees of Inisherin and Aftersun were better than Everything Everywhere, but it was far from a terrible movie. If folks haven’t seen it, the writers’ previous movie Swiss Army Man is pretty absurd and fun.
Very few.
Rambo First Blood was great entertaining also
All the Rambo movies are ****.
You can be entertained by Stallone playing Gravy Seal, but that doesn't mean it's a good movie.
You always come back to ~ 50 year old quote from a dead movie critic? Wierd.
Thanks. As one of those that loved Everything Everywhere All at Once - and rooted hard in the Oscars - I'll definitely check out Swiss Army Man. Dano usually plays offbeat very well, so it sounds like great casting right from the jump.
If Rotten Tomatoes is any guide, both Rocky and First Blood were considered "good" by a lot of people, Rocky, 92% by critics/69% by Audience, and First Blood/Rambo, 86% by critics and 85% for audience.
What is a bit surprising is that 69% for Rocky is lower than I expected, particularly when compared to Rambo.
But as with music, that which is popular may not be considered "good" by a lot of of people.
What is a bit surprising is that 69% for Rocky is lower than I expected, particularly when compared to Rambo.
But as with music, that which is popular may not be considered "good" by a lot of of people.
Is it that weird for a nearly 50 year old movie? Like them or not (I was not too fond of them), but Siskel and Ebert were the go to movie reviewers of their time. Siskel had issues with the characters of Paulie and Adrian.
Tried it twice, lost whatever plot there was and said, I don't care anymore and turned it off. I found Buckaroo Banzai easier to follow. I don't find many critic rave review movies good any longer. I'm looking for plot and characters, they're going for a social agenda.
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