Mine was told there was zero chance I would pay for Penn StateMy dopey son probably wont get in , have to settle for State Penn who seemingly admits everyone now
I exaggerated slightly - $88,938 on campus, $89,804 off
OT: My Son Is Accepted To Rutgers!!!
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The best is they always play this song in Germany during Oktoberfest.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! My ears! AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!
Which school? My daughter was accepted to Environmental and Biological Sciences today but was deferred by Arts and Sciences and Pharmacy. Not sure when she will hear from them.
They build such awesome cars and roadways and so forth. But then they'll drink Budweiser and listen to John Denver.
They're a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, to abuse Churchill's quote a bit.
End of February, with the Regular Decision applicants. At that point it will be accept, deny or waitlist.
She should update her SRAR with her mid year grades when they are available.
I’m no Penn State fan, but I am a college counselor. If they don’t get into RU- New Brunswick, there is zero (less than zero) chance of University Park. More than half of the admits at my large public high school are for alternative PSU campuses, and most NJ students don’t want to do that.My dopey son probably wont get in , have to settle for State Penn who seemingly admits everyone now
Where in NJ do you live? I came to Rutgers from Camden County, so it was "going away" for me.
That’s interesting because the metrics (SAT and GPA) are the same.
A lot of it it about how Penn State admits, and the specific ranges for specific schools within the university.
At PSU, students have one crack at UPark for Fall admission. So if a kid applies to business (the hardest way to get into UPark), and they’re like a 3.5 kid (or 3.8…) with a 1400, they’re getting admitted to a Commonwealth campus like Harrisburg. They’re not considered for an alternative major in UPark where they would have been admissible, like an Econ major in the liberal arts school. They can get considered for UPark summer if they checked the box, but that starts in July.
At Rutgers, that same kid likely received a decision to Rutgers Business today of a defer. BUT, since Rutgers lets them apply to up to 3 schools at the time of application, with that record, they have a good shot of getting an admit to Arts and Sciences today in New Brunswick.
There’s a LOT of strategy in knowing where you are applying, how they read…and most importantly, what your personal priorities are.
Same here! Since we’re out West she’s looking at all West coast schools rather than travel back east. If we were still in NJ I think Rutgers would have been top of the list though. She watches every game that we get on TV and was raised on Rutgers sports.Ours as well. I don’t think she will commit to Rutgers though
College admissions this year is absolutely crazy! Applications are up at many places and schools are getting more competitive. University of Washington had a record number of apps this year (over 62,000) and USC had 81,000. My daughter applied early action at a few school and was deferred at one and accepted at another which was ranked higher. Based solely on the school rankings would have expected the opposite but popularity of certain majors seem to be a factor for capacity, how good were the essays, etc.
Agree that if he gets into the honors program it would be hard to pass up. My wife’s friend who worked at Rutgers had her daughter accepted to the honors program at Rutgers Newark and it was a free ride. She didn’t get New Brunswick honors and would have had to pay room and board there. My daughter is waiting to hear on the honors college at Oregon. They offered her a nice merit scholarship with regular admission but the honors college would definitely provide more.
One things about test scores these days. Since at most schools they are optional only kids who have taken the SAT or ACT and have done really well bother to submit them. So it kind of makes the test averages look better than if everyone took them and submitted the scores to the school. GPA is probably more equal but that also might be a bit different in that some school might report weighted GPAs (extra points for AP or HS honors classes) vs unweighted.
We had the opportunity of a college coaching service through my work and they did talk a lot about your choice of major as it could impact your admission chances. Talked about choosing a less popular or obvious major rather than biology if you ultimately want to go to Med school for example, since you can still take the required classes,
Our daughters HS has a system to request transcripts, etc. and you can also see how many kids from the HS applied to each college. If you look at the numbers from the past few years there was a drop in 2021 and 2022 across most schools in applications and an explosion this year. It might have been kids taking gap years due to Covid closures and now the numbers are really rebounding. Also schools making pushes for more applicants, esp. out of state in some instances to drive up numbers which help their ranking and increase revenue with out of state tuition. We’ve heard back from the early action schools but the others won’t make a decision until beginning of March and through the end of the month. My daughter applied to a number of UC schools and they are March. UCLA (huge long shot) is end of March since they got about 150,000 applications.
Slightly more expensive than Harvard. The difference is in the cost if housing. I guess Miami must have great dorms.
And that's before Harvard's generous financial aid.
I certainly respect your knowledge but everything Ive read and my anecdotal experience with my sons friends tells me otherwise.
Ok, but my data from 100 apps a year to PSU and 250+ to Rutgers says otherwise, and it’s directly from the internal reporting sites of both schools.
It’s largely because of what I posted in my later post with the difference in the way the two schools admit.I’ll also say that, of our 50 applicants accepted to commonwealth campuses last year, many just told people they were accepted to Penn State (sans the detail about which campus). Naviance/SCOIR also doesn’t necessarily have that information entered accurately, unless there’s a staff member at the school who is manually switching students to other campuses. Otherwise, students just report it as an accept to PSU-UP.
I think the issue is your original statement that one have no chance getting into PSU-UP if rejected by RU. The two schools seems very similar on applicants. The cuspy kids have equal chances getting rejected or accepted by both schools.Ok, but my data from 100 apps a year to PSU and 250+ to Rutgers says otherwise, and it’s directly from the internal reporting sites of both schools.
I’ll also say that, of our 50 applicants accepted to commonwealth campuses last year, many just told people they were accepted to Penn State (sans the detail about which campus). Naviance/SCOIR also doesn’t necessarily have that information entered accurately, unless there’s a staff member at the school who is manually switching students to other campuses. Otherwise, students just report it as an accept to PSU-UP.
Penn St is in terrible financial condition and lowered its standards significantly the past few years. Its admit rates are a joke. It is a main reason that it has plummeted in the rankings. There is much written about it.
My daughter was admitted to RU this week and has been admitted to her other options (so far), including an honors college mentioned above. Rutgers doesn’t release its honors college selection for another few months.
My daughter was admitted to RU this week and has been admitted to her other options (so far), including an honors college mentioned above. Rutgers doesn’t release its honors college selection for another few months.
But they don’t, because public institutions admit at different rates, and admit different stats for in state vs out of state. That’s why I love schools like Georgia Tech, who share specific stats on in state vs out of state. And I’m not saying the PSU and RU disparities for in state/out of state are as wide as they are at GTech, UVA, Mich, Cal, Texas, UW, etc…they’re not, but there’s still a difference.
That said, I’m going to opt out of further conversation, because I can’t share more without sharing more than I should about my students and my position on a message board.
Mine too - was sweating it out as RU was much slower than usual this year he did not want to be the only family member to not get in (mom, dad, big brother and grandpa are all scarlet knights). Unfortunately it looks like he’s going to buck the trend and is headed to Purdue or Michigan State. At least he’s staying in the B1G.
This is worse. As Aaron Young said when he flipped from Mich St to Rutgers, "I hated seeing Rutgers on the other sideline"
It’s hard to have a family member who went to a different big ten school.. my almost 90 year old mother went to Michigan and she literally sh*t talks me every single time they play football or basketball
I’m happy that his other acceptances are in schools that we don’t play - just in case he makes the wrong decision!
Ok, but my data from 100 apps a year to PSU and 250+ to Rutgers says otherwise, and it’s directly from the internal reporting sites of both schools.
I’ll also say that, of our 50 applicants accepted to commonwealth campuses last year, many just told people they were accepted to Penn State (sans the detail about which campus). Naviance/SCOIR also doesn’t necessarily have that information entered accurately, unless there’s a staff member at the school who is manually switching students to other campuses. Otherwise, students just report it as an accept to PSU-UP.
I think a lot of people just look at the fact that RU's average SAT is about 100 points higher and the average GPA at RU is 3.73 vs 3.5.
RU's student quality is just better. Thus why we shot past them in USNWR.
Perhaps it's harder for NJ students to get in there but that seems more like a quirk and not a function of academics.
RU is a better school than both so it's not clear to me why someone would spend more on OOS tuition. If you live in IN or MI perhaps it's a different story.
I had a similar situation. In HS I wanted to go to NYU but my parents couldn't have afforded it. Basically finances made it come down to RU or TCNJ and RU was the absolute 100% right choice for me. Lived in the city for grad school and that was enough.
To this very day I have season tix and probably at least half if not more of my friends are connected to RU.
A lot of people don't understand that RU is not an "easy " school academically. The business school is difficult and forget the sciences and engineering. What is annoying is people using RU as a back up and the resulting consequences of those really wanting RU and being wait listed or not admitted.
all my kids and grand children got into PSU .Only one of eight went to PSU and the rest RU. I hated that drive on route 80, boy it sucks and I always felt the NJ people stuck together at PSU anyway and why not just go to RU, the PA people were very provincial . By the way don't talk about the RU screw ,PSU sucked for freshmen housing etc
A friend of my son was accepted to Mich, UNC and Miami yesterday - got a full ride to Miami and no money from Mich or UNC.
It will be tough a few times a year that is for sure but Purdue and MSU are tolerable the rest of the year.It’s hard to have a family member who went to a different big ten school.. my almost 90 year old mother went to Michigan and she literally sh*t talks me every single time they play football or basketball
I’m happy that his other acceptances are in schools that we don’t play - just in case he makes the wrong decision!
OOS Purdue costs about 4k more than RU in state. He got money from MSU. His major is Food Science - Purdue and MSU have very strong Food Science programs - he hates the RU campus concept- he wants to explore other parts of the country and probably is enticed by doing something different than the rest of his family. I feel really good about his decision.
Proud? Proud? What’s this proud nonsense?
When my kids went through all that acceptance crap, I was pissed off at myself for not having successfully sold them before I‘d have to start paying for college. Screw proud. I never shoulda let their mom talk me out of it.
Congrats to all who have kids accepted to RU. My son was also accepted yesterday. Similar to OP, he was brought up with RU...going to football games since the year he was born...season tickets to FB his whole life and BB for several years. He bleeds scarlet. BUT...there's a good chance he will choose another school. The southeast is so enticing and there are so many good schools. I will be a little sad if he doesn't choose RU, but also really happy for him where ever he chooses. Good luck to everyone on admissions and, more importantly, their decisions.