OT: Michael Oher petitioned a court with allegations that Tuohy Family never adopted him

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They couldn’t adopt him. He was an adult but they still had his best interest at heart(it seems). Looks like a case of the tuohys still tried and he didn’t listen. It’s looking like he’s out of money.
Why do you think they had his best interest at heart? They signed the paper when he was 18.
 

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Why do you think they had his best interest at heart? They signed the paper when he was 18.
To help an idiot kid who doesn’t know how to traverse what was coming. I was an idiot at 18 like most. They wanted to give him parental guidance. It’s easier with guardianship. Sounds like he needed more not less. As soon as I saw he wrote yet another book I got skeptical. He’s broke.
 
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To help an idiot kid who doesn’t know how to traverse what was coming. I was an idiot at 18 like most. They wanted to give him parental guidance. It’s easier with guardianship. Sounds like he needed more not less. As soon as I saw he wrote yet another book I got skeptical. He’s broke.
Did your parents ask you to sign a conservatorship?
 

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Did your parents ask you to sign a conservatorship?
Why would they? I get what you are getting at but there is zero indication they took advantage of it. They could’ve taken over his whole life financially but they didn’t. What they did do as I explained above is position themselves to help him. It would’ve been harder to do those “parental guardian” things without it. They wouldn’t be allowed in some of those rooms parents or guardians typically are involved in. What’s looking like happened is he went broke and now thinks he’s owed some large sum of money that never existed. I’ll rest on that.
 

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Why would they? I get what you are getting at but there is zero indication they took advantage of it. They could’ve taken over his whole life financially but they didn’t. What they did do as I explained above is position themselves to help him. It would’ve been harder to do those “parental guardian” things without it. They wouldn’t be allowed in some of those rooms parents or guardians typically are involved in. What’s looking like happened is he went broke and now thinks he’s owed some large sum of money that never existed. I’ll rest on that.
Sorry, everything you are saying is your opinion. You have no facts. We will soon find out the truth.
 

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They couldn’t adopt him. He was an adult but they still had his best interest at heart(it seems). Looks like a case of the tuohys still tried and he didn’t listen. It’s looking like he’s out of money.
Tennessee law allows adult adoption
from a quick google:
>The law states, “When petitioner seeks to adopt a person who is eighteen years of age or older, only the sworn, written consent of the person sought to be adopted shall be required and no order of reference or any home studies need be issued." Tennessee Code Annotated §36-1-117(j)(1).<
 
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Tennessee law allows adult adoption
from a quick google:
>The law states, “When petitioner seeks to adopt a person who is eighteen years of age or older, only the sworn, written consent of the person sought to be adopted shall be required and no order of reference or any home studies need be issued." Tennessee Code Annotated §36-1-117(j)(1).<
Pretty sure that wasn’t the case back then. I believe the law was changed after. The reason they did it was because the tuoheys were alums of Mississippi and it would be an infraction if they weren’t in a guardianship role. I know that looks bad too. Anyway. All this will come out or be settled out of court. May never get the true story.
 
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The Touhy lawyer issued a statement that makes Oher look like a greedy pig. I can't wait for the sequel, "Blind Sided for Cash."
 
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To help an idiot kid who doesn’t know how to traverse what was coming. I was an idiot at 18 like most. They wanted to give him parental guidance. It’s easier with guardianship. Sounds like he needed more not less. As soon as I saw he wrote yet another book I got skeptical. He’s broke.
Agreed.. think of all the work that was required to manage his finances and life. Do you think he did it?

About the money.. a biological son recently said..

"..I can speak to that — I’ve made like $60, $70 grand over the course of the last four or five years.”

That's like $12,000 a year.. for each member of the family including Michael.. if what I read earlier is true.. that he began refusing to cash teh check so they deposited them in an escrow account for him.. not bad.. but not enough to blow up your life. I bet the movie will pay some more residuals with increased playtime over this controversy.

What.. does Oher want it all? Al the movie residuals? All their lives were exposed in that movie... not just Michael's. And the story was mainly about the Family AND Michael. It wasn't the Michael Oher story featuring some white family. The main character was the Mom.
 
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The whole thing just seems fishy on both sides. A part of me understands the guardianship if they were not allowed to adopt him but he was going off to college and shortly after, making huge financial decisions.
What I don’t understand is why or if they may have told him he was adopted or why the guardianship lasted so long.
And which side is just straight up lying. Looks like this is one that has to play out before you can have an opinion at all.
It does create great discussion but it is obvious, not a single one of us has any clue to the real story.
 
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I think that it is obvious that the Tuohy's wanted Oher to play football at Ole Miss. Given that Mr. Tuohy was a booster, they had to be careful not to violate any rules. This likely led to them choosing what they did as far as adopting/not adopting. Oher rec'd guidance and family support during a crucial period of time in his life, and Mr. Tuohy got pleasure from watching him star at his preferred university. Win/win, correct? But let the facts come out.
 
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It’s getting interesting.​

‘Blind Side’ Tuohy Family Accuses Michael Oher of $15 Million ‘Shakedown’ Before Lawsuit​

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/20...-oher-of-15-million-shakedown-before-lawsuit/

I saw this. Kind of sad all around that the family is now airing this publicly. They movie/story was a real good feel good type of narrative but to see it end like this, squabbling over money, etc.......... just sad.

Hope it gets settled quickly and just disppears.
 

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Pretty sure that wasn’t the case back then. I believe the law was changed after. The reason they did it was because the tuoheys were alums of Mississippi and it would be an infraction if they weren’t in a guardianship role. I know that looks bad too. Anyway. All this will come out or be settled out of court. May never get the true story.
"pretty sure" sounds like an opinion not based on fact but just being said to question a fact posted.
Your claiming players can't/ couldn't go to a college because someone was an alumni and influenced them to go there unless they are their guardians.
Sounds like a lot of HS players wouldn't have gone to the colleges people in their lives, but not family or guardians, steered them to if what you are saying is/was the case.
 

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The whole thing just seems fishy on both sides. A part of me understands the guardianship if they were not allowed to adopt him but he was going off to college and shortly after, making huge financial decisions.
What I don’t understand is why or if they may have told him he was adopted or why the guardianship lasted so long.
And which side is just straight up lying. Looks like this is one that has to play out before you can have an opinion at all.
It does create great discussion but it is obvious, not a single one of us has any clue to the real story.
Well for one side not. You have to believe they indeed told him he was adopted. I don’t believe him in this case. If he didn’t know(supposedly) then he is a bit slow like the movie implies. They obviously weren’t handling his money which to me shows intent.(not using him for monetary gains).
 

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"pretty sure" sounds like an opinion not based on fact but just being said to question a fact posted.
Your claiming players can't/ couldn't go to a college because someone was an alumni and influenced them to go there unless they are their guardians.
Sounds like a lot of HS players wouldn't have gone to the colleges people in their lives, but not family or guardians, steered them to if what you are saying is/was the case.
It happens. Hell IU got sanctioned for it. Both lawyers have already stated it. I’m just repeating what they said and it makes sense to many not just me.
 

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It happens. Hell IU got sanctioned for it. Both lawyers have already stated it. I’m just repeating what they said and it makes sense to many not just me.
please post links to what you're saying.
Schools do get sactioned for illegal recruiting, but for just advising a HS kid that you have influence over sounds far fetched to me.
HS coaches steering their players to the College they went to would be a NCAA infraction if what you are claiming is/was true.
 

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The paperwork doesn’t lie.
True, it will prove the Tuohy family were doing their best for Oher and he's a liar trying to shake the Tuohys down for more money than what he already is receiving
If the paperwork isn't there, that should prove Oher might be telling the truth about being cheated out of money and the Tuohys took advantage of him
 
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please post links to what you're saying.
Schools do get sactioned for illegal recruiting, but for just advising a HS kid that you have influence over sounds far fetched to me.
HS coaches steering their players to the College they went to would be a NCAA infraction if what you are claiming is/was true.
Not totally true. If the kid was living with a booster or coach. That’s the problem. Also, guardianship, school administrators etc. is classified differently than a parent or conservator. A conservator has the same or similar rights as a parent in this situation. I’d be whiling to bet that’s the reason the tuohys did the conservatorship instead of the other. To many things are lining up in their favor, sense wise.

 

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They couldn’t adopt him. He was an adult but they still had his best interest at heart(it seems). Looks like a case of the tuohys still tried and he didn’t listen. It’s looking like he’s out of money.
Why is this getting repeated? Adult adoption is legal in Tennessee and most states.
 

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Not totally true. If the kid was living with a booster or coach. That’s the problem. Also, guardianship, school administrators etc. is classified differently than a parent or conservator. A conservator has the same or similar rights as a parent in this situation. I’d be whiling to bet that’s the reason the tuohys did the conservatorship instead of the other. To many things are lining up in their favor, sense wise.

thank you, sounds like you have a good case stating being a legal guardian isn't enough and only being a parent or conservator will keep the NCAA from complaining about undue influence by a booster.
 

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It wasn’t back then. It got amended. Not sure when. I think 2008
Can't say if back then it was exactly the same as it was after being amended
( it was amended , but don't know which part or when, so 2008 will do as when it was.)
But can't say if the adoption law back when Oher turned 18 wasn't basically the same and what I posted about no problem adopting him wasn't true according to Tennessee adoption law at that time.
Being amended could be just me a minor change that didn't affect the ability to adopt an 18 year old easily
 
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thank you, sounds like you have a good case stating being a legal guardian isn't enough and only being a parent or conservator will keep the NCAA from complaining about undue influence by a booster.
I’m not an expert but the Tuohys don’t seem(to me) to be bad people. Michael doesn’t either. People do things they normally wouldn’t for money or being under pressure. The way these conservatorships work is they literally could have controlled everything and from the lawsuit it’s looking like they only helped early and left all the decisions up to him. We will see. Errr maybe we won’t.
 

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I’m not an expert but the Tuohys don’t seem(to me) to be bad people. Michael doesn’t either. People do things they normally wouldn’t for money or being under pressure. The way these conservatorships work is they literally could have controlled everything and from the lawsuit it’s looking like they only helped early and left all the decisions up to him. We will see. Errr maybe we won’t.
weagree on we will see.
I was in Oher's corner at first seeing the info being put out about this accusation.
Then when the Tuohys claimed they had paperwork showing they were paying Michael a fair share I tend to look on them as the injured party and he's lying about not reciving any of the money they recived off the movie and other funds coming in from the use of his name.

When the paperwork is made public or if the paperwork claim is false,
we'll see who is the liar and puts money over relationship.
 
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weagree on we will see.
I was in Oher's corner at first seeing the info being put out about this accusation.
Then when the Tuohys claimed they had paperwork showing they were paying Michael a fair share I tend to look on them as the injured party and he's lying about not reciving any of the money they recived off the movie and other funds coming in from the use of his name.

When the paperwork is made public or if the paperwork claim is false,
we'll see who is the liar and puts money over relationship.
Yeah. Supposedly he wouldn’t cash the checks(assuming they were small here). So they set up a trust in his name. He’s getting lots of attention at his new book signing. 😉
 

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Michael Lewis weighs in.


In an interview with The Washington Post, Lewis said that despite the movie’s success, no one involved in the book saw millions of dollars from the movie.

Lewis said that ultimately after agent fees and taxes, he and the Tuohy family received around $350,000 each from the profits of the movie. Lewis said the Tuohys planned to share the royalties among the family members, including Oher, but Oher began declining his royalty checks, Lewis said. Lewis said he believed the Tuohy family had deposited Oher’s share in a trust fund for Oher’s son.”


Lewis is known to be a pretty straight shooter.
 

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Michael Lewis weighs in.


In an interview with The Washington Post, Lewis said that despite the movie’s success, no one involved in the book saw millions of dollars from the movie.

Lewis said that ultimately after agent fees and taxes, he and the Tuohy family received around $350,000 each from the profits of the movie. Lewis said the Tuohys planned to share the royalties among the family members, including Oher, but Oher began declining his royalty checks, Lewis said. Lewis said he believed the Tuohy family had deposited Oher’s share in a trust fund for Oher’s son.”


Lewis is known to be a pretty straight shooter.
What was surprising to me is that Lewis is a childhood friend of Tuohy. This is just getting more fishy.
 
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Never mind. Read this. I won’t defend either side. They all sound like terrible people who found each other. Take them for all they are worth big Mike. 🤣

 
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I saw this. Kind of sad all around that the family is now airing this publicly. They movie/story was a real good feel good type of narrative but to see it end like this, squabbling over money, etc.......... just sad.

Hope it gets settled quickly and just disppears.
Agreed! But I take issue with your statement, "Kind of sad all around that the family is now airing this publicly". The first I heard of this lawsuit came from the Oher side of "the family". The more I am reading about it the more it seems like the Tuohy family did everything right in regards to how they treated Michael Oher both as a person and financially. I am getting more convicned everyday that Michael Oher is broke and needs the money. It sure is starting to sound like a shakedown. The floodgates are open and this is going to get very ugly. I feel bad for both sides, there was a better way to do this.
 

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The whole thing just seems fishy on both sides. A part of me understands the guardianship if they were not allowed to adopt him but he was going off to college and shortly after, making huge financial decisions.
What I don’t understand is why or if they may have told him he was adopted or why the guardianship lasted so long.
And which side is just straight up lying. Looks like this is one that has to play out before you can have an opinion at all.
It does create great discussion but it is obvious, not a single one of us has any clue to the real story.
And it's important to remember that a lot of people say questionable stuff in lawsuits, maybe sometimes in the hopes that fear of bad publicity will lead to a quick and quiet settlement.
 
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Hugh Freeze, Former High School Coach to Michael Oher, Weighs in on ‘Blind Side’ Dispute​

Auburn coach Hugh Freeze, who coached former NFL offensive lineman Michael Oher at Briarcrest Christian School in Memphis, has offered his thoughts on the public dispute between Oher and the Tuohy family after Oher alleged earlier this week that the Tuohys exploited his story for financial gain.

The Tuohys became Oher’s conservators while he was in high school, Oher alleges, and reaped financial gain on the success of the 2009 film The Blind Side, adapted from the ’06 book of the same name that chronicled Oher’s rise.

“I think it’s sad. I certainly don’t claim to understand all the ins and outs of adoption, conservatory, all of that. I know what I witnessed,” Freeze said Thursday, per The Athletic‘s David Ubben. “I witnessed a family that totally took in a young man and I think without that, there is no story.”



Oher filed a petition Monday in a Shelby County, Tenn., court, saying that Sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy coerced Oher into signing a document that granted them conservatorship after he turned 18 in 2004. Oher claims that the Tuohys received royalties from the film, while he had not gotten any of the proceeds.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...p&cvid=31dc60fb2f3c423fa0d3453271d8f556&ei=13
 

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This issue will come out looking in either Oher or the Tuohy family's favor,
based on the paperwork the Tuohy claim to have given Oher an equal share.
Wondering about that equal share being divided by whole family and not a 50-50 split.
But ,for now ,the issue is was Oher cheated or not and the paperwork will
prove he wasn't if it's what the Tuohys claim it containes.
If the paperwork is a lie, proves Oher is telling the truth .

As for 3rd parties like Freeze speaking out, we mist look at the source and decide if they are creditable or not
When Old Miss was in trouble with the NCAA some recruits said Freeze and other Ole Miss officials repeatedly lied to them during their recruitment about the severity of the pending charges. After the charges became public, these players sought to transfer to other schools; each requested and received a waiver .

One thing that came out of this is the Tuohy conservatorship is ending.
One thing about Oher's claim about binding his ability to make financial decisions to the conservatorship is the Tuohys said he made his OWN nfl dealings on his own and he picked his own agent to handle it.
If that's true, all of Oher's claims must be taken with a grain of salt and be proved true before just accepting them on his word
If the Tuohys were involved, the grain of salt goes for them.