Your research is from far right groups like the crazed Falun Gong cult, which you somehow don't think have a bias. You and your sources are a joke. You're living in Right Wing Cuckoo Land pushing ideas that normal people can see are idiotic.I post more reasearch links than anybody here.
You dont post facts at all - most of the LWFP (Left Wing Fudge Pack) here is that way.
Resentment is the losers anger and thats all most of the put-down artists have
Reguritiating CDC opinions is for muggles since they mangle there own pronouncements in time.
CDC is now promoting "equity" for guys pretending they can breastfeed - excuse me "chestfeed".
Many of the experts are as bizzare as anything in history
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You're a bright guy, Ashokan. Why do you persist in posting things that are misleading and taken out of context? You know full well what Fauci and the CDC were saying, and when and why they were saying it. What do you gain from this?I was for masks before the CDC and Surgeon Genersal advised them (watched Chris Martensen on "inoculum" )
Even Fauci was telling people not to bother with masks (and he said the virus wouldn't be a big problem in US)
"If you look at the masks that you buy in a drug store, the leakage around that doesn't really do much to protect you," he said. "People start saying, 'Should I start wearing a mask?' Now, in the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask."
Fauci caught telling a friend in February masks dont work
Certainly the masks that 99% of people were wearing were a waste of time and effort...all for show to give good feels
Science, like I have said, relies on the latest available information they find. Sometimes the latest findings make what was known before outdated and science moves on from using that.
Conspiracy theorist act like what they believe is never wrong, so refuse to consider the facts that prove them wrong
They just go on sprouting, for all to hear, the same misinformation over and over ignoring the truth
>Fauci said his understanding changed as more information became available about asymptomatic transmission of the virus and the effectiveness of masks outside of hospitals.
“If we realized all of those things back then, of course, you’re asking the question would you have done something different if you knew what you know now, of course people would have done that. It’s so obvious,<
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...g-context-claim-mask-emails-fauci/7531267002/
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I get my takes from the honest experts and not burecrats and politicans.
I'm not a Dem. or a Rep. and I spent 12 years sick where I had to fight the medical matrix every step of the way.
You're smarter than me but I know you took part in civil rights back in the day and are still a party guy.
Today's Dems are not the same - they wreck everything they touch on purpose, and they are burying black people under millions of illegals while getting thousands killed (Ukraine) along the way to global war.
Lots of Ds see it too but dont always say it.
Honest Ds/Rs are both alienated by the party hive burying the people.
Trump was a fool over Warp Speed (he gets connned by med degrees like most) and the Ds loved the crisis.
Unvaccinated were being singled out and defamed as "the real danger" and that vicious narrative exploded .
Its clear the globe is having excess deaths in many places ( unvaccinated areas of Arfica avoid deaths)
Medical associations, insurance groups et al report on problems that just get filed under "conspiracy" but most people are still untrusting of them.
I already mentioned UK heart group describing 500 extra cardiovascular deaths a week.
Top vaccinologist ( https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/616004c52e87ed08692f5692/61f409508dc1069610242e5a_2022 detailed CV- G. VANDEN BOSSCHE.pdf )
it doesnt matter anyhow because by the time winter 2022 came they were openly saying the masks people wore didnt do anything and yet a charade at the rac
I get my takes from the honest experts and not burecrats and politicans.
I'm not a Dem. or a Rep. and I spent 12 years sick where I had to fight the medical matrix every step of the way.
You're smarter than me but I know you took part in civil rights back in the day and are still a party guy.
Today's Dems are not the same - they wreck everything they touch on purpose, and they are burying black people under millions of illegals while getting thousands killed (Ukraine) along the way to global war.
Lots of Ds see it too but dont always say it.
Honest Ds/Rs are both alienated by the party hive burying the people.
Trump was a fool over Warp Speed (he gets connned by med degrees like most) and the Ds loved the crisis.
Unvaccinated were being singled out and defamed as "the real danger" and that vicious narrative exploded .
Its clear the globe is having excess deaths in many places ( unvaccinated areas of Arfica avoid deaths)
Medical associations, insurance groups et al report on problems that just get filed under "conspiracy" but most people are still untrusting of them.
I already mentioned UK heart group describing 500 extra cardiovascular deaths a week.
Top vaccinologist ( https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/616004c52e87ed08692f5692/61f409508dc1069610242e5a_2022 detailed CV- G. VANDEN BOSSCHE.pdf )
Your "honest expert" list is RFK, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Geert vanden Bossche, and Retsef Levi?! Gabbard is simply a pol looking for a niche, so we can excuse that one, but the other three have been so roundly discredited, it's hardly worth talking about them. So they are "experts" and the Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, CDC, Lancet, JAMA, and on and on, are all politicians and hacks? Do you ever wonder about this? Fundamentally, the entire medical establishment is on the take?
I am indeed an old civil rights guy, and they are plenty of whack jobs on the left and positions I either disagree with or think are not really worth pursuing. No question there. But the bulk of the party are good folks whose hearts are in the right place. Sadly, there are only a small handful on the right who can make that claim anymore. The Dirksens, Rockefellers, Ogilivies, Fords, Doles, are few and far between in the R party these days. They have been replaced by Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, McConnell, Santos, Cruz, Rubio, Boebert, Greene, and the list depressingly goes on forever. Asa Hutchinson and Will Hurd seem reasonable, although I don't know much about Hurd. But when Chris Christie is the voice of rationality in the Republican party, you know that something is seriously amiss.
Really. RFK, Jr.? Do you think vaxxes cause autism?
yet you bring up the statement time after time.
It might not matter to some, but seems like a big deal to you until the whole story comes our
Then it's a no big deal, until the next time you bring it up.
Jun 11, 2021
>The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.<https://www.ama-assn.org/press-cent...-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
masks certainly matter to you as your ilk wanted to make sure everyone wore them despite it not mattering..why is that
What cherry picking. Like me naming The Squad, Sanders and Warren as the faces of the Democratic Party. Yes, Trump has to be there but you left off a lot of solid people. And no
mention of Bush 41?
That's just stupid, you people need to get off the high pedestal you all put yourselves on and look in the mirror.
It's amazing how these guys think their "experts" don't have an agenda and are pure of heart.
Yeah…because the Koch’s stand to lose very little from the rapid decarbonization needed to avoid a climate disaster.
Now show us a survey of the percentage of landscapers that have been fully vaccinated.
Again no self awareness
Lol you've got nothing ever. I suggest you take up golf.
Yes, who forget when ANY Dem said COVID didn't affect Jews and African Americans...or said inject disinfectant...or lied and lied and lied about election results causing an insurrection.
The only "moderate" Republicans are people with extremely right wing view points like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney who admit Trump lost- and still get death threats from radical Republican terrorists for that one deviation.
Why pay when when we can see he started multiple threads saying Oz would win LMAO
Imagine being someone who shares Gateway Pundit links and then making that comment.
Oh right you see him in the mirror.
You simp for every single politician he named.
Thanks for reminding me why I should keep you on ignore. Pip pip.
If there’s so much brilliance over there, not sure why a deep thinker like RubNTug would even waste his precious time posting in here.
Those guys are putting in the work, identifying who is indoctrinating who, protecting our children from figuring out that some dudes like dudes, and who the 8 million dead people who voted in 2020 were. Serious stuff.
Better safe then sorry .
Your ilk spread misinformation about mask wearing or just plain didn't understand the idea of caring for other's safety over being a little inconvenienced.
a quick google found this bit of info:
>They Prevent Presymptomatic Spread, Preventing Others From Getting Sick. In other words, you could be carrying the virus in your body before you get any symptoms of it (aka presymptomatic)—or you may have the virus but never get symptoms, in which case, you would be asymptomatic.<
( a common misconception is/was masks protect one from breathing in the virus droplets, that was wrong.
They, if worn properly are worn to keep the wearer from spreading the virus.
Some masks were not the best, but they did help keep the person wearing a mask from breating virus droplets out)
GOOGLING FOUND THIS AS WELL.
>Dr. Jessica Justman, an associate professor of medicine in epidemiology at Columbia Mailman School of Public Health, told ABC News. "It's looking at interventions that tried to promote the use of different kinds of protective equipment, such as masks, and the outcomes are all going to depend on how well people actually adhere to the particular type of protective equipment."
"Masks work if you wear them," Justman said. "But if you wear them very imperfectly, if you wear them in a way where they are only loosely fitting on your face and you take them off, let's say in a crowded restaurant to eat a meal, you can't then conclude when you get COVID that the mask didn't protect you because if you don't wear the mask properly, you're not going to get the full protection."<
Whine all you want, but your whines don't refute the facts.
It's just that you refuse to accept the facts that causes your constant whining about wearing masks
Chris Christie? Brian Kemp? Chris Sununu? Glen Youngkin? Larry Hogan? Charlie Baker? Rob Portman? Mitch Daniels? Mike Pentz?
Then those who don't say the election was stoen. Tim Scott. Nikki Haley.
LOL. Still no idea why you pay to get your azz kicked every day on the CE.
Good, the one place in life you can convince yourself that you’re winning. Go back over there
Thanks for saving me the typing. It's mind boggling that there are people who will believe RFK Jr., Joe Rogan, Dr. Drew and a host of other non-experts over actual experts in the medical and public health communities. People don't generally do seek out "uncredentialed alternative experts" with cancer treatments, hurricanes, air traffic control, food safey or a host of other heavily scientific topics with associated risks, but they lap this crap up from talk show hosts and stupid memes they see all over the internet. It's clear from this thread and social media, in general, though, that there is some sort of mass delusion in operation here with regard to COVID science.
Barack Obama, Hakeem Jeffries, Cory Booker, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Gretchen Whitmer, John Kerry, Tammy Duckworth, Tim Caine, Patrick Kennedy, Deval Patrick, Sherrod Brown, Gabby Giffords, Steve Bullock ….this is an easier list for me.
Half the people on your list are political garbage and hypocrites beyond words. But nice try. LOL!
Lucky for me I dont have kids and never had to get too deep into children's jabs. It does seem to me thoughh that there are way too many on the schedule. Newborns get jabs 24 hrs after birth for Hepetitis B seems crazy. That disease is tied mostly to sodomy and drug habits. I would deffo call that a money grab at babies expense. People's immune systems are very powerful and can go wrong in strange ways. I have experience with that.
RFK Jr said that when he was a kid he didn't even know what autism was, and that now CDC says 1 in 32 kids end-up with the diagnosis. Yeah something is happening there. People often cite military as an example of jab saftey but military members get 2x the rate of ALS.
I mention Tulsi and RFK because they both got into presidential politics so we aren't talking a few mayors in the cornfields. Tulsi took Kamala Harris out in a few minutes of first debate in 2020. She highhlighted her record of sending black people to jail. Two days later she was out of race. Tulsi was actually the best candidate but she's wasn't owned by anyone (some cons distrust her for WEF since she was a WEF "young leader" pick years ago). She spent 20 years in Army and Harris just couldn't begin to match her character (which current radical Dems avoid).
RFK Jr is an actual liberal pre Gramscian. I'm aware of him more because he lived in my area and I knew his river work. The river was dirty and RFK was legit - not one of the ninnies saying 1.2 billion fish a year were dying (and you could never see one lol). His wife killed herself in Bedford around 2012 and RFK wrestled with that and a drinking problem. He changed from those things and is open about them. Even family gives him a hard time but he's a more real person for his experiences and his common sense is still intact. His father was always the best Kennedy imo (I like JFK Jr too)
Christie finished his NJ term off with massive crash in pols (20s). He did GOP keynote in 2012 and then refused to campaign for Romney. CC got Trump to hire Wray and nobody in GOP is going to really vote for him. A lot of people run for the money,
Geert vanden Bossche is a top guy who worked for Gates and he's a big jabber. For Geert to go against so many of his employers is notable. Retsef Levi is an MIT guy and you seem to like MIT. All these people get jacked-up going against the hive - its a career killer when it shouldn't be.
Another high character academic is Dr. Harvey Risch, Professor Emeritus of Epidemiology in the Department of Epidemiology and Public Health at Yale. Currently he's saying the new variant being hyped is basically a nothing-burger but the vaxxed people are getting hit harder (as Geert predicted).
https://americasvoice.news/the-new-covid-variant-is-uncomfortable-but-not-life-threatening/
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BIGRUBIGREDCOMMIE crawl back to hole from which you came from.
This Board doesn’t need irrational right wing lunatics who spew lies,hatred, and misinformation.
Back to my Ignorance list. See ya.
The number of lies and deliberate misinformation RFK Jr has spread are simply too many to list. He is a truly sad case. Hard to figure where he is coming from, but I'm pretty sure no one is putting microchips in people as he claims, among many, many other falsehoods.
I understand why people like Gabbard as she has a long military career and quick on her feet, but she is a classic true-believing flip-flopper. Whatever she thinks today is the absolute truth, but it often doesn't mesh with what she previously thought (see views on LGBT community, for example). Jennifer Rubin and Arianna Huffington are great examples of people going the other way. Gabbard may go far, but she might also change 180 degrees from her current positions.
No Christie fan here, but I do enjoy how he is turning his acid tongue on the Donald.
Vanden Bossche's work has been debunked time and again, and Levi is in a business school. Risch's colleagues at Yale have denounced him.
The question remains: why pick these very few people as opposed to tens of thousands of scholars who think otherwise? It seems they have one thing in common, and that is you agree with them. I like to go with the preponderance of expert opinion even when it does not align with my political views. And especially when that preponderance is overwhelming as it is here.
As to Hep B, it's entirely possible to be spread to newborns if moms are infected. This vaccine regimen has reduced Hep B prevalence. And the research on the military and ALS shows that the increased risk does not consistently show up and based on less than great research (but it is difficult to study), and a number of studies seem to implicate ingestion of heavy metals from ammunition usage and the like. Military folks are different from general population in a host of ways. Horrible disease.
I’ve read your posts for years.
You are simply a Democrat/regime zealot.
Nothing less, nothing more.
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